40/70 Benchmark Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 1 minute ago, ORH_wxman said: You can regenerate precip on a stalled system with spokes of vorticity going around the ULL...the precip just tends to be more localized as already mentioned. We saw this in march 2001 in spots in NH that got around 40 inches. The other way is to basically have completely separate waves along a stalled frontal boundary and in that case, the precip shields would remain much more robust...but then you are almost talking about more than one storm even if the snow is nearly continuous. Just north of my new location...I think Epping, NH was official jack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 1 minute ago, ORH_wxman said: You can regenerate precip on a stalled system with spokes of vorticity going around the ULL...the precip just tends to be more localized as already mentioned. We saw this in march 2001 in spots in NH that got around 40 inches. The other way is to basically have completely separate waves along a stalled frontal boundary and in that case, the precip shields would remain much more robust...but then you are almost talking about more than one storm even if the snow is nearly continuous. That's what I was thinking in my head too, but you do run into the separate systems if you can get the baroclinic zone to rebound. Hard to do that without a significant pause in the precip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 7 minutes ago, OceanStWx said: Boy a repeat of 1888 would feature some all time melts. Scooter with 1 inch while Will is digging out of 36". Scooter would've broken his oxen cart out of frustration. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 5 minutes ago, OceanStWx said: That's what I was thinking in my head too, but you do run into the separate systems if you can get the baroclinic zone to rebound. Hard to do that without a significant pause in the precip. Another way is an inverted trough. Rays favorite. But if you can get one to occur in the waning parts of a legit storm, it can add a lot. It's how PVD to ORH did so well in the 2/14/62 storm and I'm pretty sure at some point late feb '69 storm had one or two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spanks45 Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 1 hour ago, Ginx snewx said: lol how do you think Kev felt I lived in Middletown, DE at the time...I measured between 24-28 inches for this storm and most of it was gone by Christmas..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 1 hour ago, Ginx snewx said: Mansfield had 15.5 7 miles from Kev by crow flight, I remember that thread, he was BS over it, even Joey in Tolland had 10 No way he had 10”. He’s N of me by like 2 miles . Impossible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 33 minutes ago, Ginx snewx said: Lol I remember when you were going to move up there and you were asking us about upslope there Haha yep. Very happy with the choice! Wouldn't mind turning Vermont into a lake (nothing personal, I love Vermont), but this will do for the time being Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 1 minute ago, alex said: Haha yep. Very happy with the choice! Wouldn't mind turning Vermont into a lake (nothing personal, I love Vermont), but this will do for the time being Could probably settle for filing down the Greens a bit. They steal an awful lot of your snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 Man 1882 would make 12/92 look like a blizzard. Lots of objects and farm animals thrown and slaughtered. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 3 minutes ago, CoastalWx said: Man 1882 would make 12/92 look like a blizzard. Lots of objects and farm animals thrown and slaughtered. Man, a week later when the post finally arrived you would be so mad... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 Just now, OceanStWx said: Man, a week later when the post finally arrived you would be so mad... Me planting for this season’s crop while 4’9” New Yorkers buried to their nipples in paste. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 34 minutes ago, 40/70 Benchmark said: Just north of my new location...I think Epping, NH was official jack. I think Nottingham had the 40", but it may have been a bit inflated. Lots of 30"+ readings near the interior/coastal Rockingham CWA border though. Coastal front? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 3 minutes ago, dendrite said: I think Nottingham had the 40" Sheriff of? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 1 hour ago, Ginx snewx said: Its so so tough for ASOS to go S+, basically visibility has to be yards. Not really. +SN is fairly easy of the 1/4SM variety. 0SM vis you won't see at an automated station though and M1/4SM is really rare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 Just now, Ginx snewx said: Sheriff of? idk but I shot him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted December 18, 2018 Author Share Posted December 18, 2018 1882 ? ... Yeah, agree with Scott ... barring 'getting lucky' between now and then with one of these flat wave deal ...looks like the large scale tries to get more interesting nearing the first of the year. I rather like the PNA attempting to rise smartly through there...though as far as the GEFs nightly indices, that's pretty new ...also, talking nearing the end of week two so biding time. As far as the SSW... still prevalent in the modeling but keep in mind, two important distinctions need to be made of that: is it down-welling ... two weeks to twenty days for the average -AO correlation.. also as Will hinted ( I think it was..) we still also have to determine where the cold conveyors decide to align. I think of that as like a weeble wobble ... if the mid latitudes are in such a phase, it may weeble instead of wobble in our favor on this side of the hemisphere. However, even if it weeb's Europe-Eurasia first... as 2007 demoed when that epid -AO upended the warmer than normal January, the waves realigned and eventually established sloppy seconds over here and we got some corrective activity going. Lots and lots of moving parts with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mreaves Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 37 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said: Scooter would've broken his oxen cart out of frustration. Slamming the telegraph tapper in rage. