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41 minutes ago, CoastalWx said:

He had a good post. Deniers are terrible, but that misinformation spewed about is just as bad when policies are made around fear.

It's an indictment of the media when these climate scientists feel like they need to produce these hyperbolic quotes that have nothing to do with the study at hand. The guy's study was about temperatures and sea level rise... the Globe focused on the worst case scenario from modeling and his quotes were just off. I get that it's hard to relate something that abstract like 0.7 degrees C to the public but there's gotta be a better way.

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1 hour ago, CoastalWx said:

He had a good post. Deniers are terrible, but that misinformation spewed about is just as bad when policies are made around fear.

Completely agree.  I was thinking of the rant that Nikolai went on a while ago after someone questioned his prediction record cold and snow for all because of warming in the Arctic.

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17 hours ago, ORH_wxman said:

Had it back in November. Awful. 

I had it a year ago this week ironically ... 

Norwalk I think it's called ... Mainly belly and below... In and out in 24 to 30 yours, with lingering apathy and/or disinterest in food in general for another 2 or 3 days more... 

Hopefully what you guys describe is that particular version just circling back around...  cuz no mortal other than perhaps Idi Amin or Adolf Hitler deserves that schit certainly not again so soon!

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29 minutes ago, mreaves said:

Completely agree.  I was thinking of the rant that Nikolai went on a while ago after someone questioned his prediction record cold and snow for all because of warming in the Arctic.

I'm still waiting for my roof to collapse from too much snow...

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Yeah... okay.  

Buuuut... careful not to knee jerk spurn the findings of the climate folk/modeling, and/or make fun of it just the same.

I think an open mind is the best approach ?  

That means one should not fear monger... which is unfortunately the plight of the modern concerned citizen, that they be faked out by fake news and/or histrionics that are routinely plied to garner ratings in the "Industrial Media Complex..."   (roll-eyes.. if ur with me).  

However, that said ... it equally means that the truth of the warming climate shall/should not be denied; and that ... it can't warm forever and expect it not to begin to effect change in seasonal expectation ...even at our latitude... That's a reality that kind of gets lost in the din of those argument points.. 

And I don't accept the typical counter argument to that, being that we are talking 100 years ....blah blah ... we'll be dead anyway.  That's inCREdibly irresponsible to Humanity - if the core impetus is time, not sure I see the purpose of spurning the findings.  Inevitability is inevitability... The point of closing in on that destination is what is paramount. 

I suppose it's philosophically valid to argue for nihilism ... and stick a middle finger to the heavens for imposing finality to mortals, and party now - ... heh.  Maybe if a some hapless soul wondering through the smoldering aftermath of scarcity and dystopian sloth comes across an epitaph of our times, he/she will read that sentiment and say, '...Meh, cant's say I blame them; we're all f anyway'

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... also, "denier" 

I have a problem with that term's use when it comes to the subject matter at hand, and it's a matter of distinction... 

There are different 'forms' of denial.   There's denying some finding in order to test the veracity of said conclusion... That's fine. That's scientific.  Finding need to be tested, and corroborated by other people ...such that a consensus becomes undeniable.  

But that is not what is (apparently) happening with climate skepticism...  It's not denial for the purpose....it's denial because folks can't seem to face it... 

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3 hours ago, HIPPYVALLEY said:

Drove Greenfield to St Johnsbury earlier, I can confirm there is no snow cover in VT outside of the Greens. 

It was shocking!

From the pic u posted this morning it looks like u have 2- 3" or so. More than that magical place known as God's country ?

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13 hours ago, Damage In Tolland said:

Since he won't apologize,, I apologize on his behalf. Sorry he offended you. Is your husband upset at him too?

 

13 hours ago, CoastalWx said:

Hopefully you get some more mansnow to rebuild the base you lost.

Only boys grown taller. If you wanna "man up", an open invitation to find snow. We'll grab an extra setup and we can head into the mountains together, take turns breaking trail.  Let's see how we stack up, eh?  Until then, keep looking into a computer screen, or out a window, and keep talking..  

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4 minutes ago, ono said:

 

Only boys grown taller. If you wanna "man up", an open invitation to find snow. We'll grab an extra setup and we can head into the mountains together, take turns breaking trail.  Let's see how we stack up, eh?  Until then, keep looking into a computer screen, or out a window, and keep talking..  

I'd love to meet up, but I don't want to leave you behind in the glades or anything like that. :(

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16 minutes ago, CoastalWx said:

I'd love to meet up, but I don't want to leave you behind in the glades or anything like that. :(

You'll definitely leave me behind on your many laps in the glades because we don't ski glades. We ski the "woods" or the "trees" as glades are trail map markers. Seriously, though- open invitation. Come. Try. Last time we went out in the woods, a girl kept up pretty damn well for her first rodeo- better than most guys in the same situation. And one caveat- the volume of voice before has a strong positive correlation to the likelihood of a humbling outcome thereafter.

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46 minutes ago, ono said:

You'll definitely leave me behind on your many laps in the glades because we don't ski glades. We ski the "woods" or the "trees" as glades are trail map markers. Seriously, though- open invitation. Come. Try. Last time we went out in the woods, a girl kept up pretty damn well for her first rodeo- better than most guys in the same situation. And one caveat- the volume of voice before has a strong positive correlation to the likelihood of a humbling outcome thereafter.

