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1/24-1/25 Major Winter Storm - S. IL, IN, MI and OH


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18 minutes ago, ILSNOW said:

so you looked at the 18z Euro and then made a call

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As good as that 11.2" looks over SB, the Euro is overdoing tomorrow's lake-effect locally. Probably subtract 4" from that for me.

The lake-effect on Monday looks decent though.

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Some of the recent CIPS analogs have included mid February 2021 and 2007. Sure, we could see suppression. As I'm sure most in here remember though, mid Feb 2021 at this lead time was pretty much a whiff for most of the Chicago metro. These juiced expansive Gulf lows seem to have a knack for trending north (maybe due to enhanced downstream ridging due to tremendous latent heat release?).

So the fact that much of the guidance is already bringing accums to the Chicago metro area perhaps should give some reason for optimism here.

Another big wildcard is the SLRs, which could be exceptionally high if lift is well aligned with the already modeled to be very deep DGZ in the very cold airmass. So even Kuchera ratios would potentially be too low. For reference, MDW 3SW had 0.51" of liquid equivalent in 15.7" of snow in 24 hours from 2/15 into 2/16/2021.

So if we see consistency in relatively high QPF getting relatively far north, that would likely imply stronger ascent to generate the higher QPF, which itself would likely support unusually high SLRs. For this element, recommend checking out the Cobb text snowfall output via IEM or PSU (the 18z NAM Bufkit Cobb output showed 30:1 ratios at KMDW).

Finally, the lake enhancement potential could be a noteworthy component of this, as occurred in the 2021 event (see MDW 3SW snow ob above), and back in 2007.





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4 minutes ago, RCNYILWX said:

Some of the recent CIPS analogs have included mid February 2021 and 2007. Sure, we could see suppression. As I'm sure most in here remember though, mid Feb 2021 at this lead time was pretty much a whiff for most of the Chicago metro. These juiced expansive Gulf lows seem to have a knack for trending north (maybe due to enhanced downstream ridging due to tremendous latent heat release?).

So the fact that much of the guidance is already bringing accums to the Chicago metro area perhaps should give some reason for optimism here.

Another big wildcard is the SLRs, which could be exceptionally high if lift is well aligned with the already modeled to be very deep DGZ in the very cold airmass. So even Kuchera ratios would potentially be too low. For reference, MDW 3SW had 0.51" of liquid equivalent in 15.7" of snow in 24 hours from 2/15 into 2/16/2021.

So if we see consistency in relatively high QPF getting relatively far north, that would likely imply stronger ascent to generate the higher QPF, which itself would likely support unusually high SLRs. Finally, the lake enhancement potential could be a noteworthy component of this, as occurred in the 2021 event (see MDW 3SW snow ob above), and back in 2007.


 

Thank you for confirming my call. Your insight is appreciated 

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