Spooky Season (October Disco Thread)

[jbenedet]

50 minutes ago, tamarack said:

Most of our leaves had fallen by mid-October when the average temp is 56/35.  By mid-November it's 42/24.  Unless the sun moves about 10 million miles closer, losing the shade won't come close to compensate for that magnitude of temp drop, especially when November vies with December as our cloudiest month.  (During my year in urban forestry, I learned that the sticks catch 25-40% of the sun - not the 90%+ of full foliage but still significant.)

1.18" thru 8 AM with light rain/DZ since.  Not a drought breaker but useful.  Had some strong gusts about 5 AM but light wind after that, but it has picked up again about 10:15.

I shouldn’t have to explain this but conservatively shade vs non shade is about -10/+10 in terms of real temperature.

That’s point 1 

point 2 is key — this matters in how many south facing windows you have, but if you maximize that, the heat captured is incredible as the lower angle is directed into the core of the house rather than to the roof as in summer. This affect is not well correlated to atmospheric temperatures… 

Next time you go into your full-sun exposed car, and it’s 30-40 outside take note how it’s 65+ in your car. That heat is captured and not irradiated back. Same as your home. If you’re paying attention, these are basic physical processes at work and intuitive.

 

[jbenedet]

Heats been off all day; night included and it’s 69 inside.

And that’s with partly sunnny skies.

 

[Damage In Tolland]

48 minutes ago, dryslot said:

I will never understand why some folks try to hold out turning on the heat, Its not like you win a prize or a trip to a tropical climate............

It’s the same concept as not installing when it’s hot and humid. It’s a weird mindset 

[ineedsnow]

3 hours ago, Lava Rock said:

awesome location. must have missed it, but where's this again?

Baldwin mills Quebec. All the way up interstate 91 then after you cross the border its about 15 minutes to get there.

[ineedsnow]

3 hours ago, dendrite said:

Lake Lyster in QB
 

Looks like a nice place to jump from when winter sucks. 

Ive been up.that mountain many times and surprisingly haven't .. its a very popular area in Summer

[Brian5671]

1 hour ago, dryslot said:

I will never understand why some folks try to hold out turning on the heat, Its not like you win a prize or a trip to a tropical climate............

I think it's that it's depressing that it will be on for the nexte 5-6 months...LOL.   I'm with you that first cold morning it's on...

[dryslot]

17 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said:

It’s the same concept as not installing when it’s hot and humid. It’s a weird mindset 

Same, Now having heat pumps, Don't have to lug the window rattlers in and out of the house.

[dryslot]

3 minutes ago, Brian5671 said:

I think it's that it's depressing that it will be on for the nexte 5-6 months...LOL.   I'm with you that first cold morning it's on...

I mean, Why suffer and be stubborn about not turning it on.   

[powderfreak]

11 minutes ago, dryslot said:

Same, Now having heat pumps, Don't have to lug the window rattlers in and out of the house.

Once you have heat pumps, you really don't care one way or another.  If you are warm you make it cold and if you are cold you make it warm, lol. 

I still haven't turned my boiler on though this season.  Just using the mini-splits to manage it.  Once it actually gets cold though, it'll be time for some real heat.

[dendrite]

I don’t mind being a little hot or a little cool at times. I don’t need to live in a 68-72 window or otherwise feel like I’m suffering. But yeah, if I’m overly uncomfortable and the forecast for the day isn’t going to help raise the temp inside, I’m going to turn the stove on for a bit. 

[tamarack]

1 hour ago, dryslot said:

I will never understand why some folks try to hold out turning on the heat, Its not like you win a prize or a trip to a tropical climate............

And the folks rushing to install - sometimes the same people.  

[UnitedWx]

1 hour ago, dryslot said:

I will never understand why some folks try to hold out turning on the heat, Its not like you win a prize or a trip to a tropical climate............

I can't stand a hot home. And overheating the interior is a great way to help dry you out, leading to a better chance of illness

[Lava Rock]

1.6" final

[dryslot]

3 minutes ago, UnitedWx said:

I can't stand a hot home. And overheating the interior is a great way to help dry you out, leading to a better chance of illness

Higher the heat, The lower the humidity levels are, Gets pretty dry in the winter.

[mreaves]

1 hour ago, dryslot said:

I do as well, This time of year i set the thermostat at 66°F.

64° at night and 68° during the day.

[dryslot]

4 minutes ago, mreaves said:

64° at night and 68° during the day.

