Damage In Tolland Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 Let's not put carts before donkeys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 Bumping posts over a coating of snow would be pretty sad. There's a lot more to discuss than arguing over a couple tenths of an inch of snow. So what the consensus on wind and rain, hard to figure out what is thought. I know yesterday Ryan told me gusts to 60. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bostonseminole Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 It does - seems like the NAM plows the LLJ inland and is quite a bit stronger. Euro brushes it by south coast. 18z gfs similar to Euro on winds keeps it mostly offshore then blows into NME and Maritimes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 Phil had a very interesting discussion with our work insurance company about max winds in hurricanes and their impacts in SNE. Tomorrow I will scan the building code map they provided. Has work at 115,sustained while the Cape is 105.I tried explaining the flaws in their map. Lol they were clueless. But the recommendations they want done to our roofs are 1/2 million dollar impacts so it is a big deal, all based on the new hurricane maps. I have the IRC Code at work and that sounds about right for CT. I believe CC is in a 110mph zone, while all of SE MA is in a 100mph zone. Anything within 1mi of the coast has to have impact glazing and be designed in a specific manner. There are specific manuals for each zone that you can purchase as well. How old is the Museum? 5? 10? years old. All of this stuff is being driven by the insurance companies so some of it is overkill I would agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 Let's not put carts before donkeys Let's not be a donkey. Hee-haw! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 Someone could be anyone most don't care about some meaningless flurries after 4 inches of rain has fallen.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold Miser Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 Someone is going to have fun bump bump bumping come Thursday YOU GET NOTHING! YOU LOSE! GOOD DAY, SIR!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 . I think the renewed Arctic push has some good squalls unrelated to the synoptic system. That's a powerful push again. Some decent vorticity involved too. I agree with you. There should be some residual moisture (especially in the low levels after 1-3" of rain) for that back end vorticity and trough axis pushing across the region. It'll also entrain some lake moisture from the Great Lakes, so I could see a radar that shows fairly widespread snow showers. The trick will be if they are heavy enough or last long enough in one location to get some light accums. That's a pretty good push of cold air again for this time of year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 I have the IRC Code at work and that sounds about right for CT. I believe CC is in a 110mph zone, while all of SE MA is in a 100mph zone. Anything within 1mi of the coast has to have impact glazing and be designed in a specific manner. There are specific manuals for each zone that you can purchase as well. How old is the Museum? 5? 10? years old. All of this stuff is being driven by the insurance companies so some of it is overkill I would agree.17 years old, 7 miles inland, impact glazing, Viracon. No way we have ever had 115 sustained at 30 feet. We have had an indepedant anaylysis done, big fight. I did a lot of research , the maps are ludicrous , they have 120 sustained in an arc from Westerly to GON, max in all of SNE. The open face beaches even in SE RI, CC are like we are 7 miles inland. It's like someone drew a map basing all LFs in Old Saybrook at Cat 4 strength . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTWeatherFreak Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 YOU GET NOTHING! YOU LOSE! GOOD DAY, SIR!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnmIoF_2Q4Y Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mahk_webstah Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 anyone know the thresholds for wind and landing at Bos? I'll be in a jumbo from London landing about 5pm Wed. I hope it doesn't cancel and I miss Thxgiving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 17 years old, 7 miles inland, impact glazing, Viracon. No way we have ever had 115 sustained at 30 feet. We have had an indepedant anaylysis done, big fight. I did a lot of research , the maps are ludicrous , they have 120 sustained in an arc from Westerly to GON, max in all of SNE. The open face beaches even in RI, CC are less than we are 7 miles inland. It's like someone drew a map basing all LFs in Old Saybrook at Cat 4 strength . I agree its ludicrous but building codes are now driven by insurance companies. Its going to be a wild wednesday. i think you and i gust into the 40s, maybe 50mph. 2-3" or rain too. few power outages like the other day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 I can see a situation up here after the storm on Wednesday that the ground will still be brown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bostonseminole Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 most don't care about some meaningless flurries after 4 inches of rain has fallen.. i'm interested in the wind situation, flurries are meaningless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSUmetstud Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 it's nice to have November actually have a wintry feel for the first time in awhile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 Well just wrapped up a bear of an update. A lot of stuff to pour over. I'm starting to like the winds behind the system more. The LLJ is pretty nicely situated above the inversion, I'm not too worried outside of coastal areas. Maybe right along the front we can mix some of it down. But otherwise it just looks like a typical blustery, isolated stronger gust kind of LLJ. However, with the low tracking