HIPPYVALLEY Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 Tip has a thread going for end of week system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bostonseminole Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 1 hour ago, weathafella said: Over 0.5 qpf occurs before H7 taints. maybe even more.. 0.75" in many areas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
das Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 3 hours ago, MegaMike said: No. Public websites keep snowfall calculations simple because 1) scripting Cobb's/Dube's algorithm is too computationally expensive 2) in the end, it doesn't matter which algorithm you utilize for forecasts or 3) they can't write the script. Besides what I wrote above regarding positive snow depth, 10:1 ratios is easier to compute: a) If they use a precipitation type algorithm (csnowsfc is boolean wrt snow-> 1==snow, 0==not snow): snowfall = csnowsfc*LWE*10. For snowfall, precipitation type algorithms perform well... Diagnosing mixed precipitation type is problematic though. Here's an article that provides results using "observed" data: https://journals.ametsoc.org/view/journals/apme/55/8/jamc-d-16-0044.1.xm. Go to Table 1. b) If they use microphysics scheme output (SR is continuous -> from 1==all frozen precipitation to 0==no frozen precipitation): SR*LWE*10. You occasionally....... Nice post. And great link to the Reeves paper. For those of you interested in helping numerical weather prediction to iterate to better outcomes by aligning this this math and code with observed data, do your citizen science part and use mPING to submit your real-time obs. These next couple of dynamic storms will be a great opportunity to gather good data on the morphology of precipitation types. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 Vortex comes back in the US. People said winter is over lol 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterWolf Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 31 minutes ago, MJO812 said: Vortex comes back in the US. People said winter is over lol Well just like this morning...someone showing an op run at 342hrs., is worthless. I know folks showed the same thing a day ago for winter being over...which was super dumb too. All speculation. More winter to come period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 3 hours ago, MJO812 said: Vortex comes back in the US. People said winter is over lol An op run? Lol. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 20 minutes ago, CoastalWx said: An op run? Lol. 342hr GFS ...even for him that is desperate. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 Models show the parade going for two weeks. Widespread 2.5-3.50" water equivalent as 10:1 snow on some of these runs. Chances are certainly there. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorEastermass128 Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 4 minutes ago, powderfreak said: Models show the parade going for two weeks. Widespread 2.5-3.50" water equivalent as 10:1 snow on some of these runs. Chances are certainly there. Big difference vs. V3. Anyway, let’s see what happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 1 minute ago, NorEastermass128 said: Big difference vs. V3. Anyway, let’s see what happens. Yeah that has the gradient a little further north splitting New England into civil war. But there's no shortage of shortwaves moving through every like 72 hours for like two weeks straight, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 14 minutes ago, powderfreak said: Models show the charade going for two weeks. fyp 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhineasC Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 18 minutes ago, powderfreak said: Models show the parade going for two weeks. Widespread 2.5-3.50" water equivalent as 10:1 snow on some of these runs. Chances are certainly there. Another 30 on top of the 30 already on the ground sounds nice. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mahk_webstah Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 we ain't done. maybe we just getting started... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUNNAWAYICEBERG Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 We’ve had a great first 10 days of Feb down here but it’s time to pass the baton back to cne and nne. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 Yeah I'll sell the v16. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted February 15, 2021 Author Share Posted February 15, 2021 YTD snow. Maine coast yikes 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold Miser Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 The recent 2+ weeks of winter have been nice, plus a good week in mid December, and the bonus Halloween snows, but our 4 weeks max allowable of winter weather is coming to an end. Thoughts of spring and a non eventful severe season are in the air. Until next year, thanks to all of those who helped make it possible. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torch Tiger Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 4 hours ago, Cold Miser said: The recent 2+ weeks of winter have been nice, plus a good week in mid December, and the bonus Halloween snows, but our 4 weeks max allowable of winter weather is coming to an end. Thoughts of spring and a non eventful severe season are in the air. Until next year, thanks to all of those who helped make it possible. you bet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted February 15, 2021 Author Share Posted February 15, 2021 There are actually people talking about winter being over and tanning the nape bahaha. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 How long does one believe winter will last on Feb 15 ? Yeah, winter is "almost over" - deal with it... That said, it's compounded by the complete break down of the erstwhile -AO, toward the positive mode, while the PNA is collapsing negative. These operational runs do little to offset the veracious and rational acceptance of those weightier signals/indices ... Additionally, no one said this was right away either... This was slated for March. It was March possibly flipping the script to an above normal/ spring-like month. It's not like people are trying sell a dog shit taco to Julia Child in this.