Freezing Drizzle Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 Current - the 32 F isotherm line roughly runs from western Passaic County westward to the Poconos. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allgame830 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 4 minutes ago, Prue11 said: Hrrr took a step back Post with a map, so annoying 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blizzardo Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 1 minute ago, Prue11 said: Places will bust low and places will bust high. Get under the right band and you’ll do good Deformation zones will see 36+ with outside it half the amount. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brasiluvsnow Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 1 minute ago, BoulderWX said: Anyone have a good national or regional radar https://radar.weather.gov/region/northeast/standard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prue11 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 5 minutes ago, Blizzardo said: Deformation zones will see 36+ with outside it half the amount. 36 is a stretch. I don’t believe these big totals are as widespread as forecasted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 6 minutes ago, allgame830 said: Post with a map, so annoying a bit east which affects western sections Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kat5hurricane Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 Some of the models have cut back a bit but it's noise at this point, this is still a really big storm with 12-20 areawide. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoulderWX Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 4 minutes ago, Brian5671 said: a bit east which affects western sections I’m one of those western sections in this storm and I’d take that and run! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatamy Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 47 minutes ago, Tatamy said: It’s an interesting forecast where I am near the Delaware River with only the short term Mesos calling for big snows here (12-18”) whereas the globals and some mesos are calling for 8-12”. The IVT will be the key out here for me and other NW areas. The cutoff will be right through my general area I believe. 12z HRRR concurs with the Delaware River cutoff for the big snows. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnoSki14 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 6 minutes ago, Brian5671 said: a bit east which affects western sections Again ratios for a good 6-8hrs will likely be higher than 10:1 I'm playing it conservative but trust the NWS too. This is one instance where an overperformance wouldn't surprise me. How often do we see a 970mb low inside the BM. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blizzardo Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 5 minutes ago, Prue11 said: 36 is a stretch. I don’t believe these big totals are as widespread as forecasted Deformation zones are not widespread. Very easy to get 36 in a powerhouse like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACRUS Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 NYC (Central Park) Snowstorms (Top 40 like the old radio countdowns) we may have a new smash hit coming in the top 15 Largest → Smallest Jan 22–24, 2016 – 27.5" Feb 11–12, 2006 – 26.9" Dec 26–27, 1947 – 26.4" Feb 25–27, 2010 – 20.9" Jan 7–8, 1996 – 20.2" Dec 26–27, 2010 – 20.0" Feb 16–17, 2003 – 19.8" Jan 26–27, 2011 – 19.0" Mar 7–8, 1941 – 18.1" Feb 5–7, 1978 – 17.7" Feb 11–12, 1983 – 17.6" Feb 3–4, 1961 – 17.4" Jan 31–Feb 3, 2021 – 17.4" Dec 19–20, 1948 – 16.0" Feb 9–10, 1969 – 15.3" Dec 11–12, 1960 – 15.2" Mar 3–4, 1960 – 14.5" Dec 5–7, 2003 – 14.0" Jan 22–23, 2005 – 13.8" Dec 21–22, 1959 – 13.7" Jan 19–20, 1978 – 13.6" Jan 23–24, 1935 – 13.0" Feb 11, 1994 – 12.8" Feb 19, 1979 – 12.7" Jan 12–13, 1964 – 12.5" Feb 7, 1967 – 12.5" Feb 13–14, 2014 – 12.5" Dec 30, 2000 – 12.0" Mar 20–21, 1958 – 11.8" Mar 18–19, 1956 – 11.6" Jan 21–22, 2014 – 11.5" Feb 8–9, 2013 – 11.4" Jan 25–26, 2026 – 11.4" Dec 26, 1933 – 11.2" Dec 19–20, 2009 – 10.9" Feb 4, 1995 – 10.8" Feb 20–21, 1947 – 10.7" Feb 16–17, 1996 – 10.7" Mar 13–14, 1993 – 10.6" Feb 11, 1933 – 10.0" Feb 10, 2010 – 10.0" 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North and West Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 Here are my thoughts….i’m going with the RGEM. RGEM all the way. It’s been the most consistent for days and hasn’t budged. Great model. Makes the most sense. I think the NAM is about to go down in an epic flaming dumpster fire. It’s going to have its hugest bust ever. GFS has been downgrading amounts since Friday evening. Ride the RGEM 6z RGEM: https://www.pivotalweather.com/model.php?m=rdps&p=sn10_acc-imp&rh=2026022206&fh=48&r=us_ne&dpdt=&mc=&pwplus=1Someone could drop a million dollars in your lap and you would be concerned about currency devaluation.. 