IDA remnants OBS-nowcasts (storm total rain and/or unusual flooding, wind damage-power outage, gusts ~45+ MPH) Wed-Thu morning Sept 1-2, 2021

[sojitodd]

2 minutes ago, BucksCO_PA said:

In 1953 Worcester was hit by an F5 tornado 

I don't believe it was ever an official F-5. I think it was high end F-4. I think there has been debate and it was considered and reevaluated but was left as a high end F-4. 

 

Unbelievable what NYC has been going through. Breaking the 1 hour rainfall record at Central Park, and then shortly after shattering the new record. Damn!

[Stormlover74]

Not the Mullica hill tornado

 

 

[BucksCO_PA]

12 minutes ago, sojitodd said:

I don't believe it was ever an official F-5. I think it was high end F-4. I think there has been debate and it was considered and reevaluated but was left as a high end F-4. 

 

Unbelievable what NYC has been going through. Breaking the 1 hour rainfall record at Central Park, and then shortly after shattering the new record. Damn!

Thanks, apparently there was a strong case to be made that F5 damage occurred around the Assumption College area. 

[Brian5671]

4 minutes ago, Stormlover74 said:

Not the Mullica hill tornado

 

 

Wow.  My folks are about 5 miles from there.   An area about 20 miles east of there was hit by the late July outbreak too.

[LibertyBell]

24 minutes ago, tamarack said:

Ironic for the SNJ branch of our family.  They lived in "real" tornado country (Decatur, IL) for 5 years before moving to Gloucester County in 2015, about 6 miles from the tornado.  They had a baby spinner a few miles from the DEC house, but now an EF3 (my guess) far closer than any major tornados to their old place.

I think this would be the second EF3 of the summer (the first one was also in the Philly area.)

[LibertyBell]

1 minute ago, Brian5671 said:

Wow.  My folks are about 5 miles from there.   An area about 20 miles east of there was hit by the late July outbreak too.

Was that the one that caused the first EF3 of the summer?  It ripped up a Home Depot and mall.

 

[Stormlover74]

2 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

Was that the one that caused the first EF3 of the summer?  It ripped up a Home Depot and mall.

 

I believe that was in Bristol Bucks County 

[Brian5671]

9 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

Was that the one that caused the first EF3 of the summer?  It ripped up a Home Depot and mall.

 

 

6 minutes ago, Stormlover74 said:

I believe that was in Bristol Bucks County 

yep-I was down there last month-it was near the turnpike and hit a car dealership and some other buildings.   More of a commercial area.  Not sure if there was a Home depot/mall

[forkyfork]

all the abandoned cars i'm seeing means lots of people went out driving despite the warnings 

[MJO812]

Courtesy of NYC Fire Wire

 

Major Deegan

[matt8204]

3 minutes ago, forkyfork said:

all the abandoned cars i'm seeing means lots of people went out driving despite the warnings 

You can't reason with some people.  I don't understand why you would even want to be out in such miserable conditions.  I left work and arrived home before things went downhill but if I had stayed late, I probably would have just sucked it up and stayed there for the night.  I always keep snacks in my desk and I could have just fooled around on the internet or my phone to pass the time.  Better than venturing into a storm after dark.

[tamarack]

29 minutes ago, BucksCO_PA said:

Thanks, apparently there was a strong case to be made that F5 damage occurred around the Assumption College area. 

The EF4 decision was based on the assumption (no pun intended) that the houses on Uncatena Avenue were of substandard construction.  It looked like classic "5" destruction there - slab foundations swept clean and debris so scattered and reduced as to make it impossible to know from which houses it came, or if it even came from houses rather than a lumber yard.  The massive masonry walls of a large building on that college campus were crushed in by the wind, and I've not seen such damage elsewhere from anything less than a 5.

[NJwx85]

1 hour ago, LibertyBell said:

Have there been F4 in CT and MA? I wonder how they occurred so far north?

