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Just now, WalpoleJoe said:

I really liked Fish, she was great.

Lost my brother to suicide 23 years ago, the feeling never leaves. If you are feeling suicidal, please get help. God bless her family, and those who struggle with this awful disease. 

Sorry about your brother.  It really is an awful disease. Wishing everyone and their family impacted by it best wishes. 

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Mish Michaels went to my alma mater for meteorology. Maybe 11-12 years before me. I met her at in 2002 at the storms conference. Very kind woman. She was always doing outreach programs around Boston helping kids get into science and weather. Tragic loss. 

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6 minutes ago, dendrite said:

Had a bear take down my feeders last night. That’s a new early record for me. 

Both times it happened to me here was in early May. They just mangled them and bent the metal posts they were on as if they were a paper clip. The power it must have taken was impressive.

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5 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said:

Both times it happened to me here was in early May. They just mangled them and bent the metal posts they were on as if they were a paper clip. The power it must have taken was impressive.

April is my earliest so I usually don't start bringing them in until 4/1. Hopefully I can bend it back into place temporarily until I can make up a new pole. Bastard.

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16 hours ago, Damage In Tolland said:

Agree. Nothing better than dusk setting in by 3:45-4:00 with Xmas lights and snowpack . I highly doubt the House passes this nonsense 

The other side of that is the rare snowless early December in Fort Kent on a drizzly afternoon.  Seems to be getting dark at 2:30.

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3 hours ago, Baroclinic Zone said:

Checking in to say hi to everyone.  I'm alive and doing well.

I've been extremely busy with my 2 full time jobs, so my time here is limited.

I'll be around when time is right.

Good to hear. Same here—working nonstop but hanging in there. 

Hoping for a great NCAA tournament. Barely had time for a bracket but I entered our annual ESPN thing. 

Hope everyone and their families are well.

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18 minutes ago, forkyfork said:

she was a climate change denier and thought vaccines caused autism. there are better people to white knight 

She probably did more to help disadvantaged communities in a year with her outreach than most people do in their lifetimes. You are still coming across as an asshole in this thread.

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I knew her personally ...though we hadn't spoken in years - life distancing... But I interned with Harvey Leonard back in the autumn of 1996 into the winter of 1997, a time when she was still on the noon desk working as a colleague to him, and Todd Gross ..et al.  

We shared many chats.  The night crew typically showed between 4 and 4:30.... I was there by 3:30, hanging charts and queueing digitals such as MOS and NWS texts/alerts as part of the gig.  But she often hung around for awhile and we talked about aspects that ranged, some personal ... and of course, much about the weather.  She was just like us in so many ways, for the passion of weather phenomenon.   Her big core was convection, which mine was at the time - we regaled stories of our youth.   I witness an F3 tornado carve a canyon straight though the business district of Kalamazoo Michigan, when I was boy .. 1980, May 13th.    She, the same...as a similar destructive vortex stung through her neighborhood.  She was somewhat younger then I, when witnessing her encounter.  We were in our 20s back in those WHDH days. But we felt there was similarities in our backgrounds like that...

The reason I'm revealing this is to let you all know, that I can assure you, she was not a climate denier.  What she was concerned over, back then, was the absolute attribution of human activities as being the only cause.  She also was miss-construed and framed improperly for her views on Vaccines.  But vaccines have now taken on the same knee jerk trial and conviction --> career assassination shit as WOKE and 'Me Too' - where people are so willing, almost recreationally, to ruin lives based upon precise accuracy of the "public impression of what facts are".   

I had not spoken with her beyond an email exchanges since ... 2007 I want to say - I had not realized it was that long ago, until this horrible news struck like a sniper bullet. I have been forced to ponder matters.   It's very very sad to me, because we were on the friend side of acquainted, sharing space and colloquy on so many occasions. 

I can assure you, knowing who she was, as I did back then, she was fully capable and willing, if confronted with science and empirically based causality, of amending her perspectives on matters.  Those climate views being bandied about, were from 25 years ago people.  Her most recent gig was in fact going to be a climate specialist/journalist - it would not shock me, knowing who she was, that it would be where she would atone if need be.  

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5 minutes ago, Typhoon Tip said:

I knew her personally ...though we hadn't spoken in years - life distancing... But I interned with Harvey Leonard back in the autumn of 1996 into the winter of 1997, a time when she was still on the noon desk working as a colleague to him, and Todd Gross ..et al.  