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qg_omega Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 Close the shades until well after the new year, the melt downs are just beginning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUNNAWAYICEBERG Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 13 minutes ago, qg_omega said: Close the shades until well after the new year, the melt downs are just beginning We’re here for you. Just let it all out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 43 minutes ago, mreaves said: Slamming the telegraph tapper in rage. Funny...how would he know Worcester beat him so handidly? A telegram arrives in the mail some 10 days later...aunt Hilda laments the death of the crops in waist high drifts...scooter rips the telegram in two pieces and kicks a rooster lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
codfishsnowman Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 7 hours ago, cut said: Wasn't the forecast for like double that? yes, I lived in Bristol Ct at the time and picked up a quick 8 inches...right on the northern extent of the better snow......forecast up til that morning was 15-20, something didn't phase together I guess and a 24 hr event turned into a 6 hr one still a solid hit and it snowed briefly 3/hr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamarack Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 1 hour ago, OceanStWx said: Yeah, there aren't many ways to really get that done. Stall the system and remain in the narrow moisture flux is definitely one. But historical tales of widespread 4 ft monster blizzards are most likely exaggerations of our typical blockbusters. The extreme totals happen on a much more localized scale. March 1888 and February 1969 are likely the upper bounds of what a nor'easter can produce on a regional scale before petering out. And that's about the only similarity. 1888 dumped all its snow in a far shorter time than 1969, had far more wind, and gave some folks near-zero cold as well - can't think of another New England event that approaches that trifecta - maybe the 1978 OV blizzard could compete. '69 was Boston's "Hundred hour storm" and had temps not all that far below freezing (unless one was on the Rockpile.) If given a choice between the two, I'd say "Surprise me!" From what I've read, 1717 was something like 4 storms, 2 moderate and 2 big, in less than 2 weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 1 hour ago, alex said: Today just won't let up. Car is dusted up and covered again up this way. Snowing for like 28 hours now totaling like 3" . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 59 minutes ago, dendrite said: Not really. +SN is fairly easy of the 1/4SM variety. 0SM vis you won't see at an automated station though and M1/4SM is really rare. Only time I've seen M1/4 up here was Valentines Day 2007. Definitely rare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lava Rock Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 We should have expected this. We got spoliled last month. There was no way to go wire to wire. We'll all survive Close the shades until well after the new year, the melt downs are just beginningSent from my Pixel 2 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qg_omega Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 5 minutes ago, Lava Rock said: We should have expected this. We got spoliled last month. There was no way to go wire to wire. We'll all survive Sent from my Pixel 2 using Tapatalk It's very disappointing for the ski resorts, not everyone can take off or go up a weekend this month, was planning on next week but it's looking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 13 minutes ago, powderfreak said: Car is dusted up and covered again up this way. Snowing for like 28 hours now totaling like 3" . About 6" here but the stuff that's falling now is like the fake plastic snow you put on Xmas trees. It has zero weight to it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastonSN+ Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 1 hour ago, Spanks45 said: I lived in Middletown, DE at the time...I measured between 24-28 inches for this storm and most of it was gone by Christmas..... You can tell the Bridgeport report carved out in SW CT. West and east of it more snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterWolf Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 3 hours ago, dendrite said: At least we’ve already gained 2 minutes of daylight in the evening. Still losing in the morning though for another few days lol... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoth Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 One wonders if the upper bound on one of those extreme systems is a bit higher in the present climate. More available moisture, higher water temp anomalies, etc. What would a repeat of 1888 max out at now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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