Baroclinic Zone Posted March 26, 2015 Author Share Posted March 26, 2015 Evidence? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 Anyone else waiting for the 13z outlook and seeing if the marginal risk gets expanded north? DAMN IT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 Evidence? That was the latest reported by the media this morning. It may have been brought down by the co-pilot. Who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted March 26, 2015 Author Share Posted March 26, 2015 That was the latest reported by the media this morning. It may have been brought down by the co-pilot. Who knows. That's about all we know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 I read the comment from the French official but if you read into it, it's not as if the co-pilot actually said that he was doing it intentionally. It says that there was no response at all so anything could have happened but I wonder why they are leaning toward that.From what I've seen reported.. It was linked to jihad. The guy that locked the pilot out was some sort if terrorist cell in Germany. That hasn't bern confirmed, but it's what they think was involved Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mreaves Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 Anyone else waiting for the 13z outlook and seeing if the marginal risk gets expanded north? DAMN IT Please take your weather talk elsewhere sir. Good day! I said good day!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 Please take your weather talk elsewhere sir. Good day! I said good day!! My apologies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WNash Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 From what I've seen reported.. It was linked to jihad. The guy that locked the pilot out was some sort if terrorist cell in Germany. That hasn't bern confirmed, but it's what they think was involved I'm seeing the copilot's name reported all over the place, but nothing linking him to a terror cell. Where are you hearing about a connection to jihad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 I'm seeing the copilot's name reported all over the place, but nothing linking him to a terror cell. Where are you hearing about a connection to jihad? Tolland Patch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 I saw a few posts on my Twitter feed.. One from a French news journal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugarloaf1989 Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 It could also be the pilot had mental instability issues. Egyptair flight 990 is somewhat similar in that the most likely scenario for that plane crash is for the pilot committing suicide. Either way it takes one cool cucumber to crash that plane into a mountain without so much as a peep from him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 Conventional terror or not...it is still murder of 150 innocent people and fear put into other people around the world. If you want to kill yourself, do it quietly by yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamarack Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 They heard the co-pilot breathing. I call occam's razor here. Read on CNN (quoting NY Times, IIRC, possibly quoting a French source) that the flight deck door has three settings, open, normal (need keypad or ID card), and locked - nobody gets in. The article stated that for a pilot to faint and somehow slide the lever from normal to locked would be all but impossible. One hopes that further investigation will clear things up, and that the flight data recorder is found and usable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WNash Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 Conventional terror or not...it is still murder of 150 innocent people and fear put into other people around the world. If you want to kill yourself, do it quietly by yourself. Yeah, there have been a handful of likely pilot murder/suicides over the years. They're not talked about much, but to my mind they're some of the most horrible cases of mass murders by a single killer in history, making the horrors of famous serial killers look relatively inconsequential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 there's a full thread on this in Off topic. It was interesting that the first theory was a broken windshield....very sad. Days of pilots being alone in the cockpit are now likely over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#NoPoles Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 Cabelas opens in Berlin, MA today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 Please take your weather talk elsewhere sir. Good day! I said good day!! lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold Miser Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 Hideous black crow sky today (foggy, gray, and creepy). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugarloaf1989 Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 Excerpt from the CNN article regarding the crash: The horrific description seemed to leave the prosecutor at a loss for words. It is not being described as a "terrorist attack," and the killing of 150 people would generally not be described as a "suicide" either, Robin said. Lubitz was not known to be on any terrorism list, and his religion was not immediately known, Robin said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professional Lurker Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 I can't fathom it at all. I mean, if you want to whack yourself, have at it. ...but to take innocent people with you? I'm hoping that the co-pilot had some sort of an episode like a heart attack or something that incapacitated him. Sadly, that looks unlikely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 Decades ago, a JAL flight was brought down by a suicide pilot. People have psychotic breaks but fortunately they are rare in the cockpit. Didn't an Egypt air flight out of BOS go down this way about 10 years ago? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 42/40 here fog has lifted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 Decades ago, a JAL flight was brought down by a suicide pilot. People have psychotic breaks but fortunately they are rare in the cockpit. Didn't an Egypt air flight out of BOS go down this way about 10 years ago? Yeah the Egypt air flight was one I forgot...I had mentioned the Silk Air flight in 1997...Egypt air was 1999 I believe. Was off Long Island too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugarloaf1989 Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 Yeah the Egypt air flight was one I forgot...I had mentioned the Silk Air flight in 1997...Egypt air was 1999 I believe. Was off Long Island too. It was Egypt Air flight 990, thought to be pilot suicide as the plane dove into the Atlantic off Cape Cod in 1999. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Valley Snowman Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 Excerpt from the CNN article regarding the crash: The horrific description seemed to leave the prosecutor at a loss for words. It is not being described as a "terrorist attack," and the killing of 150 people would generally not be described as a "suicide" either, Robin said. Lubitz was not known to be on any terrorism list, and his religion was not immediately known, Robin said. that statement does not rule out terrorism by just saying that he was not well affiliated and his religion was unknown.He could have been a lone wolf or sympathetic towards terrorist causes or he could have just been a lunatic. We don't know yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 that statement does not rule out terrorism by just saying that he was not well affiliated and his religion was unknown.He could have been a lone wolf or sympathetic towards terrorist causes or he could have just been a lunatic. We don't know yet. if he didnt leave a letter or manifesto somewhere then we might never know if he was a terrorist or just a nut who wanted to go down in a blaze of (twisted) glory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 We, as a species, have developed "bigger and better" ways to off oneself over the years. In the 1970's a gunman would climb a tower and start shooting. Evolved into takingout a school/classroom Now planes... No other species does this. The Malaysia flight last year could have been a suicide as well, but we will never know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 Excerpt from the CNN article regarding the crash: The horrific description seemed to leave the prosecutor at a loss for words. It is not being described as a "terrorist attack," and the killing of 150 people would generally not be described as a "suicide" either, Robin said. Lubitz was not known to be on any terrorism list, and his religion was not immediately known, Robin said. I dunno -- most headlines (anyway) this hour read that it was deliberate, one way or the other. Not sure how one can extract terrorism conceptually from a deliberate act of genocide. Terrorism is terrorism, regardless of what motivates the macabre. Whether it was one rogue deviant, or a cadre operating within a sphere of insanity... doesn't matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 We, as a species, have developed "bigger and better" ways to off oneself over the years. In the 1970's a gunman would climb a tower and start shooting. Evolved into takingout a school/classroom Now planes... No other species does this. The Malaysia flight last year could have been a suicide as well, but we will never know We really suck. The concept of inflicting so much pain because of one's beliefs is primitive and really selfish. Flawed species. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 I dunno -- most headlines (anyway) this hour read that it was deliberate, one way or the other. Not sure how one can extract terrorism conceptually from a deliberate act of genocide. Terrorism is terrorism, regardless of what motivates the macabre. Whether it was one rogue deviant, or a cadre operating within a sphere of insanity... doesn't matter. Terrorism is usually defined by having political motives. A guy who just goes batsh** crazy and goes on a killing spree isn't considered terrorism. If this pilot just did this on his own with no real political motive, then they wouldn't classify it as terrorism. Semantics...yes. Still a terrible act either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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