Brian5671 Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 10 minutes ago, Snowshack said: Good chance we'll see a cold/snowy 12/20 - 12/25 at some point too despite it feeling like forces are aligned against that. We kind of did this year outside of a 12-18 hr torch with the cutter.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthShoreWx Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 53 minutes ago, coastalplainsnowman said: 1982/1983 would be a backender too if memory serves. Christmas ‘82 was the opposite of Christmas ‘83. The first really warm Christmas Eve in my memory - followed by minimal snow, until the Blizzard of ‘83. Christmas maybe, but there was a decent snowstorm around the 10th of December 1982 so it wasn't a shutout. I think it was one of those memorable Patriots-Jets games played in that storm, but I might be mixing my football folklore. There was also a big snowstorm around the second week of January 1983 (15th?) that went over to rain for a while along the coast, but left accumulations almost everywhere. Pretty big difference from LI south shore (where mostly rain) to north shore in that one. Even more snow on the Connecticut coast and a lot inland where there was no rain. Plus 5 or 6" that ended as some rain or drizzle about a week before PD1. Scary how I remember stuff when I was young better than stuff from last winter. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rjay Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 48 minutes ago, bluewave said: I still remember the old wind chill chart before they revised them to less extreme values. https://www.adirondackdailyenterprise.com/opinion/columns/safety-on-the-roads-by-dave-werner/2016/12/wind-chill-values-revised-in-2001/ So do I. Crazy how much that changed. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthShoreWx Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 1 hour ago, bluewave said: The 18z HRRR had ocean effect squalls for all of Long Island tomorrow afternoon but it’s still on its own. Might be a long shot, but if it did happen that would support the flash freeze on the roadways. Lots of parties on for tomorrow evening. Would be ugly. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJwx85 Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 What was the year that we got 5 big storms all in March? I remember I was living in Mahwah at the time and one of my trees in the front yard self destructed from the weight of the wet snow. Seemed like we were getting a storm every week. Was thinking it was 2017 but maybe it was 2018? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crossbowftw3 Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 2 minutes ago, NJwx85 said: What was the year that we got 5 big storms all in March? I remember I was living in Mahwah at the time and one of my trees in the front yard self destructed from the weight of the wet snow. Seemed like we were getting a storm every week. Was thinking it was 2017 but maybe it was 2018? 2018 1st-3rd — 39” in upstate NY and a rather notable wind event 6th-7th — 20+” in NNJ (I only got 7” and I was only about maybe 60 miles north of the death band) 12th-14th Boston special 18th? NYC special and ~18” on LI 5th was either later month or April 1st/2nd 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 5 minutes ago, NJwx85 said: What was the year that we got 5 big storms all in March? I remember I was living in Mahwah at the time and one of my trees in the front yard self destructed from the weight of the wet snow. Seemed like we were getting a storm every week. Was thinking it was 2017 but maybe it was 2018? 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 9 hours ago, bluewave said: Continuation of the coldest temperatures staying to our west in recent years. It is. At least for now, that’s the “new normal” for large-scale Arctic blasts. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uofmiami Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 21 minutes ago, donsutherland1 said: It is. At least for now, that’s the “new normal” for large-scale Arctic blasts. I'm sure a lot of us remember the old arctic fronts with the wind blowing due N down the hudson valley & funneling the coldest air into the metro area. Seems like it has been a while since we've had that happen. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cfa Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 Arctic air out of the WSW just sounds so wrong. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forkyfork Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 we have seen so many hits at day 5 turn into cutters. we want something way offshore at this time range these days 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forkyfork Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoboLeader1 Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 Under a winter weather advisory here in the Berkshires, currently 29F & with light snow falling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 34 minutes ago, Cfa said: Arctic air out of the WSW just sounds so wrong. It may have shaved 5-10° off of what the temperatures would have been on a NW flow instead. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forkyfork Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 44 minutes ago, forkyfork said: not saying ku, just the potential for a few inches if it keeps trending 9 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACRUS Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 Kansas City: -5F Chicago: 0 Dallas: 15F 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 New years eve could be 40-50 degrees warmer than Christmas eve 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherpruf Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 5 hours ago, Volcanic Winter said: What do you call it when you feel alive and refreshed in the cold and depressed and unhappy in unseasonable warmth? Should probably see a doctor about that . And my wife is the exact diametric opposite of me, so naturally we’re perfect for each other. Though she does enjoy the winter hiking we do, I have to keep her bundled up like a freshly hatched chicken. SAD is a legitimate and serious disorder; in fact. when summers are cloudy and rainy, as I think 89 was, people can get a summer version of it. Far more people get depressed over cold and snow than are happy about it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherpruf Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 5 hours ago, EastonSN+ said: Cold and snowy Decembers will happen again. I mean we had a big snowstorm in 2020. It's just cyclical patterns. We are in a crappy period like the late 90s and pretty much every year from 1970 through 1992 save a couple years like 77/78. You may have had big storm in Dec 2020; we had a few inches. But that would be fine right about now.