Jackstraw

That's the price you pay when an economy of production moves to an economy of service. Once you base your economy on consumption instead of production there's nothing to support it when demand for services hits the basement. A "Service" based economy is just that, it serves. We haven't had a "production" or "goods" based economy in 40 or 50 years. At least if you have a production based economy, when shit hits the fan, you can at least "make things" for yourself. If your economy is based on service, it's artificial. It's Bitcoin. Walmart is the largest employer in this country (which is absolutely embarrassing). What do they produce? Not digging at you, I'm in the same boat. I get it your a supply chain analyst. Most people never heard of the "supply chain" in detail until it was brought up during this and may not understand completely what it is. It's not just ships, ports trucks and/or warehouses. It's way deeper than the obvious on the surface. But the supply chain doesn't "make" anything. The supply chain creates jobs, but what flows through the supply chain has changed drastically over the last 40 years. Just like what I do for a living it doesn't "produce" a product that can be built or sold. I support a product or products that have already been built and sold. This country is at a true crossroads right now, for that matter the world is. The divisions are already deep, and like the stock market, are artificially being exasperated by selfish entities trying to exploit them at our expense for their own profit. We are facing something now that typical American denial isn't going to work. We're going to have to deal with it for a long time. The economic game that's been played by us world wide, the fact that we have dollar stores, the fact that we in this country get the best deals without making shit at the expense of impoverished slaves exploited by the the "walmarts" of the world. None of us can, nor should we, rely on the current leadership or the future leadership, to get us as a country through this. We need to stand up, and do the hard thing, but on our terms, not the fat cats. The economy is important, but this current economy isn't worth sacrificing lives for IMHO This is a crucial time right now in our society. We've been a junkie ignoring reality long enough. I hope our kids and grandkids won't have to forgive us and may thank us instead.

Partly true. There were definitely funding issues for continued research into vaccines for both due to the complexities of developing a vaccine against this kind of virus and of course profitability.. While flu viruses are similar to coronaviruses, the reason there's a flu vaccine every year is we have decades of vaccines to work off of and of course one can make a ton of money. Vaccines for SARS and MERS were being researched, with some success in animal trials, but not without some severe side effects. The research hasn't stopped. Funding may be part of it, but it's also the nature of these viruses that make it so difficult. I guess one could say it would be difficult to do human trials on a virus that's been "contained" because of the danger involved and probably couldn't make a buck on it (until now). MERS was thought to have been contained until 2015 when it reared it's head in South Korea so we've known these are lurking. Just as the argument we're having right now in this country about exposure and death vs the economy, I find it very ironic that a limiting factor in development of some sort of vaccine for Cov2 was due to the fact that SARS and MERS didn't kill a lot of folks therefore wasn't economically profitable. It's a dark comedic tragedy. https://www.bcm.edu/departments/molecular-virology-and-microbiology/emerging-infections-and-biodefense/sars-virus

These coronaviruses aren't smallpox or polio. They are mRNA viruses, you can't just shoot dead or semi dead virus in someone to build immunity. People really need to understand, this is the most contagious coronavirus we've ever seen, and THAT is the problem in the long run.

They don't have one for SARS or MERS yet, at least not a proven one. And thats damn near 20 and 10 years respectively. There are some iffy treatments, but containment was the key to both of them.

Yeah, you won't see me in a restaurant until 2021 and I'm still an active member in the NRA (no not that one). It was interesting that Holcomb said he had a call with the governors of KY and OH earlier in the day but not with IL or MI (although he did say they notified the latter states of IN's intentions early Fri.) So unless I'm missing something, I have not seen a new executive order on the IN corona page. In the past when the existing orders were extended there was a new executive order that superseded the current one. All I'm seeing is references to the backontrack.in.gov webpage. Such a reversal in direction I would assume would require a new executive order. I was hoping to be able to read that to see the finer points of how we move forward instead of a PP presentation. The current executive order expired at midnight Thurs. Some might think I'm nit picking but without a new executive order IN has now entered the foggy world of guidelines. Not like we weren't there already. Technically, the IDOH was entrusted with enforcement of the restrictions from day one, and only with investigative power. None of these restrictions were technically law except for some of the business restrictions (which fell underneath the INDOH. They basically changed the rules that health inspectors use when they inspect your business). People could congregate in groups in someones back yard (and they did) without fear of law enforcement dispersing or throwing them in jail (which really makes me wonder about these extremely small numbers of protestors, against what?). I digress, easy to find rabbit holes in all of this lol. I guess my point is, technically the previous executive order and all that was in it has been allowed to expire. The current stage 2 guidelines don't kick in until Monday. Is there technically a free for all this weekend? I mean "technically" without official public notification every restaurant in the state could open up this weekend. If I'm missing the legal document please point me to it. I thought IN was being a little smart about this but my state just took me for a walk and now all I have is a leash and no hand and I want to chase a rabbit