:lol: I'd be bear meat. Been awhile since I hit the slopes. Hoping next season to try and get my son into it.

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On 1/13/2017 at 0:32 AM, ono said:

yeah, beat on vicarious chest watching models of the Sierra once-in-ten-year. But it's not so bad actually going up for a hike up a mountain ski that "4" of bullsh*t like a real man/woman and enjoy it. But we'll have none of that, here. Armchair, lift chair and car seats only, boys.   sorry, but the "man snow" comment speaks to a boys clubby BS 'round here that just doesn't sit. Half the population doesn't really seem to have an interest in participating. We could call "man snow" just "snow" or " a lot of snow"

Seems small, and I don't want to single anyone out... but there's hundreds of guys on this website and how many women? Maybe there's a reason they don't participate. Just a thought.

The same reason conversational terms such as balls/Cojones has a positive connotation and p*ssy has a negative connotation. It's pervasive in today's world that when using gender related terms, man is good and woman is bad, or never as good. Welcome to the world of woman. It's an uphill battle for my gender in a male dominated society. Best advice, if you want to know if a thought or phrase concerning gender is ass backwards concerning gender- take whatever it was you were going to say and write it on a piece of paper. If you can't say it to your own wife or your own  mother, or if you would never want a man to say it to your daughter, then that's a very good sign it should not be said to any other woman.

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19 hours ago, CT Rain said:

Yup... and it's the catchy phrases like "remember when we used to get snow" that they'll use to get media attention. That seems to be where the science gets forgotten in a play for media coverage. 

Clearly, this guy has never been to Lunenburg.

 

Got down to 9* here in Bath, 11* at the Pit.  It's nice too feel like winter in any case.

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On 1/13/2017 at 0:32 AM, ono said:

yeah, beat on vicarious chest watching models of the Sierra once-in-ten-year. But it's not so bad actually going up for a hike up a mountain ski that "4" of bullsh*t like a real man/woman and enjoy it. But we'll have none of that, here. Armchair, lift chair and car seats only, boys.   sorry, but the "man snow" comment speaks to a boys clubby BS 'round here that just doesn't sit. Half the population doesn't really seem to have an interest in participating. We could call "man snow" just "snow" or " a lot of snow"

Seems small, and I don't want to single anyone out... but there's hundreds of guys on this website and how many women? Maybe there's a reason they don't participate. Just a thought.

I have 8 kids and 17 grandkids and have respect for each and treat them as equals .You getting butt hurt about "man snow" is about silly as it gets. Every where I go personally, work or home ,people are treated as equals.I don't know your personal situation. Obviously inequalities exist in your life and many others , but there is also a lot of made up faux outrage. I will stick up for Scott here, it's a colloquial saying and has no negative connotation towards women. I am sure you know Men tend to be much more rougher and less refined than women. It's simply an indication of the ragged rough type of snow. More importantly there is no such thing as women snow which further indicates the term is indeed gender specific not to be construed as a slight towards women. You obviously have an issue with Scott but take it from me. You won't find a better person to be a Father,husband. Of course It's your right to bring up gender issues when appropriate but in in this case give me a break.

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Well this thread is totally derailed. Let's hope Feb provides more meteorologically pertinent intrigue. Since we've gone down the rabbit hole, let's attempt a "Tippy" rant. There's a certain vein of irony beneath the lamentation about "male-dominated" society in that at the most fundamental level, virtually all male competition for economic or reputational advancement masks a desire for female validation. Men who have no extraordinary charm or aesthetic gifts feel they must excel professionally to attract a mate. They don't work long hours in often degrading jobs out of a love of drudgery. Additionally, at least traditionally, men felt that as women bear a disproportionately high cost in reproduction, they ought to provide a comfortable living. Times change, and I of course welcome full female engagement in the workplace and elsewhere. I've worked with three exceptionally gifted female CEOs who never failed to amaze me with their intellectual and managerial gifts. there are more female admittances to b and law schools now than men, which will ultimately be expressed in C suite demographics. There may be a few men out there who feel threatened by female encroachment on their traditional turf, perhaps feeling emasculated or tautologous as they have no value-added anymore, but they are a small minority.  Hell, women dont even need a mate anymore with donor DNA for purchase. And while people applaud a woman who is both mother and worker, society still looks askance at a stay at home father, as if he's a freeloader. Anyway, Tippy rant over. Let's get back on this horrible torch bandwagon. 

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22 hours ago, ORH_wxman said:

That's awesome...they are predicting 0.7C of average temp rise by 2025....almost 0.1C per year.

 

I liked this quote though:

“I tell my students that they’re going to be able to tell their children, ‘I remember when it used to snow in Boston,’ ” said Ray Bradley, an author of the study and director of the Climate System Research Center at the University of Massachusetts. “We’ll have occasional snow, but we won’t have weeks and weeks of snow on the ground.”

 

Unfortunately, this is the kind of quote people remember when the next January 2011, December 2007, January 2009, February 2014, and February 2015 happens in the year 2027.

Sounds like he is describing a typical winter lol. How often does Boston have "weeks and weeks" of snow on the ground.

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