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  1. Can't give it up yet, not until April 15. I need one more 6 inch snow and I'm good, not likely right now but it would make the summer much more palatable.
  2. UPDATED - March 28, 2017 Below I tracked the daily progress of how quickly the 21 inch snow pack that stood at the end of the evening of Tuesday March 14th would stand up to the mid to late March sun. I picked a flat spot that has no sun until the afternoon. With no additional measurable snow after the 14th it took 15 days to reduce the 21 inch snow cover to less than an inch over less than 50% of the landscape. It was a flawed study in many respects but I did find it more interesting than watching paint dry but not by a wide margin. I noted several things during the period as noted below. The day of the greatest loss in depth was Tuesday the 21st when the high hit 56 and the next days morning low was 29. 3.5 inches of snow was lost during that 24 hour period. It was the warmest day during the period so perfectly understandable. From 10 pm Tuesday night the 14th, to 8 am Wednesday morning the 15th with temperatures in the teens and snow showers throughout the night the snow compressed and settled overnight from 21.0 to 19.5 inches. It may have been even a little more as the snow showers most likely added a few tenths of an inch overnight but like the conservancy I did not add that to my snow totals. The least amount of snow depth lost on a day when there was no additional snow was on Wednesday the 22nd when the high hit only 29 but with sun and high winds most of the day and the next morning low of 10 only 0.7 inches of depth was lost that day, from 7.5 to 6.8 inches. Also of note the day after the storm on the 15th, when the high only reached 24 and there was virtually no sun during the day and scattered snow showers throughout the day with the next days morning low of 20 the snow depth decreased from 19.5 to 18.8 inches a similar 0.7 inch loss as was seen on the 22nd. Since snow showers may have also added several tenths of an inch during the day most likely the loss that day was due more to additional compression and settling than melting. On Saturday the 18th with clouds and snow showers most of the day and a high of 35 and a Sunday morning low of 23 the depth only went down 0.1 inches from 15.2 to 15.1. I was gone during most of the day and evening so I can only assume the snow showers during the afternoon added several tenths of an inch to the snowpack even though nothing stuck on paved surfaces. The day by day progress I ended the evening on Tuesday the 14th with a high of 26 that day with a snow pack of 21 inches. By Wednesday (15th) morning, with an overnight low of 17, the compression had brought it down to 19.5 inches. With the high of 24 on Wednesday (15th), little sun and snow showers throughout the day and a Thursday morning low of 20, the snow pack Thursday (16th) morning, probably due more to compression than anything is 18.8 inches. After a high of 35 Thursday (16th) and a Friday morning low of 11, the snow pack Friday (17th) morning is 17.5 inches. After a high of 45 Friday (17th) and a Saturday morning low of 10, the snow pack Saturday (18th) morning is 15.2 inches. After a high of 35 Saturday (18th) with clouds and snow showers most of the day and a Sunday morning low of 23, Sunday (19th) morning is 15.1 inches. After a high of 44 Sunday (19th) with sun most of the day and a Monday morning low of 16, the snow pack Monday (20th) morning is 12.6 inches. After a high of 49 Monday (20th) with sun most of the day and a Tuesday morning low of 32, the snow pack Tuesday (21st) morning is 11.0 inches. After a high of 56 Tuesday (21st) with sun most of the day and a Wednesday morning low of 29, the snow pack Wednesday (22nd) morning is 7.5 inches. After an afternoon high of 29 Wednesday (22nd) with sun and high winds most of the day and an impressive Thursday morning low of 10, the snow pack Thursday (23rd) morning is 6.8 inches. After an afternoon high of 41 Thursday (23rd) with sun most of the day and a Friday morning low of 21, the snow pack Friday (24th) morning is 6.0 inches. After an afternoon high of 47 Friday (24th) with clouds most of the day and a little rain and a Saturday morning low of 33, the snow pack Saturday (25th) morning is down to 4.7 inches. After an afternoon high of 42 Saturday (25th) with clouds and some drizzle and light rain most of the day and a Sunday morning low of 31, the snow pack Sunday (26th) morning is down to 3.3 inches. After an afternoon high of only 36 Sunday (26th) with clouds and and light rain most of the day and a Monday morning low of 33, the snow pack Monday (27th) morning is down to 2.5 inches. After an afternoon high of 46 Monday (27th) with clouds and and light rain at times through the day and a Tuesday morning low of 36, the snow pack Tuesday (28th) morning is down to 1.2 inches and will end the 18 consecutive days of snow pack for the month after today and 85 days for the season. Yesterday 1.3 inches in snow depth was lost, with the depth now at 1.2 inches in the flat areas that receive 1/2 sun and 1/2 shade and about 50% total coverage the winter barring any April snows will end with 85 days of snow cover, and 18 consecutive days this March.
