OceanStWx Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 11 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said: Can't believe how much lake effect is out in central NY...BGM with like 20". That's not typical there. ITH will probably be in double digits...I only saw one lake effect snow event in my time there that cracked double digits and it was very localized off Lake Cayuga, not hugely widespread like this one over central NY. Their preferred wind direction is like 340...not 300 like it is in this event. But all the stars lined up for extreme efficiency...the early season nature which means the lakes are still really warm, the exceptional synoptic moisture and remnant TROWAL, and the duration of the flow...kind of sat there and spun north of VT for a full day. It really wasn't pure LES if we're being technical...the synoptic support has allowed it to be as prolific as it has been. Never mind that this event represents half of last season's total. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 Bretton Woods getting hit nicely. 24.8F, no wind at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qg_omega Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 8 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said: Can't believe how much lake effect is out in central NY...BGM with like 20". That's not typical there. ITH will probably be in double digits...I only saw one lake effect snow event in my time there that cracked double digits and it was very localized off Lake Cayuga, not hugely widespread like this one over central NY. Their preferred wind direction is like 340...not 300 like it is in this event. But all the stars lined up for extreme efficiency...the early season nature which means the lakes are still really warm, the exceptional synoptic moisture and remnant TROWAL, and the duration of the flow...kind of sat there and spun north of VT for a full day. It really wasn't pure LES if we're being technical...the synoptic support has allowed it to be as prolific as it has been. I saw one mega LES event which was not from FLES, the flow was about 310 and it was a mega band coming down from Ontario like this event but slightly to the NE. Think we picked up around a foot of snow which was super impressive for a LES event but like this it was a hybrid. From the ground reports it looks like Ithaca / Cornell just missed the heaviest snow which was just SW of the city proper (maybe IC saw more snow). ...TOMPKINS COUNTY... CAROLINE CENTER 20.3 801 AM 11/21 15.7 LAST 25 HRS. 1 ESE GROTON 10.9 700 AM 11/21 9.1 24 HRS 2 NE FREEVILLE 10.1 700 AM 11/21 7.9 PAST 24 HRS DRYDEN 9.0 912 AM 11/21 FACEBOOK WNW TRUMANSBURG 8.1 615 AM 11/21 COCORAHS 1 SE ITHACA 7.0 700 AM 11/21 COCORAHS ITHACA 4.2 702 AM 11/21 TRAINED SPOTTER That was this morning, game farm recorded 6 also this morning, which is NE of Cornell proper as you know. Caroline Center maybe up to 26 or so inches by now which is unheard of for them. http://forecast.weather.gov/product.php?site=bgm&product=PNS&issuedby=bgm See if this updates by tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 41 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said: 31.5 high here. Now 29.7 Got up to 28.6 at the Pit, now down to 26.5. I'll be heading back to there tonight. Perhaps the trip will have some wintry appeal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 32 minutes ago, Ginx snewx said: its a beautiful thing Wow that's really cool dude Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 3 hours ago, backedgeapproaching said: From the Upstate NY thread: Holy sh*t. Damn lol. Wheres that from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitman Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 42 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said: Can't believe how much lake effect is out in central NY...BGM with like 20". That's not typical there. ITH will probably be in double digits...I only saw one lake effect snow event in my time there that cracked double digits and it was very localized off Lake Cayuga, not hugely widespread like this one over central NY. Their preferred wind direction is like 340...not 300 like it is in this event. But all the stars lined up for extreme efficiency...the early season nature which means the lakes are still really warm, the exceptional synoptic moisture and remnant TROWAL, and the duration of the flow...kind of sat there and spun north of VT for a full day. It really wasn't pure LES if we're being technical...the synoptic support has allowed it to be as prolific as it has been. my son skied on binghamton campus today. good for them. I had one good snow in my four years in ithaca. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 Tropical tidbits has isentropic charts. You can plot the 300K surface. You can see it originate from east of Bahamas at 850mb or so and wraps all the way around into SNE at like 450mb. Pretty sick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowgeek Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 2 hours ago, eduggs said: I'm hearing 2 day totals of 24-30" in ENY near the MA border, mostly above 1200ft. And 8-20" from 500-1000ft. Biggest snowstorm since at least October 2011, and in some cases much longer for that region. And there are still streamers impacting the area. Upslope is common around there but very rarely more than 12". I waited years for this storm but moved away 1 year too early. Congrats to everyone who saw good snow. May this season spread the wealth to all. Welcome back to Albany......snow all around us, someday we'll cash in too lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
