psuhoffman Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago 31 minutes ago, WxUSAF said: He’s been vigilant for PD3 for 23 years now one of these years its finally going to happen and he will take a victory lap. BTW, if you include storms that happened before the holiday was changed to "Presidents Day" we've actually already had 4 major snowstorms that weekend. If you stretch it to include the Friday before a PD weekend it would be 6! The week of Feb 12-18 does seem to be a hot spot for major snowstorms. By far the greatest frequency of 10" plus events is that week. Other than that one week they are pretty evenly distributed randomly between mid December and mid March...but there is a weird spike that one week. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nw baltimore wx Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago It feels like 1979 all over again!!! 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisy Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago Just an op run. But this lead in actually looks pretty good, nice looking 50/50 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psuhoffman Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago 3 minutes ago, Ji said: Wow I would of thought you got a lot more snow before changeover How did we pull of 2 inches of qpf at 15 degrees and not get a hecs lol I held on to snow another couple hours up here but the snow started a couple hours later so it was a wash...the sleet was definitely dryer up here and less icy after the flip and I think that allowed the sleet to pile up a little bit more...it does seem like the snowcover is slightly thicker up here than in the Baltimore area for example...but honestly snowfall distribution was pretty uniform with this event until you got NW of Harrisburg where they stayed all snow and snowfall jumped up to 15" plus... but no one really got prolific snowfall totals because the best QPF occurred in the zone that ended up flipping to sleet which isn't too common but there was a really strong SW fetch at h8-h7 and it really blasted a warm layer much further north than typical when the boundary is that cold. Glass half full analysis: we managed to get an area wide 6-10" snow/ice storm despite a trough in the west and a system phasing way to our west Glass half empty: we only got 6-10" and flipped to sleet despite having one of the best arctic airmasses in place in a long long time 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxmeddler Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago 8 minutes ago, Ji said: Wow I would of thought you got a lot more snow before changeover How did we pull of 2 inches of qpf at 15 degrees and not get a hecs lol Because the 850 low went up the Ohio Valley! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormtracker Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago Hey guys, the GFS has a medium version of overrunning precip for PD, but you’ll never guess where it’s centered over and leaves us high and dry Good thing it’s the gfs at 200. Takeaway is we may have something to track soon. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caviman2201 Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago 19 minutes ago, Ji said: Wow I would of thought you got a lot more snow before changeover How did we pull of 2 inches of qpf at 15 degrees and not get a hecs lol we got a hecss... a historic east coast sleet storm 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSSN+ Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago 9 minutes ago, stormtracker said: Hey guys, the GFS has a medium version of overrunning precip for PD, but you’ll never guess where it’s centered over and leaves us high and dry Good thing it’s the gfs at 200. Takeaway is we may have something to track soon. CMC close 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psuhoffman Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago 9 minutes ago, stormtracker said: Hey guys, the GFS has a medium version of overrunning precip for PD, but you’ll never guess where it’s centered over and leaves us high and dry Good thing it’s the gfs at 200. Takeaway is we may have something to track soon. I like to set my emotional compass based on what the 200 hour GFS op run shows. It's a stable way to live your life! 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSSN+ Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago 12 minutes ago, wxmeddler said: Because the 850 low went up the Ohio Valley! What about the 850mb high? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paleocene Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago AI GFS has a thingy but its way north. tracks over illinois - PA, transfers, bombs out for NE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psuhoffman Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago 1 minute ago, TSSN+ said: CMC close that reminds me a little of PD2 and I was just thinking...yea I'd love to get an all snow flush hit...but imagine if we got another QPF bomb that includes a significant amount of sleet...we'd have snow OTG up here into April! lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solution Man Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago 13 minutes ago, stormtracker said: Hey guys, the GFS has a medium version of overrunning precip for PD, but you’ll never guess where it’s centered over and leaves us high and dry Good thing it’s the gfs at 200. Takeaway is we may have something to track soon. I trust the GFS @200 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psuhoffman Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago 4 minutes ago, Paleocene said: AI GFS has a thingy but its way north. tracks over illinois - PA, transfers, bombs out for NE That's the front runner wave that's north of us on all guidance...it suppresses the actual threat and squashes it into nothing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisy Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago 12z cmc was a MECS in the making.Still at long range, just good to see 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitchnick Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago Just now, Ji said: Lol. And the 1993 superstorm since 1994 Don't forget the Kennedy inauguration storm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terpeast Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago If I wanted to troll the forum, I would post this: Oh wait... (its an op run 10 days away, so don't take it too seriously) 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WxUSAF Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago 15 minutes ago, psuhoffman said: That's the front runner wave that's north of us on all guidance...it suppresses the actual threat and squashes it into nothing. Maybe I just started paying any attention (likely, was focused on WWAW), but the front runner Tuesday-Wednesday sets the boundary to our south and then we want a decently strong wave to ride along it next Friday-Saturday. That’s a pretty classic order of operations for us. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psuhoffman Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago after all the complaining of a torch and end of snow threats it's going to be funny if we end up worrying about suppression and a NC snowstorm again. 1 6 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAPE Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago 17 minutes ago, Heisy said: 12z cmc was a MECS in the making. Still at long range, just good to see It had the strongest signal among the ens runs at 0z. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soadforecasterx Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago Give me a PD3 all snow MECS for the entire forum and you can call it a winter. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ji Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago 2 minutes ago, soadforecasterx said: Give me a PD3 all snow MECS for the entire forum and you can call it a winter. agree. give me 1-2 feet of snow and ill be okay with getting nothing from Feb 17-Feb 35 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormy Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago I am happy where we stand after the 12z GFS and GEM!! The GFS really didn't do anything with a heavy dump on Augusta this morning because it was only 1 out of 3. Now, we have 2 out of 3 liking a dump of snow on Va., 14 and 15 . 2 out of 3 is much better than 1 out of 3, even if the Euro comes in dry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormtracker Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago 32 minutes ago, Heisy said: 12z cmc was a MECS in the making. Still at long range, just good to see CMC was about to spark us up. I mean, it's good to see models latching on to possibilities other than torching. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthArlington101 Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago AIFS is suppressed for PD3 but a pretty nice look overall 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ji Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago 1 minute ago, NorthArlington101 said: AIFS is suppressed for PD3 but a pretty nice look overall i think with this new pattern that we will be in for PD3, suppression right now is a good thing. I dont think the features that have been in place for suppression now will still be there 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blizzardmeiser Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago 12 minutes ago, Ji said: agree. give me 1-2 feet of snow and ill be okay with getting nothing from Feb 17-Feb 35 A lot of chatter about a blockbuster crippling storm next week. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormtracker Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago 4 minutes ago, blizzardmeiser said: A lot of chatter about a blockbuster crippling storm next week. Please tell me you're joking 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frd Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago 6 minutes ago, Ji said: i think with this new pattern that we will be in for PD3, suppression right now is a good thing. I dont think the features that have been in place for suppression now will still be there AO and NAO are way less negative Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Chill Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago As long as I get the most snow for PD3, I hope the dmv gets demolished ...I'll show myself the door now.... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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