bluewave Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 1 hour ago, Allsnow said: Coolest met summer since 2009 Coolest since 2017 and 2014 in NYC and 2018 and 2019 at Newark. That 2009 summer is a tough act to follow. 2009 was also the last time Newark had back to back top 10 coolest June and July. Time Series Summary for NY CITY CENTRAL PARK, NYClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Year Mean Avg Temperature Missing Count 2023 74.8 11 2022 76.7 0 2021 75.9 0 2020 76.9 0 2019 75.6 0 2018 75.8 0 2017 74.3 0 2016 76.7 0 2015 76.3 0 2014 74.4 0 2013 75.7 0 2012 75.5 0 2011 75.9 0 2010 77.8 0 2009 72.0 0 Time Series Summary for NEWARK LIBERTY INTL AP, NJClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Year Mean Avg Temperature Missing Count 2023 76.4 11 2022 79.2 0 2021 78.3 0 2020 77.6 0 2019 76.5 0 2018 76.5 0 2017 74.7 0 2016 77.6 0 2015 76.6 0 2014 74.8 0 2013 76.3 0 2012 76.9 0 2011 78.0 0 2010 78.7 0 2009 73.5 0 Time Series Summary for NEWARK LIBERTY INTL AP, NJ - Month of JunClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Rank Year Mean Avg Temperature Missing Count 1 1958 67.5 0 2 1947 67.8 0 3 1982 67.9 0 4 1940 68.5 0 5 1972 68.8 0 6 2009 68.9 0 - 1955 68.9 0 7 1936 69.1 0 8 1935 69.2 0 9 2003 69.3 0 - 1985 69.3 0 - 1979 69.3 0 10 1948 69.4 0 - 1946 69.4 0 - 1932 69.4 0 Time Series Summary for NEWARK LIBERTY INTL AP, NJ - Month of JulClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Rank Year Mean Avg Temperature Missing Count 1 1956 73.1 0 2 2000 73.7 0 3 1996 73.8 0 - 1962 73.8 0 - 1933 73.8 0 4 2001 74.1 0 - 1945 74.1 0 5 1969 74.2 0 - 1967 74.2 0 6 2009 74.3 0 7 1940 74.5 0 8 1932 74.7 0 9 1939 74.8 0 10 1976 74.9 0 - 1960 74.9 0 - 1946 74.9 0 - 1936 74.9 0 Time Series Summary for NEWARK LIBERTY INTL AP, NJClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Rank Ending Date Mean Avg Temperature Jun 1 to Jul 31 Missing Count 1 1940-07-31 71.5 0 2 2009-07-31 71.6 0 3 1947-07-31 71.7 0 4 1936-07-31 72.0 0 5 1932-07-31 72.1 0 6 1958-07-31 72.2 0 - 1946-07-31 72.2 0 7 1945-07-31 72.4 0 8 1956-07-31 72.5 0 - 1938-07-31 72.5 0 9 1933-07-31 72.6 0 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psv88 Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 1 hour ago, Allsnow said: Coolest met summer since 2009 2017 was cooler here. About even with 2019 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MANDA Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 Gotta feel sorry for the folks out in the central U.S. Heat indexes 115-120 in spots! Nasty stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 48 minutes ago, bluewave said: Coolest since 2017 and 2014 in NYC and 2018 and 2019 at Newark. That 2009 summer is a tough act to follow. 2009 was also the last time Newark had back to back top 10 coolest June and July. Time Series Summary for NY CITY CENTRAL PARK, NYClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Year Mean Avg Temperature Missing Count 2023 74.8 11 2022 76.7 0 2021 75.9 0 2020 76.9 0 2019 75.6 0 2018 75.8 0 2017 74.3 0 2016 76.7 0 2015 76.3 0 2014 74.4 0 2013 75.7 0 2012 75.5 0 2011 75.9 0 2010 77.8 0 2009 72.0 0 Time Series Summary for NEWARK LIBERTY INTL AP, NJClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Year Mean Avg Temperature Missing Count 2023 76.4 11 2022 79.2 0 2021 78.3 0 2020 77.6 0 2019 76.5 0 2018 76.5 0 2017 74.7 0 2016 77.6 0 2015 76.6 0 2014 74.8 0 2013 76.3 0 2012 76.9 0 2011 78.0 0 2010 78.7 0 2009 73.5 0 Time Series Summary for NEWARK LIBERTY INTL AP, NJ - Month of JunClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Rank Year Mean Avg Temperature Missing Count 1 1958 67.5 0 2 1947 67.8 0 3 1982 67.9 0 4 1940 68.5 0 5 1972 68.8 0 6 2009 68.9 0 - 1955 68.9 0 7 1936 69.1 0 8 1935 69.2 0 9 2003 69.3 0 - 1985 69.3 0 - 1979 69.3 0 10 1948 69.4 0 - 1946 69.4 0 - 1932 69.4 0 Time Series Summary for NEWARK LIBERTY INTL AP, NJ - Month of JulClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Rank Year Mean Avg Temperature Missing Count 1 1956 73.1 0 2 2000 73.7 0 3 1996 73.8 0 - 1962 