1953 Worcester tornado was rated F4 under the old rating system.

[forkyfork]

[donsutherland1]

The flood begins in Mamaroneck, NY last night:

 

[Gravity Wave]

53 minutes ago, tamarack said:

The EF4 decision was based on the assumption (no pun intended) that the houses on Uncatena Avenue were of substandard construction.  It looked like classic "5" destruction there - slab foundations swept clean and debris so scattered and reduced as to make it impossible to know from which houses it came, or if it even came from houses rather than a lumber yard.  The massive masonry walls of a large building on that college campus were crushed in by the wind, and I've not seen such damage elsewhere from anything less than a 5.

Either way, it was a hugely anomalous event. The only EF5 tornado ever recorded in the Northeast was the 1985 Wheatland - Hermitage tornado in far western PA. No EF-4 has ever been recorded in the vicinity of Philadelphia.

[BucksCO_PA]

1 hour ago, LibertyBell said:

Was that the one that caused the first EF3 of the summer?  It ripped up a Home Depot and mall.

 

The July EF-3 hit the Trevose section of Bensalem Township. The F3 damage occurred at a car dealership & neighboring mobile home park. This is the strongest tornado on record to hit Bucks County.

Yesterday Bristol was hit by confirmed tornado that originated in S. Jersey.

[dWave]

2 hours ago, Snowlover11 said:

traffic was a nightmare this morning leaving work what should be a 5-10 minute drive home, took me over an hour and 30 mins to get home.

Yeah..still is. The sunshine is deceiving. In early afternoon the major deegan was still flooded with lines and lines of cars and trucks abandoned in the water. Also additional runoff out of Van Courtlandt Park and down from Westchester was flowing onto the highway. Bx River Pkwy looks similar still.  I had to drive a little I stuck to local streets.

[LibertyBell]

21 minutes ago, dWave said:

Yeah..still is. The sunshine is deceiving. In early afternoon the major deegan was still flooded with lines and lines of cars and trucks abandoned in the water. Also additional runoff out of Van Courtlandt Park and down from Westchester was flowing onto the highway. Bx River Pkwy looks similar still.  I had to drive a little I stuck to local streets.

The last time I heard about people abandoning cars like this was Boxing Day 2010.

 

[Stormlover74]

 

 

[Stormlover74]

Awful

 

 

[FPizz]

 

[Brian5671]

15 minutes ago, FPizz said:

 

Smart.  Its tempting to stay and get video but dangerous.

[donsutherland1]

From Mamaroneck, NY:

 

[Rjay]

6 hours ago, Allsnow said:

Way too many people out on the roads last night. I thought the nws and local media did a great job explaining the dangers 

 

3 hours ago, forkyfork said:

all the abandoned cars i'm seeing means lots of people went out driving despite the warnings 

And people, including our politicians are still blaming the mets.  It's ridiculous.   

[forkyfork]

1 minute ago, Rjay said:

 

And people, including our politicians are still blaming the mets.  It's ridiculous.   

we all got phone alerts saying it was a life threatening situation. there's also the issue of people who were likely forced to be at work 

[Rjay]

3 minutes ago, forkyfork said:

we all got phone alerts saying it was a life threatening situation. there's also the issue of people who were likely forced to be at work 

I made sure my entire staff left by 5:30 (which was fine around here)

[nycsnow]

 

[weathermedic]

41 minutes ago, forkyfork said:

we all got phone alerts saying it was a life threatening situation. there's also the issue of people who were likely forced to be at work 

Let's not forget the masterminds behind deciding to keep the U.S. Open from canceling the evening covered stadium sessions. After which, people had to walk through 1-2 feet of water to get to their cars in the parking lots to go nowhere because the Grand Central Parkway, Van Wyck Expy and Whitestone Expy were all flooded. 

[Intensewind002]

Seeing some of the aftermath now, i think the effects from PTC Ida is arguably worse than either Irene or Floyd for the nyc metro area…. Sandy probably not but I can’t believe how high the death toll is getting