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Another big Sept rain event between roughly midnight Friday morning and midnight Sunday morning (bulk 9/29-30/2023)


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1 minute ago, Dark Star said:

So a State of Emergency was put into effect for the entire state of New Jersey yesterday afternoon, after the heaviest of rains were over, which only affected the eastern most counties?  Couldn't any simpleton declare that?

Its all about getting federal money for recovery. They issue SOE's when there is a stiff breeze these days, its ridiculous. I mean they are even issuing them for 6-10" snow storms, they never did that years ago. Its getting out of hand IMO. Issue a State of Emergency when its truly needed, no wonder why the public doesn't take it seriously.

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Two day amount sample via reported CoCoRaHs data. Click for clarity.  Highest a little over 10" NJ coast. 

Also added NYS Mesonet. 

JFK highest daily rainfall 'ever' since POR began 1948 (8.05"), and CP #9 wettest day at 5.48 with POR back to 1869.

Will add a little summary to the originating section post tomorrow morning when all data in.

 

Added 18z/28 HRRR for comparison.  HRRR probably the best inside of 36 hours. 

 

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1 hour ago, Stormlover74 said:

Tomorrow starts a dry early September like stretch

I'm looking forward to next week. A much needed warm drying out period. We might get up to 82 degrees Tuesday and Wednesday. Looks like our last taste of summer. The following week looks very cool with first frost threats to the north and west. 

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4 hours ago, bluewave said:

9.06” at Valley Stream is one of the heaviest events of all-time  for Western Nassau.

Nassau County...
Valley Stream                9.06 in   0906 PM 09/29   CWOP

Right up there with Aug 2011’s event pre-Irene that had 10” in Lido Beach. And probably add a half inch to that from the rain this morning. 

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1 hour ago, MANDA said:

Two day event total here = .99".  Glad my area missed out on the excessive totals.  Just don't need any additional rainfall for a while.  Nice to go into Fall / Winter with wet ground but I've kind of had enough.

That's how I feel too. I was glad to miss out on the big amounts with this event (1.38" here) because we've had more than enough the last few months.

I am glad that the rain came in time to help the gardening season. I was worried it was gonna be a bad season because May and most of June were so dry. It appeared we were heading into a drought, but thankfully the wet pattern started at the end of June. Just in time. It ended up being a great gardening season with some of the best crops ever. I'm still getting a ton of eggplants right now. 

But enough is enough. I was rooting hard for all our heavy rain/storm events this summer, but I finally got burned out on it. I didn't look forward to these last 2 events. The ground has been saturated for a long time and we don't need any more rain. Hopefully we're done with significant rain for awhile. 

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4 minutes ago, winterwx21 said:

That's how I feel too. I was glad to miss out on the big amounts with this event (1.38" here) because we've had more than enough the last few months.

I am glad that the rain came in time to help the gardening season. I was worried it was gonna be a bad season because May and most of June were so dry. It appeared we were heading into a drought, but thankfully the wet pattern started at the end of June. Just in time. It ended up being a great gardening season with some of the best crops ever. I'm still getting a ton of eggplants right now. 

But enough is enough. I was rooting hard for all our heavy rain/storm events this summer, but I finally got burned out on it. I didn't look forward to these last 2 events. The ground has been saturated for a long time and we don't need any more rain. Hopefully we're done with significant rain for awhile. 

And the damage that it has done let's not forget

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1 hour ago, winterwx21 said:

I'm looking forward to next week. A much needed warm drying out period. We might get up to 82 degrees Tuesday and Wednesday. Looks like our last taste of summer. The following week looks very cool with first frost threats to the north and west. 

Looking forward to both...the warm dry period and then the cooler first frost threat N&W.

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2 hours ago, jm1220 said:

Right up there with Aug 2011’s event pre-Irene that had 10” in Lido Beach. And probably add a half inch to that from the rain this morning. 

Yeah, I am thinking there there were spots in the 5 towns and Far Rockaway with around 11.00” since the radar estimate in Valley Stream was around 2.50” too low. 


Nassau County... Valley Stream 9.06 in 0906 PM 09/29 CWOP

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Event ends up in top ten (or top 20 for 2d) daily rainfalls for NYC: 

 

Top 30 daily rainfalls (includes all 3.99" or greater) and top 25 2d rainfalls, NYC 1869-2023


Rank ___ Rain ___ Date ___________ 2d total (rank, see list below table also)

_01 _____ 8.28 ___ Sep 23, 1882 __ 10.62 (22-23)_ (rank 2)

_02 _____ 7.57 ___ Apr 15, 2007 ___ 8.47 (15-16) __ (rank 4)

_03 _____ 7.40 ___ Nov 8, 1977 ____ 9.19 (7-8) ____ (rank 3)

_04 _____ 7.33 ___ Oct 9, 1903 ___ 11.63 (8-9) ____ (rank 1)

_05 _____ 7.13 ___ Sep 1, 2021 _____ 7.23 (1-2) _____ (rank 6)

_06 _____ 5.81 ___ Aug 14, 2011 ___ 6.37 (14-15) __ (rank 11)

_07 _____ 5.60 ___ Nov 8, 1972 ____ 5.60 (8) _____ (rank 20) __ note, not daily record or 2d record, would be for any day(s) in Nov except (7-) 8th

_08 _____ 5.54 ___ Sep 21, 1966 ___ 5.64 (21-22) _ (rank 19)

_09 _____ 5.48 ___ Sep 29, 2023 __ 5.86 (28-29) _ (rank 16)

_10 _____ 5.02 ___ Sep 16, 1999 ___ 5.44 (15-16) _ (rank 20)

_11 _____ 4.98 ___ Oct 1, 1913 _____ 5.28 (1-2) ____ (rank 22)

