weathafella Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 That I can understand. Logan is surrounded by the Atlantic But some topography must be at work with the KFIT thing Well context is important. At 5am it was 21 at Logan, 6am 27, 7am 23. I'm at 16 atm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 Logan is more from being near UHI too. It doesn't do well on radiatonal cooling nights. Winds sometimes stay up a few knots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUNNAWAYICEBERG Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 We need a '10-'11 NAO block. Some say it's coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mahk_webstah Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 I woke up feeling optimistic this morn. Probably because the weekend is clearly a disaster and no use investing emotional energy in that. But it clears the deck, allows cold air to come in and perhaps contributes to more blocking and a better set up. And perhaps a clipper on Wednesday and a bigger storm over the weekend. Wouldn't be surprised to see the clipper trend stronger. Looks like we are going into a good 2 week period. Also, I don't buy a sustained returned to a AN pattern later in January. Maybe a relax. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lava Rock Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 OUr local met is such a tool. Starts the forecast this morning talking as if we've been under a barrage of cold for days and how it'll be nice to enjoy the next three days of 30+F weather. Then says "so get out those snowshoes" and enjoy it while you can". Ugh, dude, there's no snowshoeing around here on 2" of hardpacked snow/ice. Anyways, 1" RN on sunday will really set the mood for good 'ole winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 Logan is more from being near UHI too. It doesn't do well on radiatonal cooling nights. Winds sometimes stay up a few knots.Any idea why KFIT was so warm then? A little UHI but not much. 20 degrees different over 15 miles About 600 feet el difference Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 Any idea why KFIT was so warm then? A little UHI but not much. 20 degrees different over 15 miles About 600 feet el difference If FIT had any wind at all then they would have stayed warm. It looks like from their obs they had trouble going calm. They only briefly went calm and then wind kicked back up so the inversion never was really able to get established and they got a mixed atmosphere. Last night was a razor's edge for inversions. About an inch or two of snow OTG here at O'Hare airport in Chicago while I wait for my connecting flight to Colorado. Hopefully I can bring some winter back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUNNAWAYICEBERG Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 If FIT had any wind at all then they would have stayed warm. It looks like from their obs they had trouble going calm. They only briefly went calm and then wind kicked back up so the inversion never was really able to get established and they got a mixed atmosphere. Last night was a razor's edge for inversions. About an inch or two of snow OTG here at O'Hare airport in Chicago while I wait for my connecting flight to Colorado. Hopefully I can bring some winter back. Enjoy it man and do your best to lug some snow back with you. We are starVing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalcottWx Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 Logan is more from being near UHI too. It doesn't do well on radiatonal cooling nights. Winds sometimes stay up a few knots. There is really only a few days a year there isn't some type of breeze in Southie. Since we don't cool down as much as burbs that same breeze helps make up for the temperature difference. Downright miserable when the wind is blowing. That's one thing I noticed at Bridgton. It did hit -31F one morning at the closest ASOS site, but it wasn't all that bad if you bundled up because there was zero wind. I expected it to be worse. Kind of a boring low temp fetish because it warms so quickly the minute the sun comes up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 one of the faster temperature rise scenarios i've seen in a long while... low of 9 at 7am, as of 10? almost 30 already - wow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 Strange...4.9F here and KFIT is at 25 That whole area looks strange on Wundrrground temp map I had -8F at my house at 750ft while it was 31F at 1,500ft (which then dropped to 13F an hour later when the inversion changed). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 Any idea why KFIT was so warm then? A little UHI but not much. 20 degrees different over 15 miles About 600 feet el difference Almost 40 degree difference here within 5 miles and 800ft elevation distance. So what you are seeing sounds right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 Pretty classic mixed atmosphere vs. below the inversion. So last night MVL was below zero all night (hitting -10F for a low) at 750ft. Up at 1,550ft the station near Stowe's base (only 800ft higher than MVL) was at 13F right after midnight, but then you can see how it mixed out suddenly. Wind gusts went up to 30-40mph, the temp shot up to 32F, and the dew point tanked. They were at like 18% RH. So in only a few miles and 800 vertical feet, you had one spot in the 30-32F range all night, while down in town it was like -10F. