Chris78 Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago The Friday clipper looks even crappier than it did before if that's possible lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paleocene Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago Just now, Chris78 said: The Friday clipper looks even crappier than it did before if that's possible lol. Hey I'll take my 0.7" friday pack refresher on top of the 0.5" I get weds 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowmagnet Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago 1 hour ago, psuhoffman said: So much here…We almost get a snowstorm 48 hours after this. On aigfs we do. And it’s the long range gfs. some of our best storms have been a couple of days after a significant warm-up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisy Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago Well, so much for winter.Sudden stratospheric warming coincides with above average temp periods for us so it makes sense. Statistically there is about a 70% chance we get normal or below normal temps in a few weeks (if the SSW happens) so hang in there 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthArlington101 Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago 52 minutes ago, SnowenOutThere said: Eh it’s what we hoped the midweek thing could be before its energy got split. It happens EPS/AIFS is honking for VA beach/NC again for the pt.2 of the midweek thing. Rich get richer 2 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowenOutThere Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago 25 minutes ago, NorthArlington101 said: EPS/AIFS is honking for VA beach/NC again for the pt.2 of the midweek thing. Rich get richer I mean if our clipper falls apart even more it’s conceivable that energy helps make that storm come north. Probably too late for you but Cvill might get into the fringe 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitchnick Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago 49 minutes ago, NorthArlington101 said: EPS/AIFS is honking for VA beach/NC again for the pt.2 of the midweek thing. Rich get richer I'll say it till I turn blue, you want to be in the bullseye the first decent event(s) because it often tells you where anomalous snowfall will be for the season. Sure enough, the places that got hit several times in December keep on stacking it up. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasnow215 Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago 27 minutes ago, mitchnick said: I'll say it till I turn blue, you want to be in the bullseye the first decent event(s) because it often tells you where anomalous snowfall will be for the season. Sure enough, the places that got hit several times in December keep on stacking it up. West Chesterfield/Magnolia Green area got hit hard on December 9 or whatever that Monday was. 5 inches here. Didn't even have a flake Saturday afternoon and evening. Edit-Dec 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ji Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago in 2 days the pattern for Mid Feb went amazing to heinous. How does that happen so quickly? Is it that sudden? there are no step backs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grothar of Herndon Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago 1 minute ago, Ji said: in 2 days the pattern for Mid Feb went amazing to heinous. How does that happen so quickly? Is it that sudden? there are no step backs? I am not sure why you are surprised. It has happened to us many, many times in the past and many times this winter. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87storms Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago 20 minutes ago, Ji said: in 2 days the pattern for Mid Feb went amazing to heinous. How does that happen so quickly? Is it that sudden? there are no step backs? The weather pattern went from NFC championship to 5-12. Just checked the Euro…how’s 26/27 looking? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitchnick Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago 36 minutes ago, Ji said: in 2 days the pattern for Mid Feb went amazing to heinous. How does that happen so quickly? Is it that sudden? there are no step backs? 2 week ensemble forecasts are as reliable and certain as 2 day Nam forecasts. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ji Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago @psuhoffman i know it might be a little early but if the Cansips is seeing a colder Canada for next winter(el nino), it could be an epic winter. Last nino--canada was a torch--next winter---we should be starting from a much better place 1 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psuhoffman Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 11 minutes ago, Ji said: @psuhoffman i know it might be a little early but if the Cansips is seeing a colder Canada for next winter(el nino), it could be an epic winter. Last nino--canada was a torch--next winter---we should be starting from a much better place The latest CANSIPS was indicating a possible modoki nino. That would increase our chances significantly. 4 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralph Wiggum Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 11 minutes ago, Ji said: @psuhoffman i know it might be a little early but if the Cansips is seeing a colder Canada for next winter(el nino), it could be an epic winter. Last nino--canada was a torch--next winter---we should be starting from a much better place A Nino with a -AO and possibly -NAO? Sign me up 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psuhoffman Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 1 hour ago, mitchnick said: I'll say it till I turn blue, you want to be in the bullseye the first decent event(s) because it often tells you where anomalous snowfall will be for the season. Sure enough, the places that got hit several times in December keep on stacking it up. Sometimes a QPF pattern persists all season...sometimes not. Remember 2015, Everyone thought we were toast when all those snows hit north of us through January and early Feb...then it became our turn from Feb 15 into March. That was maybe the most extreme example but it's hit or miss whether the a pattern persists the whole cold season...the problem with using persistence is it works until it doesn't and it's hard to predict when the pattern is going to change until it does. