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December 2025 regional war/obs/disco thread


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54 minutes ago, CoastalWx said:

Looks like the EPS is reloading after mid month. Maybe we get a moderation at that time but if true, may bode well for the holidays. 

I realize the following comment's likely to catapult me into the top ranked popularity seeding but ... winter sputters in January this year. Possibly early on too.  Canonical thaw struggles to reset and then its flower February

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18 minutes ago, Typhoon Tip said:

I realize the following comment's likely to catapult me into the top ranked popularity seeding but ... winter sputters in January this year. Possibly early on too.  Canonical thaw struggles to reset and then its flower February

I know some people have canceled winter by mid January, I guess we’ll see. I’m not sure I agree with that yet.

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53 minutes ago, Typhoon Tip said:

I realize the following comment's likely to catapult me into the top ranked popularity seeding but ... winter sputters in January this year. Possibly early on too.  Canonical thaw struggles to reset and then its flower February

Based on what

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1 hour ago, Typhoon Tip said:

I realize the following comment's likely to catapult me into the top ranked popularity seeding but ... winter sputters in January this year. Possibly early on too.  Canonical thaw struggles to reset and then its flower February

I wouldn’t hate it. If we are just going to follow the same pattern as the last several years, an early warmup would be nice 

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EPS is def more aggressive than other guidance trying to get a few inches in here on Saturday. 

A potential bigger threat would be middle of next week around the 10th-11th....but that one is all over the place. 

 

Lets see if we can amplify that ridge a little more out west....because we have a nice -NAO and some low heights in SE Canada which bodes well for actually trying to hold a high in place. 

 

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I disagree with comparing this year to recent winters. The fall pattern has been different, it has been more seasonable to slightly BN rather than a torch, and has been stormier than last year. There are no guarantees in weather, but I feel a lot better about this upcoming winter than the past few years.

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GFS looking better for the 12/10-12/12 period...there's a couple of shortwaves in there....and those won't be figured out until later, but good things happen when we amplify that western ridge a bit like on the 18z run. 

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10 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said:

GFS looking better for the 12/10-12/12 period...there's a couple of shortwaves in there....and those won't be figured out until later, but good things happen when we amplify that western ridge a bit like on the 18z run. 

We still can’t figure out what happens tomorrow lmao…. But that’s encouraging. 

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49 minutes ago, WinterWolf said:

We still can’t figure out what happens tomorrow lmao…. But that’s encouraging. 

Well not all systems are gonna have the marginal thermal profiles that we see tomorrow...no guarantees, but the larger scale layout for next week looks a lot colder. We have climo working in our favor too as we go deeper into December. 

Originally, we weren't expecting anything for 12/2 (we kept saying it looks better after about 12/3ish), but then this system kind of snuck into a colder airmass about a week ago on guidance...so we were hoping to score a bonus event early.

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4 minutes ago, UnitedWx said:

Speaking of colder, down to 26 in Westfield already. I didn't expect it to cool so rapidly this evening 

ORH is 30/5 right now....you wouldn't think low levels would be a problem less than 18 hours from now with that type of dewpoint look....while ORH might be ok, not too far away won't be. 

Not the same setup, but that kind of turnaround reminds me of the 1/27-28/94 storm. @Typhoon Tipalways talks about that one....we started the night before around 0F and predawn of the storm was like 8F with snow grains and by late evening, we were 50F+ with steaming snow banks. 

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27 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said:

ORH is 30/5 right now....you wouldn't think low levels would be a problem less than 18 hours from now with that type of dewpoint look....while ORH might be ok, not too far away won't be. 

Not the same setup, but that kind of turnaround reminds me of the 1/27-28/94 storm. @Typhoon Tipalways talks about that one....we started the night before around 0F and predawn of the storm was like 8F with snow grains and by late evening, we were 50F+ with steaming snow banks. 

But that was a cutter I believe…wasn’t it. But get your point.  Remember it well. 

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54 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said:

ORH is 30/5 right now....you wouldn't think low levels would be a problem less than 18 hours from now with that type of dewpoint look....while ORH might be ok, not too far away won't be. 

Not the same setup, but that kind of turnaround reminds me of the 1/27-28/94 storm. @Typhoon Tipalways talks about that one....we started the night before around 0F and predawn of the storm was like 8F with snow grains and by late evening, we were 50F+ with steaming snow banks. 

 

27 minutes ago, WinterWolf said:

But that was a cutter I believe…wasn’t it. But get your point.  Remember it well. 

That sounds like absolute hell. That's one situation where I'd rather not even have a storm in the area. Keep it cold and dry. 

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3 minutes ago, 40/70 Benchmark said:

I don't. 

Agree. I think we're in good shape this year. Will try to take a look at your forecast whenever I can find the time. I know you put an enormous amount of work it in. You should be proud (though I know that one never feels good until the forecast verifies). 

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