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 Pretty classic mixed atmosphere vs. below the inversion. So last night MVL was below zero all night (hitting -10F for a low) at 750ft. Up at 1,550ft the station near Stowe's base (only 800ft higher than MVL) was at 13F right after midnight, but then you can see how it mixed out suddenly. Wind gusts went up to 30-40mph, the temp shot up to 32F, and the dew point tanked. They were at like 18% RH. So in only a few miles and 800 vertical feet, you had one spot in the 30-32F range all night, while down in town it was like -10F. Spruce Base.jpg Pretty wild. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 Thanks for all of the info. Enjoy the sking Will. Enjoy the boat drinks Scooter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 one of the faster temperature rise scenarios i've seen in a long while... low of 9 at 7am, as of 10? almost 30 already - wow Hit 11 at my place....6 last night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 If FIT had any wind at all then they would have stayed warm. It looks like from their obs they had trouble going calm. They only briefly went calm and then wind kicked back up so the inversion never was really able to get established and they got a mixed atmosphere. Last night was a razor's edge for inversions. About an inch or two of snow OTG here at O'Hare airport in Chicago while I wait for my connecting flight to Colorado. Hopefully I can bring some winter back. Have fun bro. How long you gone? Did Meghan go? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 Have fun bro. How long you gone? Did Meghan go? :weenie: :weenie: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROOSTA Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 Warming fast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 one of the faster temperature rise scenarios i've seen in a long while... low of 9 at 7am, as of 10? almost 30 already - wow 40F diurnal trend today... from -10F to a high of 30F up here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 40F diurnal trend today... from -10F to a high of 30F up here.32F here 5F to 37F Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 Sounds like spring. A Morch in Jan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamarack Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 OUr local met is such a tool. Starts the forecast this morning talking as if we've been under a barrage of cold for days and how it'll be nice to enjoy the next three days of 30+F weather. Then says "so get out those snowshoes" and enjoy it while you can". Ugh, dude, there's no snowshoeing around here on 2" of hardpacked snow/ice. Anyways, 1" RN on sunday will really set the mood for good 'ole winter. Don't know if you're referencing one of the PWM TV-casters or someone else. My impression is that most of that PWM group seem to take the urban-area chamber of commerce view - warmer is better, drier is better, snow/rain is always bad. Having those viewpoints is one thing, even if I disagree, but sometimes it seems to affect their forecasting as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted January 6, 2016 Author Share Posted January 6, 2016 BML with the 36/-12 today for a 48F range. Toss the MET (as usual) and go with the big diurnal day again tomorrow. It tried giving CON mid 30s today...validation was 43F Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 BML with the 36/-12 today for a 48F range. Toss the MET (as usual) and go with the big diurnal day again tomorrow. It tried giving CON mid 30s today...validation was 43F lol damn that beat us. How the heck did BML get to 36F? 36/-3, that's classic mountain valley compressional warming drying and heating the column out to 18% RH. Yeah high pressure and clear skies...the mountain valleys are going to go to town tonight for radiational cooling and then recover 8F per hour tomorrow morning, haha. Its actually already happening... 3pm temperature was 29F and 6pm temperature is 15F. Averaging 5F per hour drop right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 BML with the 36/-12 today for a 48F range. Toss the MET (as usual) and go with the big diurnal day again tomorrow. It tried giving CON mid 30s today...validation was 43FCongrats on being Warmer( with snowpack) than NYC 41 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 43F range Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted January 6, 2016 Author Share Posted January 6, 2016 Congrats on being Warmer( with snowpack) than NYC 41Was 39F here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROOSTA Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 Boarder-line comical; re: Variability on the GFS OP solutions beyond 5 days. Anyone want to take a stab as to why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarverWX Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 What is HM'S tweeter id? Sent from my SM-G900V using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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