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1 hour ago, the_other_guy said:

The only people that dismiss a site here are those talking about a tree canopy in Central Park. all you have to do is land Newark airport and see why it’s a hot hole. Low flat slab in swampland surrounded by industry.

 

 

 

The mental gymnastics are wild.  It's gotten so absurd there's no response to most of this stuff anymore.  I hate the heat and the fact we continue to warm but I don't deny it's existence.  

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28 minutes ago, IrishRob17 said:

Will feel cold? Ok, as long as the hoodies stay in the closet because anyone with traditional values knows that hoodies stay in the closet/drawer for at least another month, if not two. 
Up to 3.51" since yesterday, @Rjay can take this severe and rain anytime he is ready. 

i disagree i saw people wearing hoodies when morning temps were near 80 late july early august.

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2 minutes ago, nycwinter said:

i hate just wearing shirts  i mean almost the second week of september should be jacket season already..

I miss the cool late August and September nights.  We still get them but less often.  It's gotten ridiculous over the last decade. 

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4 minutes ago, nycwinter said:

i hate just wearing shirts  i mean almost the second week of september should be jacket season already..

I hear ya but we have to embrace change, it ain't going anywhere. I HATE heat and humidity, it's just not in my DNA, but I also can't bury my head in the sand to try to hide what our reality is these days. 

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5 hours ago, Rjay said:

The mental gymnastics are wild.  It's gotten so absurd there's no response to most of this stuff anymore.  I hate the heat and the fact we continue to warm but I don't deny it's existence.  

 

5 hours ago, IrishRob17 said:

I hear ya but we have to embrace change, it ain't going anywhere. I HATE heat and humidity, it's just not in my DNA, but I also can't bury my head in the sand to try to hide what our reality is these days. 

I can't figure out where or when this shift in our forum happened.  You literally have people who downplay heat and will keep shifting their arguments just because they hate it themselves.  I just can't stand the contrary nature anymore.

I love this warmth, but does that mean I downplay our biggest blizzards or arctic fronts?  Of course not.

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11 hours ago, Rjay said:

Fake heat. Fake sensor. Cherry picked site.  Too much blacktop.  It actually didn't feel that bad.  

I get it that there are many who would like to go back to our cooler climate of days past. I am not a big fan of so much warmth either. But we can clearly see that Newark and urban NE NJ is right in line with the regionally top 5 warmest start to September.

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5 hours ago, JerseyWx said:

 

I can't figure out where or when this shift in our forum happened.  You literally have people who downplay heat and will keep shifting their arguments just because they hate it themselves.  I just can't stand the contrary nature anymore.

I love this warmth, but does that mean I downplay our biggest blizzards or arctic fronts?  Of course not.

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The next 8 days are averaging    74degs.(67/81) or +4.

Only CFS has any real BN T's over the next 45 days.

Reached 83 here yesterday at Noon.

Today:  81-85, wind variable, scattered clouds later for awhile, 75 tomorrow AM.

76*(98%RH) at 7am.      80* at 9am.      81* at Noon.      83* at 1pm.     79* at 4pm.        77* at 7pm.   

 

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12 hours ago, forkyfork said:

how many nyc residents live in a forest?

That’s really the point when we now see from the NYC micronet how upper 90s was the norm for maxes during this heatwave in the densely packed neighborhoods around Brooklyn and Queens. So letting the Central Park ASOS OBS drift so far from reality with the tree growth doesn’t really make any sense. These urban inner city neighborhoods were hotter than Newark this week. The UHI in Queens is much stronger than Newark with 2 days not dropping below 80°. 
 

Cornoa, Queens at ground level.

9/8…92/75

9/7….98/81

9/6….96/80

9/5….94/78

9/4…..90/77

9/3…..93/69

 

 

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9 minutes ago, the_other_guy said:

as many as live on a big open field next to a runway :)

The airports were actually cooler this week due to the influence of the sea breezes. The ASOS units at the airports are located on grassy strips. Many of ours are close to water like EWR,LGA, and JFK. But some would say how about the tarmac and all that concrete? Well  the sensors are probably placed similarly to a backyard Wunderground station in any of those airport neighborhoods. Heck, there may even be more grass than around the average residents houses in those neighborhoods. The neighborhoods contain miles and miles of paved driveways, sidewalks, and streets. So the airport represents the same land use as the local residential neighborhoods with probably more grass. 

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12 hours ago, Rjay said:

I miss the cool late August and September nights.  We still get them but less often.  It's gotten ridiculous over the last decade. 

Not just that, but as a mariner I can tell you these constant disturbances, even the smaller ones offshore, really have changed things for us. We try to tell the regulators that closing fishing seasons in summer and opening them in the fall is not working for us, but they don't listen. Today we were set to go to Breezy Point from Sayreville NJ but had to cancel when the pea soup rolled in with 70% chance of thunderstorms on SE winds, plus an ongoing swell that is reaching inshore. I can take a little rain, but lightning and hail on a small boat far from home port ( a few miles is far when you're on a small craft and lightning is striking all around you while you get tossed about like The Minnow ) isn't my idea of fun. Plus, it is really uncomfortable out. I miss the cooler days of late Aug and Sept. Pea soup, thick fog and humidity and absurd temps make me want to hit the road for Maine....

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75 / 72 southerly flow and cloudy.  Where / when the sun comes out it warms up quickly to low/,mid 80s.  In the southerly humid flow till Wed (9/13) overall warm , humid mainly cloudy so nothing more than 80s when and where the sun is out, and potential slow moving soakers.   Lee leaning right on latest guidance.  By mid month more NW/W flow brings in some dryer and near normal conditons.  Still see ridging long the EC towards the end of the month to end warmer.

 

https://cdn.star.nesdis.noaa.gov/GOES16/ABI/GIFS/GOES16-NE-GEOCOLOR-600x600.gif

 

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1 hour ago, bluewave said:

That’s really the point when we now see from the NYC micronet how upper 90s was the norm for maxes during this heatwave in the densely packed neighborhoods around Brooklyn and Queens. So letting the Central Park ASOS OBS drift so far from reality with the tree growth doesn’t really make any sense. These urban inner city neighborhoods were hotter than Newark this week. The UHI in Queens is much stronger than Newark with 2 days not dropping below 80°. 
 

Cornoa, Queens at ground level.

9/8…92/75

9/7….98/81

9/6….96/80

9/5….94/78

9/4…..90/77

9/3…..93/69

 

One of the largest contrasts i recall was July 2006 NYC/ EWR (NE-NJ) if you recall June 2006 was quite wet and really enhanced the overgrowth effects.

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