  3. Of course it would, but years ago they didn't have the technology for that, now it would be simple. Of course 30 year averages and comparatives would all be thrown upside down.
  4. Excellent point. For that reason alone snow should never be referred to as dirty, or in any other negative way for that matter.
  5. After an afternoon high of 42 Saturday (25th) with clouds and some drizzle and light rain most of the day and a Sunday morning low of 31, the snow pack Sunday (26th) morning is down to 3.3 inches. Yesterday 1.4 inches in snow depth was lost. 83 days of snow cover this winter and counting, and 16 consecutive days this March. To be continued tomorrow. Below is the snow cover of 1 inch or more so far this season. Despite a top ten warmest December through February it stands at 83 days and counting this season. ..............Eastern Orange County Winter 2016/17 ................Days with snowpack and total snow .........................................Consecutive......Snowfall Begin date........End Date.....Days 1" cover....during period 20-Nov-16.......26-Nov-16.........6...................4.0 05-Dec-16.......26-Dec-16........21..................9.6 29-Dec-16.......31-Dec-16..........2..................1.7 06-Jan-17........12-Jan-17..........6..................2.7 14-Jan-17........16-Jan-17..........2..................1.0 23-Jan-17........22-Feb-17.........30................26.0 10-Mar-17........26-Mar-17.........16................25.7 ...............................Totals......83................70.7
  6. 36 now. Didn't expect this.
  7. The average high in NNJ in mid April is 60, with the average low about 40, to me that's not settled in warm yet, by mid May when the average high hits 70 that's to my thinking when you can count on the warmth. It's just semantics.
  8. Temp has dropped 4 degrees in the last hour here from a chilly 42, to a raw and breezy 38 with cloud cover and still a snow covered landscape. This is how winters are supposed to end around here, gradually and reluctantly.
  9. Well it's 43 here with a 5 inch snow cover still. Not exactly spring like, but I'm good with it. The longer winter holds out the better. Spring weather isn't really to be counted on in these parts until early May.
  10. UPDATED - March 25, 2017 I'm tracking how quickly or not the mid to late March climate will melt the current snow pack. I picked a flat spot that has no sun until the afternoon. I ended the evening on Tuesday the 14th with a high of 26 that day with a snow pack of 21 inches. By Wednesday (15th) morning, with an overnight low of 17, the compression had brought it down to 19.5 inches. With the high of 24 on Wednesday, little sun and snow showers throughout the day and a Thursday morning low of 20, the snow pack Thursday (16th) morning, probably due more to compression than anything is 18.8 inches. After a high of 35 Thursday and a Friday morning low of 11, the snow pack Friday (17th) morning is 17.5 inches. After a high of 45 Friday and a Saturday morning low of 10, the snow pack Saturday (18th) morning is 15.2 inches. After a high of 35 Saturday with clouds and snow showers most of the day and a Sunday morning low of 23, Sunday (19th) morning is 15.1 inches. After a high of 44 Sunday (19th) with sun most of the day and a Monday morning low of 16, the snow pack Monday (20th) morning is 12.6 inches. After a high of 49 Monday (20th) with sun most of the day and a Tuesday morning low of 32, the snow pack Tuesday (21st) morning is 11.0 inches. After a high of 56 Tuesday (21st) with sun most of the day and a Wednesday morning low of 29, the snow pack Wednesday (22nd) morning is 7.5 inches. After an afternoon high of 29 Wednesday (22nd) with sun and high winds most of the day and an impressive Thursday morning low of 10, the snow pack Thursday (23rd) morning is 6.8 inches. After an afternoon high of 41 Thursday (23rd) with sun most of the day and a Friday morning low of 21, the snow pack Friday (24th) morning is 6.0 inches. After an afternoon high of 47 Friday (24th) with clouds most of the day and a little rain and a Saturday morning low of 33, the snow pack Saturday (25th) morning is down to 4.7 inches. Yesterday 1.3 inches in snow depth was lost. It is interesting to note that the inches lost each day seems to decrease the lower the depth becomes as the compression and LE of the remaining snow increases proportionately to the remaining snow depth. Areas on hills sloping towards the sun all day and under trees have bare spots. I would probably target Tuesday the 28th when the landscape will be more than 50% snow less. 82 days of snow cover this winter and counting, to be continued tomorrow. Below