right across the region, the best rise/fall is going to move right overhead. Doesn't look as impressive as yesterday, but still pretty solid CAA gusts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 it's nice to have November actually have a wintry feel for the first time in awhile.As most folks say "seasons in seasons" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forkyfork Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 As most folks say "seasons in seasons"only you say that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 18z NAM is just wild .. Yes please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSUmetstud Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 lol @ the freedom from addiction ad banner. I guess Amwx wants many of us to leave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 lol @ the freedom from addiction ad banner. I guess Amwx wants many of us to leave. Huh? It's from the image Kevin posted at instantweathermaps...lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSUmetstud Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 Huh? It's from the image Kevin posted at instantweathermaps...lol. oh whoops...well i was attempting to make a joke....I looked real quick and though it was amwx. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrisrotary12 Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 Very impressive winds coming in with this system. Any amount of mixing will bring down some serious wind gusts. Only problem is that we have like 0 mixing. Convection is going to be the best chance at bringing those winds down. NAM is advertising 10 m winds gusts north of 50 kts for the eastern half of SNE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 Very impressive winds coming in with this system. Any amount of mixing will bring down some serious wind gusts. Only problem is that we have like 0 mixing. Convection is going to be the best chance at bringing those winds down. NAM is advertising 10 m winds gusts north of 50 kts for the eastern half of SNE. soundings are quite impressive for eastern MA...pretty much sustained >30 knots at the surface for several hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 Very impressive winds coming in with this system. Any amount of mixing will bring down some serious wind gusts. Only problem is that we have like 0 mixing. Convection is going to be the best chance at bringing those winds down. NAM is advertising 10 m winds gusts north of 50 kts for the eastern half of SNE. I really wish we automatically downloaded the CHH Bufkit files here at the office. I know it's not hard to do, but one less step to weenie out on their forecast soundings would be nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 Very impressive winds coming in with this system. Any amount of mixing will bring down some serious wind gusts. Only problem is that we have like 0 mixing. Convection is going to be the best chance at bringing those winds down. NAM is advertising 10 m winds gusts north of 50 kts for the eastern half of SNE. Yeah--things should be pretty good out east. Should be meh out here. But we wouldn't hear the wind over the torrential rains out here anyway. Perhaps we'll do okay with the backside CAA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ineedsnow Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 I wonder if you get lucky with this tonight and tomorrow morning? .NEAR TERM /UNTIL 6 AM TUESDAY MORNING/......BURST OF SNOW POSSIBLE FOR THE MORNING RUSH HOUR TUESDAY...AS OF 650 PM EST...HAVE MADE SOME MAJOR CHANGES TO THE GRIDDEDDATABASE FOR LATE TONIGHT INTO TUESDAY MORNING. LATEST RUC13/HRRRAND 21Z/SREF SUITE INDICATE A BURST OF WARM ADVECTIONPRECIPITATION...DEVELOPING AFTER 08Z TONIGHT...AND LINGERING UNTIL13Z-15Z/TUESDAY. RECENT SATELLITE IMAGERY INDICATES ABUNDANT MIDAND HIGH LEVEL MOISTURE APPROACHING FROM THE SOUTHWEST...INADVANCE OF THE INCOMING CLIPPER-TYPE SYSTEM ACROSS THE GREATLAKES. AS STRONG DYNAMICAL LIFT INTERACTS WITH THE INCOMING MIDLEVEL MOISTURE...PRECIPITATION IS EXPECTED TO DEVELOP BEFOREDAYBREAK...AND LINGER INTO MID MORNING TUESDAY. THE ONLY QUESTIONIS...HOW QUICKLY WITH THE LOW LEVELS SATURATE TO ALLOW PRECIP TOREACH THE GROUND. AT THIS TIME...BASED HEAVILY ON RUC/HRRROUTPUT...HAVE ADDED LIKELY POPS TO MUCH OF THE CAPITALREGION/MOHAWK RIVER VALLEY/BERKSHIRES/EASTERN CATSKILLREGIONS...WITH CHC POPS ELSEWHERE. SNOWFALL ACCUMS WILL GENERALLYBE A DUSTING TO AN INCH...ALTHOUGH THERE MAY BE LOCALLY HIGHERAMTS JUST N OF THE MOHAWK RIVER...ESP ACROSS PORTIONS OF SARATOGACO...WHERE AROUND AN INCH IS EXPECTED...AND ALSO ACROSS PORTIONS OF THECENTRAL TACONICS AND NORTHERN BERKSHIRES...WHERE 1-3 INCHES COULDOCCUR. Yeah--things should be pretty good out east. Should be meh out here. But we wouldn't hear the wind over the torrential rains out here anyway. Perhaps we'll do okay with the backside CAA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrisrotary12 Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 soundings are quite impressive for eastern MA...pretty much sustained >30 knots at the surface for several hours. I don't know if you have, but take a look at some of the forecasted hodographs for the storm. They are quite loopy. lol. The combination of both speed & directional shear are such that the the curves do not stay on the plots that twisterdata produces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klw Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 YOU GET NOTHING! YOU LOSE! GOOD DAY, SIR!!! This is an anagram for DON YOU GET LOTS SNO DAY HUG IIR-GOOY code for a secret incoming snow storm on the IIR-GOOY model? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 I don't know if you have, but take a look at some of the forecasted hodographs for the storm. They are quite loopy. lol. The combination of both speed & directional shear are such that the the curves do not stay on the plots that twisterdata produces. OMG...crazy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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