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherpruf Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 2 hours ago, NJwx85 said: What was the year that we got 5 big storms all in March? I remember I was living in Mahwah at the time and one of my trees in the front yard self destructed from the weight of the wet snow. Seemed like we were getting a storm every week. Was thinking it was 2017 but maybe it was 2018? 2018, but most of those storms underperformed in my area. Just not a snow magnet here in N Middlesex County. 2016 and Dec 2010 were jackpots, oh and Jan 2011. The rest are all just also rans....( not counting prior decades ). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 A powerful storm will continue to bring heavy rain, high winds, and coastal flooding to the region tonight and tomorrow. A storm total 1"-2" of precipitation appears likely with locally higher amounts. A few spots could reach 3" or precipitation. A light snow accumulation remains possible as the storm moves away from the region, largely in interior sections. A flash freeze remains possible tomorrow. In the wake of the storm, the season's coldest air so far will pour into the region. Temperatures will tumble into the teens in in New York City by evening and low teens overnight. Some locations outside the City could see single-digit lows. Nevertheless, the core of the Arctic air mass will bypass the New York City region. Sunday will be fair and continued very cold before slow moderation commences early next week. The AO fell reached -4.000 on December 10th. Since 1950, there were 11 cases that saw the AO reach -4.000 or below during December. Mean snowfall for those cases was 9.0" (Median: 9.1"). 64% of such cases saw 6" or more of snowfall in December while 45% of such cases saw 10.0" or more snow. In contrast, during all other December cases, mean December snowfall was 3.5" (Median: 2.5"). 91% of those cases also saw a colder than normal December in the northern Middle Atlantic region. In terms of seasonal snowfall, 64% of those seasons saw 30" or more snowfall in New York City with 45% having 40" or more. Just 18% of such cases had less than 20" seasonal snowfall, both of which had less than 10" for the December-January period. However, there are cases where Decembers with strong blocking have seen much below normal snowfall. The three cases with less than 1" of monthly snowfall with a monthly average AO of -1.500 or below were: 1985: 0.9" (total seasonal snowfall: 13.0"); 1996: Trace (total seasonal snowfall: 10.0"); and, 2012: 0.4" (total seasonal snowfall: 26.1"). The lowest December snowfall when the AO averaged -2.000 or below was 5.1" in 1976. The lowest winter month snowfall with a monthly average AO of -2.000 or below was 0.5" in January 1998. There is a chance that both futility records could be surpassed this month. The ENSO Region 1+2 anomaly was -0.1°C and the Region 3.4 anomaly was -0.9°C for the week centered around December 14. For the past six weeks, the ENSO Region 1+2 anomaly has averaged -0.95°C and the ENSO Region 3.4 anomaly has averaged -0.92°C. La Niña conditions will likely persist through mid-winter. The SOI was +55.74 today. That smashed the daily record high of +44.34 from 2003. It was also the highest SOI reading since April 2, 2011 when the SOI reached +62.15. The preliminary Arctic Oscillation (AO) was -3.374 today. On December 20 the MJO was in Phase 4 at an amplitude of 0.792 (RMM). The December 19-adjusted amplitude was 0.476 (RMM). Based on sensitivity analysis applied to the latest guidance, there is an implied 87% probability that New York City will have a colder than normal December (1991-2020 normal). December will likely finish with a mean temperature near 37.3° (1.8° below normal). 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 44 and windy here 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 US National Weather Service Philadelphia/Mount Holly We are forecasting temperatures to remain at or below 32° across much of our area for at least 4 consecutive days (midday Friday to Tuesday). This has not happened in Philly since Jan 2018. Some other locations south of I-78 have not experienced this since 2015 or 2016. #PAwx #NJwx #DEwx #MDwx 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 As Arctic air presses into New York City tomorrow, Central Park will likely see a daily temperature range of 30°F or above. Typically, NYC sees 3.3 such days per year. 2022 has seen 3 such days so far: February 4 (31°), February 18 (36°), and February 23 (33°). 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qg_omega Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 Radar is not impressive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 1 hour ago, weatherpruf said: You may have had big storm in Dec 2020; we had a few inches. But that would be fine right about now.... A few inches???? Middlesex County Carteret 8.0 East Brunswick 8.5 Iselin 8.0 Metuchen(CoCo) 8.0 Middlesex(CoCo) 6.3 New Brunswick(CoCo,Coop) 4.8-6.3 (two reports) North Brunswick Twp(CoCo) 7.8 Old Bridge Twp(CoCo) 7.5 South Brunswick 7.5 South Plainfield 6.0 South River(CoCo) 6.5 Woodbridge Twp(CoCo) 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 @weatherpruf 1/31/21 the last big one Cheesequake 16.7 Edison 15.0 Middlesex(CoCo) 17.7 New Brunswick(CoCo,Coop) 13.7 (two reports) North Brunswick Twp(CoCo) 14.0-15.6 (two reports) Old Bridge Twp(CoCo) 14.5 Plainsboro Township 12.4 Port Reading 18.0 South River 13.7 Woodbridge Twp(CoCo) 15.5-18.5 (two reports) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rmine1 Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 37 minutes ago, qg_omega said: Radar is not impressive Mostly offshore for now 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 Good thing it's not snow Nam slashed totals in half since this morning 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm1220 Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 29 minutes ago, Stormlover74 said: Good thing it's not snow Nam slashed totals in half since this morning Wasn’t the only model that went big with rain totals, RGEM was 2-3” for several runs. I’ll be lucky to make it to 1” here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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