I just leave it at 68°F when the constant cold hits.

[tamarack]

56 minutes ago, jbenedet said:

I shouldn’t have to explain this but conservatively shade vs non shade is about -10/+10 in terms of real temperature.

That’s point 1 

point 2 is key — this matters in how many south facing windows you have, but if you maximize that, the heat captured is incredible as the lower angle is directed into the core of the house rather than to the roof as in summer. This affect is not well correlated to atmospheric temperatures… 

Next time you go into your full-sun exposed car, and it’s 30-40 outside take note how it’s 65+ in your car. That heat is captured and not irradiated back. Same as your home. If you’re paying attention, these are basic physical processes at work and intuitive.

 

Good explanations, if a bit pedantic.  ("I shouldn't have to explain this . . ." and ". . . if you're paying attention, . . .")

I don't count the number of sticks I put into the Jotul, but looking at 2 average temp days a month apart - 9/24 (avg 55°) with near full foliage and 10/24 (avg 43°) with 95% leaf drop - I know it took considerably more wood to hold the desirable temp on the latter day.  Part of the reason the car comparison may not be totally relevant is because our house is far more greatly insulated and has double-pane windows.  The lower sun angle works both ways - it hits windows more directly but also has to pass thru more atmosphere and filter thru more sticks.

 

[HIPPYVALLEY]

This home heating discussion is scintillating.  Maybe next @kdxken can chime in with which wood is highest btu?
 

[wokeupthisam]

1.87" final, very happy for it too.  2hr power outage after a strong gust at 7:50am but nice 57° temps out there now.

[CoastalWx]

35 minutes ago, tamarack said:

Good explanations, if a bit pedantic.  ("I shouldn't have to explain this . . ." and ". . . if you're paying attention, . . .")

I don't count the number of sticks I put into the Jotul, but looking at 2 average temp days a month apart - 9/24 (avg 55°) with near full foliage and 10/24 (avg 43°) with 95% leaf drop - I know it took considerably more wood to hold the desirable temp on the latter day.  Part of the reason the car comparison may not be totally relevant is because our house is far more greatly insulated and has double-pane windows.  The lower sun angle works both ways - it hits windows more directly but also has to pass thru more atmosphere and filter thru more sticks.

 

You have to understand the amount of BTUs those candles at the altar throw out. Keeps his house nice and toasty.

[kdxken]

30 minutes ago, HIPPYVALLEY said:

This home heating discussion is scintillating.  Maybe next @kdxken can chime in with which wood is highest btu?
 

Black locust

[kdxken]

Wind starting to crank in the last few minutes.

[AstronomyEnjoyer]

Heating can be expensive. My parents spent around 1000$ a month in fuel oil during winter at their old house. And that was with a pellet stove too.

[UnitedWx]

1 hour ago, mreaves said:

64° at night and 68° during the day.

We are 62 at night, and 65/66 during the day when home. Pellet stove running, It'll get easily to 68 on low on a cold day.

[Chrisrotary12]

43 minutes ago, kdxken said:

Wind starting to crank in the last few minutes.

Yep. Same here. Notable pick up last few minutes.

[WinterWolf]

When it gets cool/cold, If I’m uncomfortable, the heat goes on.
 

When it gets warm/or hot in the spring, If I’m warm, the air goes on.  It’s that simple.  No set times of year for anything like that. Just want to stay comfortable.  

[Ginx snewx]

3 hours ago, Damage In Tolland said:

It’s the same concept as not installing when it’s hot and humid. It’s a weird mindset 

Saving money is fun. I can use money saved to make more home improvements. Pellet stove might be my best investment yet. Yea the Pope is right about south side but when you live on the ne side of a hill the sun rises late and sets early and of course its been cloudy. 

[Great Snow 1717]

3 hours ago, Brewbeer said:

this.  I have a kick-ass heating system in my house and I'm not leaving it off when it's cold outside.  keep mine in the 68-70 range, bit cooler in the bedroom for sleeping

You'd freeze at my place lol...70 ain't happening lol

[Ginx snewx]

2 hours ago, powderfreak said:

Once you have heat pumps, you really don't care one way or another.  If you are warm you make it cold and if you are cold you make it warm, lol. 

I still haven't turned my boiler on though this season.  Just using the mini-splits to manage it.  Once it actually gets cold though, it'll be time for some real heat.

Snow in them hills tonight?

[Typhoon Tip]

The low actually bottomed out just below 980 mb up there ... pretty good.