73.8 0 - 1933 73.8 0 4 2001 74.1 0 - 1945 74.1 0 5 1969 74.2 0 - 1967 74.2 0 6 2009 74.3 0 7 1940 74.5 0 8 1932 74.7 0 9 1939 74.8 0 10 1976 74.9 0 - 1960 74.9 0 - 1946 74.9 0 - 1936 74.9 0 Time Series Summary for NEWARK LIBERTY INTL AP, NJClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Rank Ending Date Mean Avg Temperature Jun 1 to Jul 31 Missing Count 1 1940-07-31 71.5 0 2 2009-07-31 71.6 0 3 1947-07-31 71.7 0 4 1936-07-31 72.0 0 5 1932-07-31 72.1 0 6 1958-07-31 72.2 0 - 1946-07-31 72.2 0 7 1945-07-31 72.4 0 8 1956-07-31 72.5 0 - 1938-07-31 72.5 0 9 1933-07-31 72.6 0 Sorry for phl it was Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 47 minutes ago, MANDA said: Gotta feel sorry for the folks out in the central U.S. Heat indexes 115-120 in spots! Nasty stuff. Some places in Iowa have dewpoints in the low 90s! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MANDA Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 7 minutes ago, Stormlover74 said: Some places in Iowa have dewpoints in the low 90s! Evapotranspiration a.k.a. "corn sweat" in high gear. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forkyfork Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 let's cut everything down and plant corn 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 1 hour ago, Allsnow said: Sorry for phl it was Philly is closer to 2014 so far than 2009. Plus 2009 wasn’t as cold in Philly as it was in our area. Newark had its 2nd coldest June and July average while Philly was only 13th coolest since 1931. Time Series Summary for Philadelphia Area, PA (ThreadEx)Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Ending Date Mean Avg Temperature Jun 1 to Aug 20 Missing Count 2023-08-20 75.8 0 2022-08-20 79.0 0 2021-08-20 77.4 0 2020-08-20 78.4 0 2019-08-20 78.0 0 2018-08-20 76.8 0 2017-08-20 76.9 0 2016-08-20 78.8 0 2015-08-20 77.7 0 2014-08-20 75.9 0 2013-08-20 76.7 0 2012-08-20 78.0 0 2011-08-20 78.6 0 2010-08-20 80.1 0 2009-08-20 74.8 0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cfa Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 91/65 split here, currently 85. I don’t get the 2009 comparisons, that summer felt cooler, cloudier, and wetter than 2023 from what I can remember. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnoSki14 Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 Unless we see a major early September warm spell then our 90+ window is closing fast. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 12 minutes ago, SnoSki14 said: Unless we see a major early September warm spell then our 90+ window is closing fast. Yeah, warm spots like Newark will easily fall below the 33 average number of 90° days since 2010. Today was only the 23rd day to reach 90° at Newark. Monthly Number of Days Max Temperature >= 90 for NEWARK LIBERTY INTL AP, NJClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Year Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Season Mean 0 2 5 15 8 3 0 33 2023 2 1 1 14 5 M M 23 2022 0 4 6 20 18 1 0 49 2021 0 4 12 11 13 1 0 41 2020 0 0 5 17 9 0 0 31 2019 0 1 4 14 4 3 1 27 2018 0 4 5 9 14 4 0 36 2017 0 3 5 9 2 3 0 22 2016 0 3 3 16 13 5 0 40 2015 0 2 4 11 13 5 0 35 2014 0 0 2 8 2 3 0 15 2013 0 2 4 15 3 1 0 25 2012 0 2 6 16 7 2 0 33 2011 0 1 4 22 4 0 0 31 2010 1 2 13 21 11 6 0 54 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycwinter Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 3 hours ago, Allsnow said: Coolest met summer since 2009 you can already feel the dimishing effects of the lowering sun angle..in another month it will everyday hoodie season happening.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyWx Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 2 hours ago, bluewave said: Coolest since 2017 and 2014 in NYC and 2018 and 2019 at Newark. That 2009 summer is a tough act to follow. 