The site for the new guidelines is now up. https://www.backontrack.in.gov/

I agree. I expected some opening up, this was a little more than I expected. As he said, if things start to go south they may re-instate some of the current restrictions. I'd like to see specific guidelines that could cause that reaction. The one thing I did not see that I think deviates from the federal guidelines is for every stage the federal guidelines said continued 14 day drop in new cases. The Governor stated they expect to see an increase in cases as they move through the opening over the next 4 weeks. I find that a bit discerning. Hopefully the new order will address some of these things specifically. If the responsibility is being pushed more to individual citizens, if there is a sudden spike statewide in cases, IMO it's going to be very hard for the state to reimpose restrictions. The public will react like 10 year old let out of the corner, does the same bad thing, then gets a spanking.

I know it's not exactly the SE but 25 filtered TOR reports late afternoon/evening Wed moving into Thurs. Take the model runs if you want, they didn't pick up on this many tornadic events on the 22nd. Still a pretty volatile environment overnight as the system moves east. There's still some pretty established updrafts in the warm sector across central/southern LA. Plenty of ingredients to work with.

Jasper cell is wide open, moving into areas with VTP numbers around 7-8 per meso. This thing could be a monster.

Both of those storms confirmed TOR warned. TOR Emergency for Jasper TX

Ongoing TDS on the TX cell (might be cows with it's location). This one and the one along the Red River could be long trackers as they both move east

MD on that SE TX supercell getting ready to move into LA... Mesoscale Discussion 445 < Previous MD Mesoscale Discussion 0445 NWS Storm Prediction Center Norman OK 0553 PM CDT Wed Apr 22 2020 Areas affected...Parts of southeast Texas Concerning...Tornado Watch 135... Valid 222253Z - 222330Z The severe weather threat for Tornado Watch 135 continues. SUMMARY...SUMMARY Based on recent radar and environmental data, a strong to intense tornado with potential peak winds of 130 to 165 mph (EF2-EF3) is likely ongoing. DISCUSSION...DISCUSSION Recent radar signatures from KGRK as of 2250Z reveal an intense supercell characterized by a 0.5 degree rotational velocity of at least 70 kt. A tornadic debris signature has also been noted on recent radar scans. These signatures are occurring in an environment characterized by STP between 5 and 6. Previous signatures within similar environments produced tornado-damage-estimated wind speeds from 130 to 165 mph and confidence is high for a strong to intense tornado. A longer-track tornado is ongoing and may continue based on the rotational velocity duration and the storm moving within a favorable downstream environment. ..Squitieri/Grams.. 04/22/2020

Stout dew front along the tailend of that line on the OK/TX border, 25-30 degree drop in dews as it passes

Massive hook on radar on that storm

I agree. We've had a couple close calls up here that didn't pan out thankfully. A lot of folks from the Easter system have no place to shelter in now. Although numbers may not show in the grand scheme, seems like common sense if you get whacked by one of these systems people and responders chance of exposure to CV locally is going to go up exponentially. Hoping for a pattern change. We're only a couple weeks away from cane season to start kicking in in earnest and for the last 3 or 4 weeks it seem's like there's been some kind of stalled front/weakness draped across an already steamy Gulf. An early season home brew, be it a cane or a torrential flooder, could just play havoc, putting a larger population and corresponding responders at risk. Closing shelters for tornadoes recently what are we going to do if/when a tropical system comes barreling through? As much of a weather nerd I am, I hope mother nature cuts us some slack for the next couple of months.