backedgeapproaching Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 9 minutes ago, powderfreak said: Holy sh*t. Damn lol. Wheres that from? 30 miles west of SYR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 I mean the gradients on these events are so awesome. Pain to forecast, but that's why we do what we do. The difference as the crow flies from ITH to Caroline Center is not very far. And you're talking half a foot to two feet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 Still a wintry appeal here with -SN all day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 1 minute ago, OceanStWx said: I mean the gradients on these events are so awesome. Pain to forecast, but that's why we do what we do. The difference as the crow flies from ITH to Caroline Center is not very far. And you're talking half a foot to two feet. It's like a 15 minute drive, lol. Must a nice gradient along Slaterville Springs. Looks like it's ripping again in ITH...they'll prob crack 10" when it's all done, but I'd be kind of pissed missing 2 feet by a few miles. I used to hate how Cortland would sometimes score 12"+ in a multiband setup while we'd snow all day and get about 2". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 2 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said: It's like a 15 minute drive, lol. Must a nice gradient along Slaterville Springs. Looks like it's ripping again in ITH...they'll prob crack 10" when it's all done, but I'd be kind of pissed missing 2 feet by a few miles. I used to hate how Cortland would sometimes score 12"+ in a multiband setup while we'd snow all day and get about 2". All those poor freshmen wondering what the hell they got themselves into. Must've been a great view from Bradfield, with the lake band just to the east of campus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSUmetstud Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 1 hour ago, ORH_wxman said: Can't believe how much lake effect is out in central NY...BGM with like 20". That's not typical there. ITH will probably be in double digits...I only saw one lake effect snow event in my time there that cracked double digits and it was very localized off Lake Cayuga, not hugely widespread like this one over central NY. Their preferred wind direction is like 340...not 300 like it is in this event. But all the stars lined up for extreme efficiency...the early season nature which means the lakes are still really warm, the exceptional synoptic moisture and remnant TROWAL, and the duration of the flow...kind of sat there and spun north of VT for a full day. It really wasn't pure LES if we're being technical...the synoptic support has allowed it to be as prolific as it has been. This is a mini-blizzard of late jan 66, was talking with forky about it earlier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 Snowy evening and the Winter Storm Warning is definitely warranted as the roads and conditions are absolute crap, regardless of totals. Visibility is low, the snow is dry powder that's sifting and blowing across the road surfaces. Total on the board is 6.3" and the snow depth is 7" but that's in the yard so probably an inch or so of grass until that gets packed down by more snow or heavier content stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterWolf Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 Wintry appeal all day here today...didn't accumulate after this mornings inch...but snowed most all day, and just stopped a few minutes ago. Enjoyed the look and feel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIPPYVALLEY Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 .25"-5" on the grass at home. Nothing near the totals W of here but still 2nd measurable of the season, pre-thanksgiving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted November 21, 2016 Author Share Posted November 21, 2016 4 inch QPF in upstate NY reports of 4 feet of snow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
backedgeapproaching Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 Nasty shadow down in SVT where Woodford got 26" and drops off to quickly down the east slopes. They short changed my 8.2" with 7.2" on the map. Guess they didn't include my 1.0" report from 11/20. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted November 21, 2016 Author Share Posted November 21, 2016 67 MPH gust in Oswego , 4 feet and still dumping Montague , LEK at Syracuse University getting 3 per hour . Good lord Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 It'll compact and melt down to 8" by Thanksgiving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted November 22, 2016 Author Share Posted November 22, 2016 May have figured out how the GFS was throwing so much QPF in the St Lawrence area . This LES plume is from Hudson Bay all the way to the US Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danstorm Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 38 minutes ago, Ginx snewx said: 67 MPH gust in Oswego , 4 feet and still dumping Montague , LEK at Syracuse University getting 3 per hour . Good lord Fascinating event on many levels in so many locales, haven't seen a localized NW Ct dump like that since I was a kid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qg_omega Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 27 minutes ago, Ginx snewx said: May have figured out how the GFS was throwing so much QPF in the St Lawrence area . This LES plume is from Hudson Bay all the way to the US Hudson bay wide open? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmj16725 Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 0.5" here this morning which melted during the day but have picked up an additional 3/4" here since 5 PM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted November 22, 2016 Author Share Posted November 22, 2016 Pretty much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 The gfs qpf blob was further to the NE. It wasn't in the traditional upslope areas which made it weird. From what I can see, I don't think those amounts varified where it had it. Different story in the favored areas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowman21 Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 25 minutes ago, danstorm said: Fascinating event on many levels in so many locales, haven't seen a localized NW Ct dump like that since I was a kid. What about that trough that dumped like 8-9 inches in a few hours in the early evening over a tiny little sliver of western CT (I think maybe Washington or maybe it was slightly west of there was the jackpot) a few years back? Not as impressive as 16 inches, but that was an even more localized freak type of event. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoth Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 41 minutes ago, snowman21 said: What about that trough that dumped like 8-9 inches in a few hours in the early evening over a tiny little sliver of western CT (I think maybe Washington or maybe it was slightly west of there was the jackpot) a few years back? Not as impressive as 16 inches, but that was an even more localized freak type of event. That was a Norlun in Jan '11, a few days before the blizzard. I believe a few spots picked up close to 15" in that. I had 7 or 8 north of New Haven. That was a great event, the first over several great events that month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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