2009 was also the last time Newark had back to back top 10 coolest June and July. Yeah I think people are over-blowing how cool this summer has been. Is it as bad as some recent years? No, but you'd think we're in a mini ice age over here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnoSki14 Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 47 minutes ago, SnoSki14 said: Unless we see a major early September warm spell then our 90+ window is closing fast. Of course as soon as I post that the GFS torches us again. However meaningful heat in the medium-long term has been failing to materialize. We only got 1 day of heat out of this ridging Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 32 minutes ago, JerseyWx said: Yeah I think people are over-blowing how cool this summer has been. Is it as bad as some recent years? No, but you'd think we're in a mini ice age over here. It just feels cooler relative to the extreme heat of recent summers. But nothing noteworthy like 2009 was. We’ll take what we can get. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doncat Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 88° high today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 Cooler air will return for tomorrow. Afterward, a prolonged stretch of cooler than normal readings will continue through at least the weekend. Yesterday, Hilary brought an all-time daily record 2.20" rainfall to Death Valley. That tops the previous one- two- and three-day records. It also matches that location's average annual rainfall (1991-2020 baseline) The ENSO Region 1+2 anomaly was +3.3°C and the Region 3.4 anomaly was +1.3°C for the week centered around August 16. For the past six weeks, the ENSO Region 1+2 anomaly has averaged +3.15°C and the ENSO Region 3.4 anomaly has averaged +1.17°C. El Niño conditions have developed and will likely continue to strengthen through at least the summer. The probability of an East-based El Niño event has increased. The SOI was unavailable today. The preliminary Arctic Oscillation (AO) was -0.500 today. On August 19 the MJO was in Phase 1 at an amplitude of 1.553 (RMM). The August 18-adjusted amplitude was 1.295 (RMM). Based on sensitivity analysis applied to the latest guidance, there is an implied 82% probability that New York City will have a cooler than normal August (1991-2020 normal). August will likely finish with a mean temperature near 74.7° (1.4° below normal). 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Smith Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 Just for interest, here is the complete list of years (at NYC) that had their annual maximum later than today's date August 21st ... they are arranged by dates of occurrence and within same dates, from warmest to coolest values. Ties within this range of dates are shown in italics. Ties with earlier values are shown underlined. Notes include any record highs that were not annual maxima. Absence of such a note implies that the warmest annual max shown is also that day's record high. Date ___ YEAR(s) ___ Max _______ notes (including record highs not annual maxima) Aug 21 __ 1869 ___ 95 _______________________ 96F 1955 Aug 22 __ 1916 ___ 95 ___________ Aug 23 __ (no years had max) _______________ 92F 1916 Aug 24 __ 1972 ___ 94 (tied July 19 & 23, 1972 94F) Aug 25 __ (no years had max) _______________ 95F 1948 Aug 26 __ 1948 __ 103 Aug 27 __ 1960 _ 91 (tied July 12, 1960 91F) __ 101F 1948 Aug 28 __ 1973 ___ 98 __ tied 30th __________ 100F 1948 Aug 29 __ (no years had max) ________________ 99F 1953 Aug 30 __ 1973 ___ 98 __ tied 28th ___________ 98F also in 1953 Aug 31 __ (no years had max) ________________100F 1953 Sep 1 ____ (no years had max) ________________ 97F 1953 Sep 2 ____ 1953 __ 102 ____ 1932 _ 96 ___ 2014 _ 92 Sep 3 ____ 1929 ___ 99 ____ 1921 _ 96 _________ Sep 4 ____ (no years had max) ________________ 97F 1929 Sep 5 ____ (no years had max) ________________ 94F 1985 Sep 6 ____ (no years had max) ________________ 97F 1881 Sep 7 ____ 1881 ___101 Sep 8 ____ 2015 ___ 97 Sep 9 ____ 1915 ___ 94 ____ 1884 _ 91 (tied June 21, Aug 20, Sep 10 1884 91F) Sep 10 ___ 1897 ___ 93 (tied July 6, 1897 93F) ___ 1884 _ 91 (tied June 21, Aug 20, Sep 9 1884 91F) ________________________________________________ 