18 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACRUS Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 2 minutes ago, kat5hurricane said: Some of the models have cut back a bit but it's really noise at this point, this is still a really big storm with 12-20 areawide. Deformation banding will gift some with huge totals and rob others - always the case its not such a uniform distribution as the globals and other models show. QPF in general will be 1-1.4 aread wide ( 8-14 or so) and under those heaviest bands/banding up to and exceeding 2-2.5 LE and that's where the >18-24 inches totals in those areas the target has been depicted in the Ocean - Monmouth cty and LI/SNE areas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 5 minutes ago, kat5hurricane said: Some of the models have cut back a bit but it's noise at this point, this is still a really big storm with 12-20 areawide. coming more into reality-some of the GFS/NAM totals are likely over done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mail Man Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 1 minute ago, Brian5671 said: coming more into reality-some of the GFS/NAM totals are likely over done I agree even though I wish it was true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACRUS Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 I would be riding the radar / obs and as far as guidance: From past storms and other general feedback Weighting (rule of thumb inside 6 hours): HREF + HRRR (top tier) → RAP (thermals/p-type) → NAM 3km (structure/gradients) 6 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jt17 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 coming more into reality-some of the GFS/NAM totals are likely over doneAt 9z tmr morning RAP has 13 inches vs 9 for HRRR. Easy to get caught up in every model run, but a 970 low just spinning in the same perfect spot for while is going to go nuts. . 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeatherGeek2025 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 19 minutes ago, allgame830 said: Post with a map, so annoying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnoSki14 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 1 minute ago, Brian5671 said: coming more into reality-some of the GFS/NAM totals are likely over done We need to keep in mind this isn't a gulf Miller A that is able to pull in enormous amounts of moisture like a 16 or 96. The fact we're even talking about 2 feet totals nearby is pretty crazy. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psv88 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 Snowing back home in Commack. 34. 70 here in Miami 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Star Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 24 minutes ago, Blizzardo said: Deformation zones will see 36+ with outside it half the amount. What will cause the deformation zones in this setup? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 4 minutes ago, SnoSki14 said: We need to keep in mind this isn't a gulf Miller A that is able to pull in enormous amounts of moisture like a 16 or 96. The fact we're even talking about 2 feet totals nearby is pretty crazy. it's the stall/capture that allows that to happen.... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoulderWX Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 10 minutes ago, North and West said: Someone could drop a million dollars in your lap and you would be concerned about currency devaluation. . One of the best comments in the entire thread. Literally LOLd 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Picard Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 Western parts of the area aren't far from of a 4-6 inch snowstorm if she were to wobble a bit further east, so it's really a nowcasting, watch the radar time. I am confident some areas will get 18+ and really jackpot, and it will be interesting to overlay actuals with the models when all is said and done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Jims Videos Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 Tide predictions up a half foot since yesterday. Manasquan now touching major. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blizzardo Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 4 minutes ago, Dark Star said: What will cause the deformation zones in this setup? I'm not that knowledgeable enough to know what will cause them in this particular setup except if there is frontogenesis. And I don't think they can be predicted where they setup shop until it happens. Maybe a pro can explain better 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 8 minutes ago, psv88 said: Snowing back home in Commack. 34. 70 here in Miami That really sucks that you're not up here for this. I'd be pissed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPcantmeasuresnow Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 20 minutes ago, SACRUS said: NYC (Central Park) Snowstorms (Top 40 like the old radio countdowns) we may have a new smash hit coming in the top 15 Largest → Smallest Jan 22–24, 2016 – 27.5" Feb 11–12, 2006 – 26.9" Dec 26–27, 1947 – 26.4" Feb 25–27, 2010 – 20.9" Jan 7–8, 1996 – 20.2" Dec 26–27, 2010 – 20.0" Feb 16–17, 2003 – 19.8" Jan 26–27, 2011 – 19.0" Mar 7–8, 1941 – 18.1" Feb 5–7, 1978 – 17.7" Feb 11–12, 1983 – 17.6" Feb 3–4, 1961 – 17.4" Jan 31–Feb 3, 2021 – 17.4" Dec 19–20, 1948 – 16.0" Feb 9–10, 1969 – 15.3" Dec 11–12, 1960 – 15.2" Mar 3–4, 1960 – 14.5" Dec 5–7, 2003 – 14.0" Jan 22–23, 2005 – 13.8" Dec 21–22, 1959 – 13.7" Jan 19–20, 1978 – 13.6" Jan 23–24, 1935 – 13.0" Feb 11, 1994 – 12.8" Feb 19, 1979 – 12.7" Jan 12–13, 1964 – 12.5" Feb 7, 1967 – 12.5" Feb 13–14, 2014 – 12.5" Dec 30, 2000 – 12.0" Mar 20–21, 1958 – 11.8" Mar 18–19, 1956 – 11.6" Jan 21–22, 2014 – 11.5" Feb 8–9, 2013 – 11.4" Jan 25–26, 2026 – 11.4" Dec 26, 1933 – 11.2" Dec 19–20, 2009 – 10.9" Feb 4, 1995 – 10.8" Feb 20–21, 1947 – 10.7" Feb 16–17, 1996 – 10.7" Mar 13–14, 1993 – 10.6" Feb 11, 1933 – 10.0" Feb 10, 2010 – 10.0" There's actually 68, 10 inch or greater snowstorms in NYC since 1870. Did you cut off after a certain date? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJW014 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 4 minutes ago, Big Jims Videos said: Tide predictions up a half foot since yesterday. Manasquan now touching major. We're very lucky it's not a new/full moon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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