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weather Will Posted 1 hour ago Author Share Posted 1 hour ago WB latest EPS extended looks like after the cold shot this weekend, it gets warmer for about 10 days, and then gets colder through the end of its run. Best control run in forever shows the potential. Will it pan out? We will know in 6 weeks. Yes, I know the control is just one member so I will also show the mean but we need to lift the mood in here, so no H5 jive from me tonight. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bncho Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 11 minutes ago, psuhoffman said: The latest CANSIPS was indicating a possible modoki nino. That would increase our chances significantly. PSU, why does the state of the Nino matter so much (east-based vs west-based vs modoki vs basin wide), and what unique effects might each one have for us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormtracker Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago No turning back. Fuck it. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JenkinsJinkies Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 14 minutes ago, Weather Will said: it gets warmer for about 10 days Warmer as in closer to average after exiting the arctic or warmer as in our first 60 since December? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psuhoffman Posted 59 minutes ago Share Posted 59 minutes ago 13 minutes ago, bncho said: PSU, why does the state of the Nino matter so much (east-based vs west-based vs modoki vs basin wide), and what unique effects might each one have for us? Where the warmest anomalies are changes exactly how the pattern sets up. A more west based Nino places the tropical forcing closer to the dateline which is where we want it. That tends to correlate with a trough southwest of Alaska...the downstream impacts of which are good for us. An east based nino shifts the whole pattern further east and often we see the north pacific trough end up too close to the Pacific NW which floods the CONUS with pac puke. We need that to be pulled back some. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dallen7908 Posted 58 minutes ago Share Posted 58 minutes ago Warmer as in multiple days in the 50s - may or may not make it to 60. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevWarReenactor Posted 16 minutes ago Share Posted 16 minutes ago 41 minutes ago, dallen7908 said: Warmer as in multiple days in the 50s - may or may not make it to 60. Thats a shame. Chances of snow on snow are now gone. I know its rare. But it seemed like we really had an opportunity with all this cold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarlet Pimpernel Posted 11 minutes ago Share Posted 11 minutes ago 35 minutes ago, JenkinsJinkies said: Warmer as in closer to average after exiting the arctic or warmer as in our first 60 since December? 33 minutes ago, dallen7908 said: Warmer as in multiple days in the 50s - may or may not make it to 60. Yes, it will moderate around mid-month, I think that's been advertised for a bit now so no real surprise. Also, keep in mind that mid-February max temperatures (looking at DCA) are pushing the upper 40s around that time period. So getting into the 50s for a few or several days isn't exactly unusual or "winter cancel" territory. Keep in mind, by the end of this upcoming weekend we will have had one of the most extreme and consistent cold spells in a long time, which will have lasted around 2 full weeks straight. I think some perspective is lost with a bit of freaking out over a relaxing pattern simply because we've had such a prolonged period of very cold and well below freezing. And if/when it turns colder and more favorable again, don't expect that we'll have the same level of cold at that point as what we've just experienced. But we don't have it be that cold to score well the latter part of February and early March. And despite what some on here feel, I personally don't mind a good snow event or two even in late February or March; who cares if it doesn't linger for a long time by that point, climatologically speaking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormtracker Posted 8 minutes ago Share Posted 8 minutes ago We had historic cold and can’t show for it. What are we doing here? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAPE Posted 8 minutes ago Share Posted 8 minutes ago 7 minutes ago, RevWarReenactor said: Thats a shame. Chances of snow on snow are now gone. I know its rare. But it seemed like we really had an opportunity with all this cold. How about snow on glacier covered snow. A coating of snow tomorrow night is pretty likely. Might be paltry but it counts. 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clskinsfan Posted 5 minutes ago Share Posted 5 minutes ago Cant even win in a rainer ffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravensrule Posted 4 minutes ago Share Posted 4 minutes ago 3 minutes ago, stormtracker said: We had historic cold and can’t show for it. What are we doing here? Do you really want me to answer that?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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