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November 2019 General Discussions & Observations Thread

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58 minutes ago, NYCweatherNOW said:

Coldest morning thus far, 40 degrees going down to 38! Very crisp out here... 

...out here on ELI..

KFOK @ 27*..

Eastport 28.7*..

this year we seemed to go straight to a hard freeze without any frosty mornings.

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It would be something if portions of the region see another early season snow event next week. We probably need to get this under 120 hrs to know for sure. But the air mass behind the low will be the coldest of the season so far.

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Wow. 34. First frost. What’s left of the tomatoes and eggplant seem to be ok. Love to see how deep into the season I can get stuff to produce. 

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11 minutes ago, tdp146 said:

Wow. 34. First frost. What’s left of the tomatoes and eggplant seem to be ok. Love to see how deep into the season I can get stuff to produce. 

Mine are still out there too. To my surprise they started growing again in mid Oct, even bearing a few new tomatoes.  My neighbor took his out a while ago, but once I saw mine growing again I'm curious to see how it goes. I have peppers too but despite their tropical orgins they usually do well deep into fall. 

Coldest low of the season so far here, down to 40. 

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1 hour ago, bluewave said:

It would be something if portions of the region see another early season snow event next week. We probably need to get this under 120 hrs to know for sure. But the air mass behind the low will be the coldest of the season so far.

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GEFS also has a storm signal. Yes it is November but it can still snow down here. I think we all have a chance of flakes but the inland areas especially interior sections of NY and SNE has a greater chance.

Let's get this further south so we all have a chance of some snow. Epo do your magic =)

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32 minutes ago, Snow88 said:

GEFS also has a storm signal. Yes it is November but it can still snow down here. I think we all have a chance of flakes but the inland areas especially interior sections of NY and SNE has a greater chance.

Let's get this further south so we all have a chance of some snow. Epo do your magic =)

Yeah, we’ll probably have to wait until under 120 hrs for a reliable storm track forecast. But the cold looks impressive either way. The Euro and GFS have early season 20’s for NYC behind the low. It would be another case of repeating weather patterns. This happened 2 years ago around the same dates.

NYC record lows 

11/9 24 in 1976 28 in 1971 29 in 2003+
11/10 25 in 2017 27 in 1914 29 in 2004+
11/11 24 in 2017 28 in 1933 28 in 1926+

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3 minutes ago, bluewave said:

Yeah, we’ll probably have to wait until under 120 hrs for a reliable storm track forecast. But the cold looks impressive either way. The Euro and GFS have early season 20’s for NYC behind the low. It would be another case of repeating weather patterns. This happened 2 years ago around the same dates.

NYC record lows 

11/9 24 in 1976 28 in 1971 29 in 2003+
11/10 25 in 2017 27 in 1914 29 in 2004+
11/11 24 in 2017 28 in 1933 28 in 1926+

Lets just hope another (potential) early season snowfall doesn't give us a repeat of last winter.

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1 hour ago, Snow88 said:

GEFS also has a storm signal. Yes it is November but it can still snow down here. I think we all have a chance of flakes but the inland areas especially interior sections of NY and SNE has a greater chance.

Let's get this further south so we all have a chance of some snow. Epo do your magic =)

That -epo usually shunts the storm track more south... regardless everybody could get on the action! Just my satoshis

 

p.s starting tomorrow models come out an hour earlier

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1 hour ago, Snow88 said:

GEFS also has a storm signal. Yes it is November but it can still snow down here. I think we all have a chance of flakes but the inland areas especially interior sections of NY and SNE has a greater chance.

Let's get this further south so we all have a chance of some snow. Epo do your magic =)

It snowed in October and we've had frequent November snows lately so I don't question the possibility.

EPO alone may not do the trick, you usually need some PNA/NAO help especially this early in the season.

What's likely is that everyone will fall into the 20s by next Saturday. Highs may even get stuck in the 30s. A very abrupt end to the growing season.

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the average November max and min for NYC since 1870 is 70/26...here are the last ten Novembers max/min's and some other years...

year.....max.....min

2019.....71.....

2018.....71.....15

2017.....74.....24

2016.....72.....34

2015.....74.....32

2014.....68.....22

2013.....70.....23

2012.....66.....31

2011.....70.....36

2010.....65.....34

2009.....69.....35

2003.....79.....29

1998.....63.....36

1993.....80.....29

1987.....77.....18

1978.....70.....24

1976.....61.....17

1967.....65.....20

1960.....69.....30

1959.....73.....21

1950.....84.....28

1875.....63...….7

1873.....58.....21

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43 minutes ago, Snow88 said:

Euro came south with the storm for next weekend and gives areas to the north and west of NYC  a few inches.

 

Euro also gives Manhattan and the Bronx a couple of inches and several inches just north of 287

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5 minutes ago, NYCweatherNOW said:

Euro also gives Manhattan and the Bronx a couple of inches and several inches just north of 287

Eps is also really close. 

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30 degrees for low last night if the models are remotely close to the cold there showing in the next 10 days or so it's going to be very hard for November to finish with a positive departure no matter what happens the end of the month. I'm loving that Aleutian low that looks to have staying power on the ensenbles. So we're basically in a negative EPO / positive PNA positive AO and Nao pattern going forward. the latter in part due to the polar vortex taking up shop in hudson bay/ southeast Canada.  a pattern like this would be fine by me for the winter

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It's good to see the cold on our side of the globe with the record lows out west and possibly record lows in much of the East if the models are correct next weekend. I wonder if the low solar is having an impact on Temps this fall and will it carry over to winter? I'm hearing this is a lower minimum than 2008 and the lowest minimum since they've been keeping records

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