klw Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 The washout in this video is impressive: https://www.wcax.com/2023/07/12/dozens-vermont-roads-remain-closed/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klw Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 https://forecast.weather.gov/product.php?site=BTV&issuedby=BTV&product=AFD&format=CI&version=1&glossary=1 Otherwise, damaging winds are the main threat, with large hail mainly confined to any rotating storms during the period. Damaging winds may be more likely to uproot trees in today`s event given saturated ground conditions areawide. Severe threat gradually wanes across central/ern VT late this evening as storms encounter weakening CAPE with onset of diurnal cooling cycle. We`ll need to watch the southern end of the potential convective line, where some of the CAMs output and HREF suggest best potential for training storms toward the end of the event this evening. Thinking most rainfall is in 0.75-1" range, but locally 1-1.5" and maybe localized 2" totals for Rutland/Windsor counties if storms take on more of an NE-SW orientation parallel to weakening deep-layer shear in the 00-03Z period this evening. Low Flash flood guidance values - a function of saturated antecedent soil conditions - of roughly 1.2-1.5" in 3 hours will potentially be exceeded with the type of intense rainfall that these thunderstorms can produce. As such, Flood Watch continues to look good, and will highlight greatest potential of flash flooding is in s-central VT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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tamarack Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 14 hours ago, HIPPYVALLEY said: I wouldn’t be buying a used car from anywhere in Vermont anytime soon… Maybe the worst event of that car-drowning sort was Groundhog Day 1976 at Bangor, when storm-force (and stronger) winds blew water up the Penobscot estuary, causing the water in downtown to rise 15 feet in 15 minutes, engulfing 200+ cars. Soon after the water level was back to normal, temps dropped from 57 to 1 and insurance company adjusters totaled every one of those vehicles. (Likely that some of those cars found a home on small used car lots. ) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamarack Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 5 hours ago, klw said: The washout in this video is impressive: https://www.wcax.com/2023/07/12/dozens-vermont-roads-remain-closed/ Reminds me of an earlier pic from New York, a blowout on Rt 218 between Cornwall and West Point. It was on a sidehill section, and the hole was about 5 feet deep on the uphill side, 20+ feet on the downhill, and 50-75 feet wide. Looked like a $100k fix (or more). In other news, Soules Hill Road in Jay, Maine remains closed 2 weeks after the 5-6" cloudburst. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
backedgeapproaching Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 15 hours ago, HIPPYVALLEY said: Crazy. Water can be terrifying, I can’t even imagine it inundating your house. Furniture ruined, carpets ruined, cars, furnaces, septic systems all ruined. Sheet rock and plaster water logged and becoming a mold hazard. I wouldn’t be buying a used car from anywhere in Vermont anytime soon… Yep, might want to check the carfax of any VT registered cars.. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishRob17 Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 7 minutes ago, tamarack said: Reminds me of an earlier pic from New York, a blowout on Rt 218 between Cornwall and West Point. It was on a sidehill section, and the hole was about 5 feet deep on the uphill side, 20+ feet on the downhill, and 50-75 feet wide. Looked like a $100k fix (or more). Rt 218 is a challenge to keep open due to its route on the side of Storm King Mountain. A man was killed in an avalanche along 218 during the blizzard in March '93. Shortly after that NYSDOT put up permanent gates on each side of the mountain section to close the road during heavy rain and snow events. Falling rocks/boulders are a somewhat regular occurrence as well. Its a great drive, and a commuter route for folks who work at West Point, they'll likely be closed for months. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamarack Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 9 minutes ago, IrishRob17 said: Rt 218 is a challenge to keep open due to its route on the side of Storm King Mountain. A man was killed in an avalanche along 218 during the blizzard in March '93. Shortly after that NYSDOT put up permanent gates on each side of the mountain section to close the road during heavy rain and snow events. Falling rocks/boulders are a somewhat regular occurrence as well. Its a great drive, and a commuter route for folks who work at West Point, they'll likely be closed for months. Sounds like a scenic route, in good weather. Many years ago (1972) my wife and I were driving home from skiing at the old Glen Ellen and chose to head south from Newburgh on 9W because I was too cheap to pay the toll on the Thruway. It was well after sunset and snowing moderately as we climbed and climbed, with land visible to our right in the headlights but just darkness to the left. After carefully going down the other side, my wife exclaimed, "I was scared riding over Storm King with my dad in sunlight!" I think it was Emerson (or Hawthorne) who wrote, "If ignorance is bliss, 'tis folly to be wise." 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrisrotary12 Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 1 hour ago, backedgeapproaching said: Yep, might want to check the carfax of any VT registered cars.. Here's hoping a gold nugget or two is in there. 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eskimo Joe Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 63 yr old man died in Barre in his home from the flood 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klw Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 2 minutes ago, Ginx snewx said: 63 yr old man died in Barre in his home from the flood https://vtdigger.org/2023/07/13/vermont-reports-first-flood-related-fatality/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STILL N OF PIKE Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 Flooding again ? Any radar estimates so far Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mreaves Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 53 minutes ago, STILL N OF PIKE said: Flooding again ? Any radar estimates so far The line seems to have hit the spine of the greens and broke up a bit. I was able to get 9 holes in between 5:00 and 6:30 or so. Heard some rumbles but no rain and no lightning until we were finishing up. It’s rained but not incredibly heavy rates here at least. I’ve gotten about .50. