hawkeye_wx Posted 8 hours ago Share Posted 8 hours ago 967 mb, 115 kts flight level on the last pass. The eye has been tracking south of west this evening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windspeed Posted 8 hours ago Share Posted 8 hours ago i know its in the warmest water in the entire atlantic but would nor the slow movement cause upwelling?OHC is very deep in that part of the Caribbean. The 26°C isotherm is over 100 meters of depth. It would take a multi-day stall before upwelling became a significant factor, and we're talking in terms of a Category 5 sustaining itself. For all practical purposes, the main reason even slow-moving hurricanes in the western Caribbean can maintain Cat 5 intensity well into November. Some of our most powerful historical Cat 5s were slow movers in that part of the world (Wilma, Mitch, etc.). It's where the Western Hemisphere's version of WPAC typhoons can occur, though still considerably rare. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaWx Posted 8 hours ago Author Share Posted 8 hours ago 22 minutes ago, nycwinter said: i know its in the warmest water in the entire atlantic but would nor the slow movement cause upwelling? It will cool the water at least slowly because it’s taking the potential energy from the warm ocean and converting it into kinetic energy (its a heat engine). That’s related to tropical cyclones redistributing heat to higher latitudes. That’s in addition to any cooling of the surface from upwelling. I believe these are two separate processes. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floydbuster Posted 7 hours ago Share Posted 7 hours ago 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phlsnowman24 Posted 7 hours ago Share Posted 7 hours ago Satellite actually already looks stronger than the 11PM advisory, looks Cat 4ish. Wouldn't be surprised if it is at 2AM. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyhb Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago Bombs away with this microwave satellite presentation hot off the press. Very well organized inner core. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floydbuster Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago 1 minute ago, andyhb said: Bombs away with this microwave satellite presentation hot off the press. Very well organized inner core. HOLY COW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boston Bulldog Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago 4 minutes ago, andyhb said: Bombs away with this microwave satellite presentation hot off the press. Very well organized inner core. Good lord. ~940mb by morning? Maybe even lower? Throw intensity guidance out the door, Melissa is about to go low Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WxWatcher007 Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago 11 minutes ago, andyhb said: Bombs away with this microwave satellite presentation hot off the press. Very well organized inner core. That is…wow… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windspeed Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago Intense VHT is now going up in the NE eyewall. Obviously, we're in an ongoing rapid intensification phase. Expect some beefy pressure drops between now and Sunday afternoon with such an eyewall presentation on radar, which is getting more and more symmetrical each passing hour. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkeye_wx Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago Final recon pass until morning found 114 kts flight level and 959 mb extrap. This thing is barely moving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WxSynopsisDavid Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago I mean, one has to imagine based on what we are seeing on latest imagery, pressure will be even lower on next pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WxWatcher007 Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago This is exceptionally rapid organization. 15z on 10/25 04z now, on 10/26 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkeye_wx Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago Officially 959 mb from the dropsonde. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windspeed Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago This is exceptionally rapid organization. 15z on 10/25 04z now, on 10/26Fourteen hours between those two images is absolutely absurd. We kept harping that all forecast indicators were showing substantial decrease in wind shear to a near to pristine favorable upper environment. The system is now positioned right under an amplifying ULAC. Powder keg stuff. I think we'll see a Category 5 today. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaWx Posted 6 hours ago Author Share Posted 6 hours ago This will be a great test to see how much cooling of the surface there is by 10/29. Here was the SST map as of 10/24: note the large area of 30-31C surrounding Jamaica, which is the warmest in the Atlantic basin: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windspeed Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago This will be a great test to see how much cooling of the surface there is by 10/29. Here was the SST map as of 10/24: note the large area of 30-31C surrounding Jamaica, which is the warmest in the Atlantic basin: Here's some heat content and isotherm depth maps as well. Melissa's core, despite being a slow-mover, has plenty of energy to tap prior to land interaction.Credit to RSMAS at Miami for maintaining these to the public. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WxSynopsisDavid Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago Latest vortex message states the eyewall is square. This has only been seen in the strongest upper-echelon hurricanes. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HillsdaleMIWeather Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago 120 at 2 am update. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windspeed Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago Latest vortex message states the eyewall is square. This has only been seen in the strongest upper-echelon hurricanes.Mesovorticies rotating around the eyewall. it shouldn't be long until we start seeing pressure dropping like a rock. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arnold214 Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago I think Melissa is well on her way to becoming a "buzzsaw". 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windspeed Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago Melissa's eye is clearing out fast now. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nibor Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago Incredibly sobering look for those in Jamaica. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDreamTraveler Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago She's gonna be a beaut. I really can't believe we're watching the worst case scenario for Jamaica play out before our eyes. Especially a country that has avoided very many destructive hurricanes in the past but that luck as finally run out sadly. Like even if Melissa was moving normally this would still be one for the history books but given the slow speed, angle of approach and absolute monster strength it's going to be something that they may never see again for hundreds of years. I really do not think many know what's truly coming. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan11295 Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago Eye continuing to clear on IR, suggesting intensification is continuing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharknado123 Posted 48 minutes ago Share Posted 48 minutes ago On 10/24/2025 at 6:52 PM, Interstate said: Looks like Jamaica might be spared. .. and to everybody that said the GFS was onto something, you should remember that too. Dangerously incorrect comments from some of you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted 35 minutes ago Share Posted 35 minutes ago Gfs was an embarrassment with this. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torch Tiger Posted 30 minutes ago Share Posted 30 minutes ago We've seen these trochoidal wobble around islands including Jamaica, as well. Especially the slow w/wsw drifters. There are a variety of scenarios that are less than "worst-case", a little early to be declaring anything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherCCB Posted 27 minutes ago Share Posted 27 minutes ago 140mph on 5am eye really contracting now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve392 Posted 24 minutes ago Share Posted 24 minutes ago 3 hours ago, Nibor said: Incredibly sobering look for those in Jamaica. That is beautiful and terrifying all at the same time. That southeast part of the island is probably already wrecked too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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