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted February 15, 2021 Author Share Posted February 15, 2021 5 minutes ago, Typhoon Tip said: How long does one believe winter will last on Feb 15 ? Yeah, winter is "almost over" - deal with it... That said, it's compounded by the complete break down of the erstwhile -AO, toward the positive mode, while the PNA is collapsing negative. These operational runs do little to offset the veracious and rational acceptance of those weightier signals/indices ... Additionally, no one said this was right away either... This was slated for March. It was March possibly flipping the script to an above normal/ spring-like month. It's not like people are trying sell a dog shit taco to Julia Child in this.. Mid March is usually when winter ends here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 2/22 still showing up on euro/eps. Get that one to dig just a little more and it would prob be a nice miller B Tip-NJ model storm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 Greenland ridge trying to come back, but the west is blue from AK to CA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted February 15, 2021 Author Share Posted February 15, 2021 2 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said: 2/22 still showing up on euro/eps. Get that one to dig just a little more and it would prob be a nice miller B Tip-NJ model storm. Nah winters over Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted February 15, 2021 Author Share Posted February 15, 2021 2 minutes ago, CoastalWx said: Greenland ridge trying to come back, but the west is blue from AK to CA. Remember when Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted February 15, 2021 Author Share Posted February 15, 2021 10 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said: 2/22 still showing up on euro/eps. Get that one to dig just a little more and it would prob be a nice miller B Tip-NJ model storm. Nice piece of energy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George001 Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 Disclaimer- the following is an amateurs analysis of the upcoming pattern in March. I am trying to learn more so I welcome all constructive criticism, as it will help me make better forecasts. My goal is to learn enough to make winter forecasts like some of the more experienced members of the board. This winter has been pretty good for me in the foxborough area so far, much better than most winter forecasts predicted. I have been following the long range forecasts and it appears the polar vortex is expected to re consolidate, now the question that will determine whether winter ends or we get another 4-6 weeks or so (prob closer to 4 but late March even can’t be ruled out), is where will the polar vortex go when it re strengthens? If it ends up over central to western Canada like some of the models are showing we will probably have more snow threats but since that is more west we will likely be fighting ptype issues, as is typical in March. If it goes over the North Pole winter is likely over and we will see record warmth. If it goes farther south in southern central Canada we could see multiple blizzards with record breaking cold and the potential for the Boston area to double its yearly avg snowfall. Based on my analysis of both the models and the current pattern drivers, I am of the belief that we will indeed see 4-6 more weeks of winter with multiple Miller Bs delivering several feet of snow to Eastern Mass. I don’t buy the early spring calls, while we had a rough stretch between the December storm and late jan, it appears that the strong La Niña in place has taken over and is now dominating the pattern. We had a record warm pacific in the early part of winter, but the strong La Niña has done its work to cool the pacific down and allow Canadian air masses to spread farther south and east since there isn’t as much mild pacific air to modify them anymore, which led to our storm threats this week and the historic ice storm in the Deep South. That La Niña hasn’t gone anywhere, and will continue to influence our pattern in March. With the pacific now having been cooled down by our La Niña, combined with the seasonal transition that occurs during March, I see a month with wild temp swings, a battle between an anomalously strong ridge in the southeast and equally anomalous frigid air straight from the North Pole spilling into the northern tier of the country. This extreme contrast in temperatures should create a boundary where storms will form, and it will help juice them up. Due to the southeast ridge in place these storms aren’t going out to sea. In fact I am of the belief that storms will initially try to cut to Ohio, but will run into a brick wall in the form of a frigid, snowpack enhanced arctic airmass and will then reform to the south, rapidly gaining strength due to the southeast ridge enhanced warm waters, coming up the coast and throwing record breaking amounts of moisture into a frigid arctic airmass sitting over New England. This is a Miller b pattern that I believe we will see quite often in March, with a perfect storm of seasonal transition, La Niña, and climate change enhanced thermal gradient allowing lows to rapidly deepen to the 950s and even 940s, hurricane force lows bringing extreme wind to Eastern Mass and several feet of snow PER STORM. These Miller bs will bring blizzard conditions to the Boston area while DC is raining. I do not expect the deep snowpack to last long, with some days having the warm air winning the battle bringing us into the 60s and 70s, with several of these days especially in the latter half of March being sandwiched between historic Miller B blizzards with temps in the teens. When all is said and done, I predict 80-90 inches of snow for the year in the Boston Area. what do you guys think about the rest of winter and my analysis? I haven’t been this excited about a winter stretch since March 2018, and before that Feb 2015. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78Blizzard Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 James, are you out there...? 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78Blizzard Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 I will say this about that 18z GFS run - that is one cold Canadian air mass near the end of that run, with temps in C Manitoba getting to -50°F to -55°F at night and not getting above -20°F for days at the beginning of March. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 GEFS and GFS op have a good pattern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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