is the snow cover of 1 inch or more so far this season. Despite a top ten warmest December through February it stands at 82 days and counting this season. ..............Eastern Orange County Winter 2016/17 ................Days with snowpack and total snow .........................................Consecutive......Snowfall Begin date........End Date.....Days 1" cover....during period 20-Nov-16.......26-Nov-16.........6...................4.0 05-Dec-16.......26-Dec-16........21..................9.6 29-Dec-16.......31-Dec-16..........2..................1.7 06-Jan-17........12-Jan-17..........6..................2.7 14-Jan-17........16-Jan-17..........2..................1.0 23-Jan-17........22-Feb-17.........30................26.0 10-Mar-17........25-Mar-17.........15................25.7 ...............................Totals......82................70.7
  11. After an afternoon high of 47 Friday (24th) with clouds most of the day and a little rain and a Saturday morning low of 33, the snow pack Saturday (25th) morning is down to 4.7 inches. Yesterday 1.3 inches in snow depth was lost. It is interesting to note that the inches lost each day seems to decrease the lower the depth becomes as the compression and LE of the remaining snow increases proportionately to the remaining snow depth. Areas on hills sloping towards the sun all day and under trees have bare spots. I would probably target Tuesday the 28th when the landscape will be more than 50% snow less. 82 days of snow cover this winter and counting, to be continued tomorrow.
  12. I agree wholeheartedly, I was just trying to point out what I considered the significant ones I could do from memory, but like I said there are several others in the last 35 years I didn't have time to mention, thanks for adding them. I'm sure there are several others the last 35 years if we researched. I was kid during the May 10 1977 storm and we had about 4 inches in the HV where I live but I remember one town in the Catskills had 27 inches from that storm. Snow in May around here that you can call a freak event but In April it's very common.
  13. And the further N & W you go from NYC it's pretty standard most Aprils to get at least a couple of inches. NYC has had 27 of their 148 April's with an inch or more of snow, granted the far majority pre 1970 but since 1982 there have been several significant winter storms in the NYC area, it's not the freak event snowman19 seems to think it is. The last one in NYC is the April 7 2003 4-6 inch snow storm that canceled the Yankees home opener. April 9 2000 saw 1.2 inches in the city and over a foot in some suburbs. April 1, 1997 saw over a foot in the suburbs N & W of the city, April 9, 1996 saw 1-4 inches in NYC and over a foot on LI. April 6, 1982 of course 10-12 inches in NYC and up to 20 in the suburbs. Many others in the suburbs during that period that were a cold rain in NYC. Every 5-7 years or so someone in our area sees 6-10 inches plus in April, it's hardly a freak event.
  14. Yep bare spots under a lot of the tress here too, especially the evergreens. No way we're making it to April 1 which is what I was hoping for but still 14 days and counting of a mid to late March snow pack is not bad.
  15. After an afternoon high of 41 Thursday (23rd) with sun most of the day and a Friday morning low of 21, the snow pack Friday (24th) morning is 6.0 inches. Yesterday only 0.8 inches in snow depth was lost, despite a bright March sun most of the day and temps that were above freezing by early afternoon. Most of the reduced melt rate I would attribute to the condensed ice pack the almost two feet of snow has compressed and melted into the past 10 days. Areas on hills sloping towards the sun all day show bare spots. 81 days of snow cover this winter and counting, To be continued tomorrow. Below is the snow cover of 1 inch or more so far this season. Despite a top ten warmest December through February it stands at 81 days and counting this season. ..............Eastern Orange County Winter 2016/17 ................Days with snowpack and total snow .........................................Consecutive......Snowfall Begin date........End Date.....Days 1" cover....during period 20-Nov-16.......26-Nov-16.........6...................4.0 05-Dec-16.......26-Dec-16........21..................9.6 29-Dec-16.......31-Dec-16..........2..................1.7 06-Jan-17........12-Jan-17..........6..................2.7 14-Jan-17........16-Jan-17..........2..................1.0 23-Jan-17........22-Feb-17.........30................26.0 10-Mar-17........24-Mar-17.........14................25.7 ...............................Totals......81................70.7