We shared many chats.  The night crew typically showed between 4 and 4:30.... I was there by 3:30, hanging charts and queueing digitals such as MOS and NWS texts/alerts as part of the gig.  But she often hung around for awhile and we talked about aspects that ranged, some personal ... and of course, much about the weather.  She was just like us in so many ways, for the passion of weather phenomenon.   Her big core was convection, which mine was at the time - we regaled stories of our youth.   I witness an F3 tornado carve a canyon straight though the business district of Kalamazoo Michigan, when I was boy .. 1980, May 13th.    She, the same...as a similar destructive vortex stung through her neighborhood.  She was somewhat younger then I, when witnessing her encounter.  We were in our 20s back in those WHDH days. But we felt there was similarities in our backgrounds like that...

The reason I'm revealing this is to let you all know, that I can assure you, she was not a climate denier.  What she was concerned over, back then, was the absolute attribution of human activities as being the only cause.  She also was miss-construed and framed improperly for her views on Vaccines.  But vaccines have now taken on the same knee jerk trial and conviction --> career assassination shit as WOKE and 'Me Too' - where people are willing ruin lives based upon precise accuracy of "public impression of what facts are".   

I had not spoken with her beyond an email exchanges since ... 2007 I want to say - I had not realized it was that long ago, until this horrible news struck like a sniper bullet. I have been forced to ponder matters.   It's very very sad to me, because we were on the friend side of acquainted, sharing space and colloquy on so many occasions. 

I can assure you, knowing who she was, as I did back then, she was fully capable and willing, if confronted with science and empirically based causality, of amending her perspectives on matters.  Those climate views being bandied about, were from 25 years ago people.  Her most recent gig was in fact going to be a climate specialist/journalist - it would not shock me, knowing who she was, that it would be where she would atone if need be.  

Hey tip, I appreciate the effort you put into your posts. If you don't mind me asking though, what's your native language?

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4 minutes ago, A Moonlit Sky said:

Hey tip, I appreciate the effort you put into your posts. If you don't mind me asking though, what's your native language?

oh i didn't run that through any editing for grammar.   there's probably miss placed comas and shit like that.  

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8 minutes ago, Typhoon Tip said:

I knew her personally ...though we hadn't spoken in years - life distancing... But I interned with Harvey Leonard back in the autumn of 1996 into the winter of 1997, a time when she was still on the noon desk working as a colleague to him, and Todd Gross ..et al.  

We shared many chats.  The night crew typically showed between 4 and 4:30.... I was there by 3:30, hanging charts and queueing digitals such as MOS and NWS texts/alerts as part of the gig.  But she often hung around for awhile and we talked about aspects that ranged, some personal ... and of course, much about the weather.  She was just like us in so many ways, for the passion of weather phenomenon.   Her big core was convection, which mine was at the time - we regaled stories of our youth.   I witness an F3 tornado carve a canyon straight though the business district of Kalamazoo Michigan, when I was boy .. 1980, May 13th.    She, the same...as a similar destructive vortex stung through her neighborhood.  She was somewhat younger then I, when witnessing her encounter.  We were in our 20s back in those WHDH days. But we felt there was similarities in our backgrounds like that...

The reason I'm revealing this is to let you all know, that I can assure you, she was not a climate denier.  What she was concerned over, back then, was the absolute attribution of human activities as being the only cause.  She also was miss-construed and framed improperly for her views on Vaccines.  But vaccines have now taken on the same knee jerk trial and conviction --> career assassination shit as WOKE and 'Me Too' - where people are willing ruin lives based upon precise accuracy of "public impression of what facts are".   

I had not spoken with her beyond an email exchanges since ... 2007 I want to say - I had not realized it was that long ago, until this horrible news struck like a sniper bullet. I have been forced to ponder matters.   It's very very sad to me, because we were on the friend side of acquainted, sharing space and colloquy on so many occasions. 

I can assure you, knowing who she was, as I did back then, she was fully capable and willing, if confronted with science and empirically based causality, of amending her perspectives on matters.  Those climate views being bandied about, were from 25 years ago people.  Her most recent gig was in fact going to be a climate specialist/journalist - it would not shock me, knowing who she was, that it would be where she would atone if need be.  

John, thanks for these details.   The loss of Mish Michaels has left a big hole in the weather community and of course her friends and most importantly her family.  

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On 3/16/2022 at 2:22 PM, Typhoon Tip said:

Yeah... this is my only peeve about it.  I don't really give a ratz azz what happens otherwise with daylight in the winter, because it's not like I'm outside for any reason other than dashing between doors.  

There are supposed insurmountable issues to society but I find those arguments to be more <_< if not evasive, really just being cow-tied to convention and/or personal wants, masquerading as hardships.  If this were 1970s ... perhaps, but techno-cultural relativity gives something back to the other side of the debate. In this modernity there are ways and means to make it feasible. 

 

Not my only pet peeve.  Even down at 30N daylight savings time in late October means kids walking to the bus stop at night, I know a kid about 15 years ago hit by the bus.  End it altogether, don't make it permanent.

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