CT Valley Snowman Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 Decided to throw caution to the wind and take the kids sledding near PSF. Estimating 10 inches and still ripping when we left around 330. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 15 minutes ago, wxmanmitch said: Snow has lessened slightly but still coming down at a good rate. Froude #s appear to be dropping a little again as the band seems to be shifting west slightly again. I may actually get more here than up at my VT plot as it's a little east of the crest and the radar echoes have been weaker up there. I will go out and measure in a little, but we're over a foot. Regarding the radar echoes, I wonder if it's like up here where it's hard to tell because the beam gets so far away it over-shoots the low level precipitation. This orographic stuff is probably 7000ft or lower in the atmosphere for the real precipitation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amped Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 4 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said: There must be a huge difference from east side of town near Searsburg vs the west side on the other side of the spine. That west side must be getting destroyed. RPM model actually showed a sharp cutoff too near the crest. Tough luck for Haystack and Mount Snow if that's the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaineJayhawk Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 How'd upstate New York in the St Lawrence valley do? Not really paying this storm much attention but I recall discussion about a weird QPF anomaly that maybe the GPS was hammering consistently Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 2 minutes ago, MaineJayhawk said: How'd upstate New York in the St Lawrence valley do? Not really paying this storm much attention but I recall discussion about a weird QPF anomaly that maybe the GPS was hammering consistently Hammer time there is between now and tomorrow morning on those sick GFS runs. So we won't really know until tomorrow but I don't see anything imminent on radar that suggests they are going to bank 2" of qpf in the next 24 hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 Pretty nice Georgian Bay connection on radar for a streamer going all the way north of AVP and even into lower Hudson valley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 The wind has started to shift and its got at least a little westerly component up to 10,000ft now. Its causing the precip to redevelop over the Spine (Mansfield on the zig-zag county line due west of the MVL marker is back under those 25-35dbz) now but should ebb and flow a bit as the wind continues to come around in the mid-levels. The local BTV4 model Froude numbers seem to be handling this quite well right now (see screen shot). Today it had values less than 1 and sometimes values as low as .5 or lower which is all indicative of western slope and blocked flow due to the wind shear with height. Then you can see how as the wind becomes more uniformly from the NW at all levels, the Froude numbers rise towards the critical value of 1 by around midnight tonight (which means precip centered right over the crest)...and then holds greater than 1 all day tomorrow into tomorrow night with that deep layer NW flow. It even rises up to 1.5-2 range which is when its getting pushed quite a bit downwind (those values might give Dendrite some snow showers or a squall tomorrow). Then as Monday night gets going, the nocturnal inversion starts dropping the Froude numbers again back under 1. There definitely is some diurnal influence to it as well all else equal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxmanmitch Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 14" total, 12" depth. Snow consistency has changed markedly from the mash potatoes we had earlier to fluff now as we've dropped into the upper 20s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 2 minutes ago, wxmanmitch said: 14" total, 12" depth. Snow consistency has changed markedly from the mash potatoes we had earlier to fluff now as we've dropped into the upper 20s. That's awesome. Man it must feel good after some screw jobs past couple of years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitman Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 22 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said: Pretty nice Georgian Bay connection on radar for a streamer going all the way north of AVP and even into lower Hudson valley. Just spoke to my son in Binghamton. They are getting some pretty heavy lake effect now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 The pics today are great. Love seeing them grass and other non-paved surfaces here have a half inch or so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitman Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 23 minutes ago, powderfreak said: The wind has started to shift and its got at least a little westerly component up to 10,000ft now. Its causing the precip to redevelop over the Spine (Mansfield on the zig-zag county line due west of the MVL marker is back under those 25-35dbz) now but should ebb and flow a bit as the wind continues to come around in the mid-levels. The local BTV4 model Froude numbers seem to be handling this quite well right now (see screen shot). Today it had values less than 1 and sometimes values as low as .5 or lower which is all indicative of western slope and blocked flow due to the wind shear with height. Then you can see how as the wind becomes more uniformly from the NW at all levels, the Froude numbers rise towards the critical value of 1 by around midnight tonight (which means precip centered right over the crest)...and then holds greater than 1 all day tomorrow into tomorrow night with that deep layer NW flow. It even rises up to 1.5-2 range which is when its getting pushed quite a bit downwind (those values might give Dendrite some snow showers or a squall tomorrow). Then as Monday night gets going, the nocturnal inversion starts dropping the Froude numbers again back under 1. There definitely is some diurnal influence to it as well all else equal. 