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 1 hour ago, STILL N OF PIKE said: Flooding again ? Any radar estimates so far Some scattered 1.5-2” footprints on a few PWS stations, primarily central and southern Greens, but mostly it seemed like 0.25”-1.00” rainfall in the mountain drainages. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIPPYVALLEY Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 1-1.5" in NW MA tonight with some flash flooding. Nothing outrageous but rivers will be running high again tomorrow. I imagine CT River will remain at minor flood stage through tomorrow night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TauntonBlizzard2013 Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 Nothing even close here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WxWatcher007 Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 54 minutes ago, HIPPYVALLEY said: 1-1.5" in NW MA tonight with some flash flooding. Nothing outrageous but rivers will be running high again tomorrow. I imagine CT River will remain at minor flood stage through tomorrow night. Holding high here for a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 12 minutes ago, WxWatcher007 said: Holding high here for a while. High water levels continue for the foreseeable future in many areas and rivers of New England. May not be newsworthy levels but the bulk of New England is pretty saturated, besides the SE desert. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIPPYVALLEY Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 2 minutes ago, powderfreak said: High water levels continue for the foreseeable future in many areas and rivers of New England. May not be newsworthy levels but the bulk of New England is pretty saturated, besides the SE desert. Streams and rivers were still high here today and then we dumped another 1" quickly tonight. I assume sections of VT saw similar rain tonight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 On 7/11/2023 at 7:20 AM, CoastalWx said: Pretty dire words coming from some dam Near Montpelier. She coming 3 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modfan2 Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 23 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said: She coming At some point yes, we are getting hit again. Due to the amount of tree growth since Hurricanes Gloria and Bob a strong Cat 1 would do significant tree damage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrisrotary12 Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 2 hours ago, Damage In Tolland said: She coming Kiss of death. Maybe next year. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 1 hour ago, Chrisrotary12 said: Kiss of death. Maybe next year. I've always carried a private qualm about that supposed 'drought'/32 year thing ... Whenever I hear/read that, I wonder ... 'yeah, what about all the TS that have swathed up through this region' I mean, they may not be hurricanes, per se - but does that matter? Perhaps it's too much philosophy for this forum ... but I don't think there's an "atmospheric distinction" between the two. There may be a statistical distinction, but first order statistics don't really describe any system ... I mean, one could sum up all the cumulative ISE from all these TS and say ... that = a smaller number of hurricanes. Boom, budget has been met. There may not be a drought really. There may be a drought in whether someone gets their drama-junky modeling drug rocks off from watching an ISE dripping bomb twirling its way across the MDR with tantalizing model implications for a L.I. express... Okay. But that's something else. Nature doesn't owe Joe Bastardi or anyone else that subscribes to the bate drama machine, jack shyster - 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 45 minutes ago, Typhoon Tip said: I've always carried a private qualm about that supposed 'drought'/32 year thing ... Whenever I hear/read that, I wonder ... 'yeah, what about all the TS that have swathed up through this region' I mean, they may not be hurricanes, per se - but does that matter? Perhaps it's too much philosophy for this forum ... but I don't think there's an "atmospheric distinction" between the two. There may be a statistical distinction, but first order statistics don't really describe any system ... I mean, one could sum up all the cumulative ISE from all these TS and say ... that = a smaller number of hurricanes. Boom, budget has been met. There may not be a drought really. There may be a drought in whether someone gets their drama-junky modeling drug rocks off from watching an ISE dripping bomb twirling its way across the MDR with tantalizing model implications for a L.I. express... Okay. But that's something else. Nature doesn't owe Joe Bastardi or anyone else that subscribes to the bate drama machine, jack shyster - It’s interesting looking at the historical climo of legit hurricane landfalls in New England. We had a VERY active period in the middle 20th century where we had 6 legit New England landfalls in roughly 50 years (and that doesn’t count close misses like the 1944 NYC hurricane or Gerda swiping ACK in 1969). But we had a similar lull to now back between the 1890s and the 1938 storm where we went over 40 years without a landfall and prior to that was very active in the 1850s-1890s. I always joke with Scott (CoastalWx) how the media is going to lose their proverbial shit when we have another active period for New England and east coast landfalls in general. The further away we get from that active middle 20th century period, the more the population becomes blissfully unaware of it. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoth Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 Lots of logs and other debris washing up on Fishers the last day or two. I assume it's detritus getting washed down the CT River. Looks a little like after a major nor’easter or weak cane, except there are no chunks of demolished docks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WxWatcher007 Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 Here in the Hartford area. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrianW Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 30 minutes ago, WxWatcher007 said: Here in the Hartford area. I was just reading on Facebook there are a ton of docks, boats, logs, etc floating out in the sound at the mouth of the CT. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 Where is the dock that had all the boats lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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