97F 1931 and 1983 Sep 11 ___ 1983 ___ 99 __ 1931 ___ 99 __ (1931 tied Aug 7 99F) Sep 12 ___ (no years had max) ________________ 94F 1961 Sep 13 ___ (no years had max) ________________ 94F 1952 Sep 14 ___ (no years had max) ________________ 93F 1931 Sep 15 ___ 1927 ___ 92 (tied four dates in July 1927 92F) ___ Sep 16 ___ (no years had max) ________________ 93F 1915 Sep 17 ___ (no years had max) ________________ 93F 1991 Sep 18 ___ (no years had max) ________________ 91F 1891 Sep 19 ___ (no years had max) ________________ 94F 1983 Sep 20 ___ (no years had max) ________________ 93F 1895, 1983 Sep 21 ___ (no years had max) ________________ 95F 1895 Sep 22 ___ 1914 ___ 95 (tied May 27, 1914 95F) ___ 1970 _ 94 ___ record 95F 1895, 1914 Sep 23 ___ 1895 ___ 97 ____________________ also 96F May 31, June 1, 2 1895 ___________________________ Also 93F on Sep 1st to 3rd 1898 but annual max was 100F in July 3. Records after Sep 23 generally near 90F, sooner or later a year could set an annual max in October as 94F in 1941 is above annual maxima of several years. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACRUS Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 8/21 ACY: 92 EWR: 91 BLM: 91 PHL: 90 New Brnswck: 89 NYC: 88 JFK: 88 LGA: 87 ISP: 87 TEB: 87 TTN: 86 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doncat Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 Looking back thru my records, only 1982 had no 90° readings in August. 7 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 13 hours ago, bluewave said: Philly is closer to 2014 so far than 2009. Plus 2009 wasn’t as cold in Philly as it was in our area. Newark had its 2nd coldest June and July average while Philly was only 13th coolest since 1931. Time Series Summary for Philadelphia Area, PA (ThreadEx)Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Ending Date Mean Avg Temperature Jun 1 to Aug 20 Missing Count 2023-08-20 75.8 0 2022-08-20 79.0 0 2021-08-20 77.4 0 2020-08-20 78.4 0 2019-08-20 78.0 0 2018-08-20 76.8 0 2017-08-20 76.9 0 2016-08-20 78.8 0 2015-08-20 77.7 0 2014-08-20 75.9 0 2013-08-20 76.7 0 2012-08-20 78.0 0 2011-08-20 78.6 0 2010-08-20 80.1 0 2009-08-20 74.8 0 My point still stands…coolest summer in phl since 2009. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 September in august this summer 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 Meanwhile 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CIK62 Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 The next 8 days are averaging 75degs.(67/82) or Normal. Reached 90{H.I. of 95} here yesterday at 6pm. Today: 77-81, wind ne., m. sunny?, 65 tomorrow AM. 71*(54%RH) here at 7am{was still 80* back at midnight}. 70* at 8am. 69* at 9am. 73* at Noon. 79* at 3pm. Reached 84* at 6pm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee59 Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 It was so warm late last evening but how refreshing this morning 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnoSki14 Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 45 minutes ago, Allsnow said: Meanwhile Yikes! Hard pass 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycwinter Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 Oh, what a beautiful mornin'Oh, what a beautiful dayI've got a beautiful feelin'Everything's goin' my way Oh, what a beautiful day 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 1 hour ago, SnoSki14 said: Yikes! Hard pass We got lucky this summer 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nibor Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 2 hours ago, Allsnow said: Meanwhile me just looking at that image Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterwx21 Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 Dewpoint all the way down to 50. Enjoy this extremely low humidity today and tomorrow. More low humidity coming early next week as this comfortable August continues. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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