tamarack Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 That was an absolutely totally different setup though, you were under total marine air from the mega NAO just draining in Atlantic 38 degree air at all levels. Not close to what this is all about. Very true. The Retro-Bomb That Ate Winter shall never be repeated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Until the interaction between the PV lobe and polar jet shortwave decreases, you are not going to get many good looking solutions. The trend on the 00z suite was to increase this interaction which strengthened the primary and all of its associated conveyors. mmm there is another possibility... should the southern stream impulse get stronger it may entice the spv to sag and eventually collapse s through the geopotential medium - the n-stream then subsumes in that scenario ...usually ending up somewhere along the original s-stream's v-max track-axis. of course, with that much cold differential at core and the s-streams thermal dynamic gulp the thing ends up a bomb... less likely, granted... but it's not impossible. there are many, many examples in the storm annals where that took place. 1978, 2001 to name a couple. this pattern's been teetering with that risk ...it just hasn't done the deed yet. i wonder if this type of rapid s-stream inject with cold lobes dangling about southern canada can make it through a whole next 50 or so days without ever doing that. hm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Jeffafa take a GGEM JMA NAVY look and run, geezus what a plastering Took a look at the crazy uncle, That wasn't bad either, 969mb just east of the tip of Novie, 0z GGEM, lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JC-CT Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Is this one of those situations that could end up giving us a real "paste" snow? I mean where the temps are marginal enough at all levels to produce a high density type snowstorm (or snow to rain to snow) away from the coast? Could the secondary prove to be strong enough to pull in enough cold air to make this happen? I'm not looking for IMBY. I'm wondering about the meteorology here. Of course you are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRSno Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Having experienced (Feb 2010) cold rain on NE winds from a "perfect track" storm while NYC got buried under 21", the anomaly is something to brag about even with the pain. #NeverForget Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterWolf Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Feb 2010 may have been a totally different beast, but the outcome so far is the same...which is Nadda!! And in the end, we still lose. Whether you're robbed of a H.R. by a spectacular catch that ends your game, or you just weren't in the game to begin with really doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things, because you lost either way. But I'd rather we be 65 like December and be out of the game completely, then have a beast on the benchmark and have a 34 degree cold rain...that hurts way more imo. But being so very close and losing is worse, than being out of the game completely. But in the end the outcome is the same, it just feels different depending on how you achieve your loss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Feb 2010 may have been a totally different beast, but the outcome so far is the same...which is Nadda!! And in the end, we still lose. Whether you're robbed of a H.R. by a spectacular catch that ends your game, or you just weren't in the game to begin with really doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things, because you lost either way. But I'd rather we be 65 like December and be out of the game completely, then have a beast on the benchmark and have a 34 degree cold rain...that hurts way more imo. But being so very close and losing is worse, than being out of the game completely. But in the end the outcome is the same, it just feels different depending on how you achieve your loss. What a melt Good gravy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterWolf Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Not a melt, just saying it feels different losing on how it comes about. But we still end up with nothing either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mreaves Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 #NeverForget Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROOSTA Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 One way of looking at it...sure going to be lousy playing a game in it. Not a drop or flake has fallen, fact. All the models will waffle to one degree or another, fact. Roller-coaster model hugging bias posting BS. I wish this sub-forum had a red-tag only thread or one that is extremely moderated just to rid the frivolous posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted January 13, 2016 Author Share Posted January 13, 2016 Of course you are What a fraud post that was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JC-CT Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Feb 2010 may have been a totally different beast, but the outcome so far is the same...which is Nadda!! And in the end, we still lose. Whether you're robbed of a H.R. by a spectacular catch that ends your game, or you just weren't in the game to begin with really doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things, because you lost either way. But I'd rather we be 65 like December and be out of the game completely, then have a beast on the benchmark and have a 34 degree cold rain...that hurts way more imo. But being so very close and losing is worse, than being out of the game completely. But in the end the outcome is the same, it just feels different depending on how you achieve your loss. Nah. Tracking the storm is the best part. Even though it didn't work out, at least we weren't bored to death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUNNAWAYICEBERG Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 #NeverForget Great storm here. Good memories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 That storm was an epic wind event in NE MA and SNH. Probably one of the most anomalous wind events for the interior of NH. Maybe not snow, but that storm was pretty incredible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JC-CT Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Best just to ignore the NAM - although, usually overamped at this lead time... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wx2fish Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 That storm was an epic wind event in NE MA and SNH. Probably one of the most anomalous wind events for the interior of NH. Maybe not snow, but that storm was pretty incredible. One of the most memorable wind events here. Its in the top 5 for power outages for NH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Jeffe NNE Maine dudes. I like to look at Dprogs which is the run to run difference in HPA. Notice the huge jump NNE into the GOM. You guys need to watch this very closely as many models have basically a full blown blizzard for you. A 19.4 HPA drop is very significant, also stronger blocking to slow this down for you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USCAPEWEATHERAF Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 NAM is progressive with this storm, this could lead to stronger height rises east of the second storm's shortwave and long wave troughs. NAM likes second storm more in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ineedsnow Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Fwiw nam is way ots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USCAPEWEATHERAF Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 ineedsnow, that is better news for the second storm on Monday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eekuasepinniW Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 That storm was an epic wind event in NE MA and SNH. Probably one of the most anomalous wind events for the interior of NH. Maybe not snow, but that storm was pretty incredible. I made a rare decision to head to the coast for that storm, and turns out I didn't even have to. Easily one of the best weather events of my life. Would trade every flake of snow for the next few years for another. LCI: 39 G56 CON: 35 G68 PSM: 41 G68 Still mad I couldn't get to the Isles of Shoals for the 90mph though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 I made a rare decision to head to the coast for that storm, and turns out I didn't even have to. Easily one of the best weather events of my life. Would trade every flake of snow for the next few years for another. LCI: 39 G56 CON: 35 G68 PSM: 41 G68 Still mad I couldn't get to the Isles of Shoals for the 90mph though. i loved your video, still have it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Fwiw nam is way ots Great. Less rain. Maybe I'll keep my glacier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 I made a rare decision to head to the coast for that storm, and turns out I didn't even have to. Easily one of the best weather events of my life. Would trade every flake of snow for the next few years for another. LCI: 39 G56 CON: 35 G68 PSM: 41 G68 Still mad I couldn't get to the Isles of Shoals for the 90mph though. The wind never made it here. I had a gust to 30something. Damn inversion. Nov '50 is probably #1 here for a non-tropical system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted January 13, 2016 Author Share Posted January 13, 2016 That storm was an epic wind event in NE MA and SNH. Probably one of the most anomalous wind events for the interior of NH. Maybe not snow, but that storm was pretty incredible. Yes, I remember that even I was impressed,, which hardly ever happens....this area is a wind hole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Jeffe NNE Maine dudes. I like to look at Dprogs which is the run to run difference in HPA. Notice the huge jump NNE into the GOM. You guys need to watch this very closely as many models have basically a full blown blizzard for you. A 19.4 HPA drop is very significant, also stronger blocking to slow this down for you Pretty impressive, I will start to follow the evolution for this one today, I think it certainly has legs for up here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 A lot of melting in here on this cold winter day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted January 13, 2016 Author Share Posted January 13, 2016 ineedsnow, that is better news for the second storm on Monday. USCAPEWEATHERAF, ain't happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Best just to ignore the NAM fyp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Was the Feb 2010 wind event the one that had the fire at Hampton Beach? Nevermind...just looked it up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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