_12 _____ 4.97 ___ Apr 30, 2014 ___ 5.09 (30-1 May)_ (rank 24)

_13 _____ 4.86 ___ Sep 8, 1934 ____ 5.48 (7-8) ____ (rank 21) 

_t14 ____ 4.80 ___ Aug 20, 1873 ___ 4.89 (19-20) __ (rank 25)

_t14 ____ 4.80 ___ Aug 16, 1909 ___ 5.15 (16-17) ___ (rank 23)

_16 _____ 4.64 ___ Aug 10, 1990 ___ 6.14 (10-11) ___ (rank 15)

_17 _____ 4.45 ___ Aug 21, 2021 ___ 7.12 (21-22) ___ (rank 7)

_18 _____ 4.35 ___ Oct 19, 1996 ___ 4.50 (19-20) ___ (rank 33)

_19 _____ 4.30 ___ Sep 19, 1894 ___ 5.16 (18-19) ___ (rank 22)

(t19 ____ 4.30 ___ Oct 8, 1903 _____ part of rank 1st 2d total above, Oct 8-9, 1903 11.63")

_21 ____ 4.29 ___ June 26, 1884 __ 4.74 (25-26) __ (rank 27)

_22 ____ 4.26 ___ Oct 12, 2005 ____ 7.01 (12-13) ___ (rank 8)

_23 ____ 4.19 ___ Aug 21, 1888 ____ 4.32 (21-22) __

_t24 ___ 4.16 ___ Sep 15, 1933 ____ 7.00 (14-15) __ (rank 9)

_t24 ___ 4.16 ___ Aug 27, 1971 ____ 5.96 (27-28) __ (rank 16)

_t24 ___ 4.16 ___ June 7, 2013 ____ 4.64 (7-8) _____ (rank t28)

_27 ____ 4.10 ___ Aug 9, 1942 _____ 4.25 (9-10) ___

_28 ____ 4.09 ___ Oct 7, 1972 _____ 4.38 (6-7) _____ 

_t29____ 4.05 ___ Oct 4, 1877 _____ 4.07 (4-5) _____

_t29____ 4.05 ___ Sep 21, 1938 ___ 5.74 (20-21) ___ (rank 18)

_31 ____ 3.99 ___ Aug 28, 2011 ___ 6.87 (27-28) __ (rank 10)

(only top 30 2-day totals are ranked)

(only larger of two possible 2-day totals are considered for ranking)

 

These events spread over two calendar days were in top 31 but not above 1-d top 30 list, including

7.76" Sep 13-14, 1944 (rank 5) __ 3.94" + 3.82" (daily records)

6.32" Aug 12-13, 1955 (rank 12) _ 3.62" + 2.70" (daily records)

6.28" Sep 3-4 1969 (rank 13) ____ 3.32" + 2.96" (3.32" daily record 3rd, 4th 1913 had 3.48")

6.23" Sep 17-18, 1874 (rank 14) __ 3.28" + 2.95" (not daily records)

4.83" fell Aug 8-9, 1976 (rank 26) ____ 3.90" on Aug 9 not a daily record (see 1942)

4.64" fell Sep 28-29, 2004 (rank t28) _ 3.84" Sep 28 was daily record

4.62" fell July 24-25, 1997 (rank 30) _ 3.75" July 24 was daily and July 1d record

4.61" fell Aug 30-31, 1911 (rank 31) __ 3.76" Aug 31 was daily record

4.59" fell Aug 17-18, 1879 (rank 32) __ 3.95" Aug 18 was daily record

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8 minutes ago, jm1220 said:

Yeah still. 

Yeah, it’s not easy living on a barrier island these days. I got flooded out of my basement apartment in Long Beach by Agnes in June of 1972. We found a new apartment about a year later and settled on no more basement apartments. The rest of the 70s were relatively quiet for flooding outside the West End. My friend with a basement in his house picked up flooding with the spring 1983 deluge. Then the record 5.15”in under 2 hours shut down our drinking water during June 1995. Flooding situation was pretty quiet for another 10 years until the October 2005 record event which flooded out most LB basements. Followed up a while later by the record 10” in less than 12 hours on 8-14-11. Then the Irene storm surge flooding a few weeks later. Then the off the charts extreme Sandy tidal surge flooding in October 2012. I moved out of LB by chance months before Sandy hit. So not sure about all the local flood specifics after that time.

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5 minutes ago, bluewave said:

Yeah, it’s not easy living on a barrier island these days. I got flooded out of my basement apartment in Long Beach by Agnes in June of 1972. We found a new apartment about a year later and settled on no more basement apartments. The rest of the 70s were relatively quiet for flooding outside the West End. My friend with a basement in his house picked up flooding with the spring 1983 deluge. Then the record 5.15”in under 2 hours shut down our drinking water during June 1995. Flooding situation was pretty quiet for another 10 years until the October 2005 record event which flooded out most LB basements. Followed up a while later by the record 10” in less than 12 hours on 8-14-11. Then the Irene storm surge flooding a few weeks later. Then the off the charts extreme Sandy tidal surge flooding in October 2012. I moved out of LB by chance months before Sandy hit. So not sure about all the local flood specifics after that time.

Me too, moved out of Lb in June 2012, I had 6” of water in the apartment during Irene, so likely several feet during sandy.

with this current event the handicap women who lives below me in lynbrook had 5’ of water. I lost most of my pride and joy veggie garden, which is trivial in comparison. I’m currently at my dads in wantagh dealing with his basement as he’s in Spain. Not a fun 2 days for me, after dealing with flooding for 12 hours at work on the uws yesterday. Unfortunately this is our new normal. 

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