6" on the Lincoln peak snow cam (no drifting). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 Pretty boring day weather wise here. Very little rain and winds have not been extraordinary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSnowman Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 Not sure why my post didn't show up but - Can it SNOW TONIGHT HERE!? And Welcome back everyone!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted November 20, 2016 Author Share Posted November 20, 2016 58 minutes ago, CTValleySnowMan said: Decided to throw caution to the wind and take the kids sledding near PSF. Estimating 10 inches and still ripping when we left around 330. True weenie, love it, used to take me kids from Westerly RI to Foster RI for the same. They still remember it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted November 20, 2016 Author Share Posted November 20, 2016 26 minutes ago, HoarfrostHubb said: The pics today are great. Love seeing them grass and other non-paved surfaces here have a half inch or so Congrats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIPPYVALLEY Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 1 hour ago, wxmanmitch said: 14" total, 12" depth. Snow consistency has changed markedly from the mash potatoes we had earlier to fluff now as we've dropped into the upper 20s. So you have probably gotten close to half of your last season's total from this one event. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bostonseminole Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 Flurries!!Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIPPYVALLEY Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 1 hour ago, HoarfrostHubb said: The pics today are great. Love seeing them grass and other non-paved surfaces here have a half inch or so Wow. Nice. It's been flurries here since 4pm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 1 hour ago, Baroclinic Zone said: Pretty boring day weather wise here. Very little rain and winds have not been extraordinary. 0.08" to be more precise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 Been snowing pretty good here this evening.....first flakes of the season. Bit too mild for accumulation, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 Wachusett getting a little whiter should have good snowmaking temps this week at least Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 1 hour ago, wxmanmitch said: 14" total, 12" depth. Snow consistency has changed markedly from the mash potatoes we had earlier to fluff now as we've dropped into the upper 20s. Damn man congrats! We are over to pure powder at this point though I've only got about an inch in the yard after the warm ground and break in snow this afternoon melted back the morning burst. Blizzard up at the ski resort though. Just drove up there, snow accums aren't that impressive, but very hard to tell in the dark with 30-40kt winds. After a long summer and lack of events last winter, that was probably some of the more extreme winter storm conditions I've seen in two years. Literally whiteout SN+ fluffy dendrites but getting absolutely annhilated by winds gusting to 40-50mph. Could barely open my car door facing the north. Whole SUV was rocking out in the open. Snow is accumulating in a wave pattern up there and is really wind-packed. That'll hurt us even if the overall QPF might be similar when compared to the west side where snow is falling straight down and stacking high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted November 21, 2016 Author Share Posted November 21, 2016 We snow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxeyeNH Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 30.8F light snow. Ground coated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorEastermass128 Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 First flakes of the season in Woburn! Missing it. Just got a picture of my nephew running out in it with a yard stick haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 First measurable of the year. 31.6F -SN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUNNAWAYICEBERG Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 congrats for those with accums, been a wintry day here with off and on flurries with some steadier stuff past couple hours. a nice quick seasonal change this weekend, no gradual stepdown... just winter steamrolling ahead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 1 minute ago, dendrite said: First measurable of the year. 31.6F -SN Just checked the radar before you posted and was going to say it looked like you were getting snow, SLP is right overhead here, May pick up .5-1" once it lifts north Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klw Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 In a lull now, I measured 7.9 inches at 8 pm or so. We lost power for about 3 to 4 hours. They kept on turning it on and it would go again within seconds. The power guys kept going up and down our road trying to figure it out. Wow is the new driveway a bear to shovel! It is about 80 yards and steep. That was not fun, especially in the dark! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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