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Second Winter Storm Threat - Oct 29/30


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Phil what's your gut instinct on our area?

i think it'll be extraordinary tough to overcome 55F sst for a good chunk of the event (first 2/3rds?) but i'd expect at least some frozen precip even out here once the flow backs a bit given just how cold everything/everywhere else is. it's the lowest levels that are mild for this general area...like the bottom 1500 feet of the column or so and that'll be a snow-stopper until that layer can get beaten down some. i suppose if we have really extreme precip rates we could flip or mix earlier if we end up with a layer thats like 2 or 3C and not 5 or 6C. if it were even just a few weeks later in the season - like turkey day - i'd be more optimistic on primarily frozen precip. i think there's a pretty serious wind threat too...probably in the 00z to 08z time frame.

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guess any hopes of snow for NNE has gone down the drain :(

Me and powdahfreak will be :(

Terrible blue balls up here...ugh

Man, are we really going to get blue balled for a second straight system? come on...

Don't take this the wrong way, but you're really getting annoying. We know you're getting blue balled, you've posted about it 8 times.

1) It's October.

2) You're in the NEK of VT. You'll see plenty of snow.

3) Complaining about it isn't really going to make it snow this weekend.

good day

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Well when you move well inland you gotta realize that probably only about 25% of the storms that nail SNE work out here ..or in northern VT.

It's nice when we can share in it, but "our" storms tend to track from like NYC to Boston...so you gotta wish rain on the poor SNE folks. LOL

I may get something here ...like on Boxing Day when I managed 7 inches and got to share in it a bit.

Man, are we really going to get blue balled for a second straight system? come on...

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i think it'll be extraordinary tough to overcome 55F sst for a good chunk of the event (first 2/3rds?) but i'd expect at least some frozen precip even out here once the flow backs a bit given just how cold everything/everywhere else is. it's the lowest levels that are mild for this general area...like the bottom 1500 feet of the column or so and that'll be a snow-stopper until that layer can get beaten down some. i suppose if we have really extreme precip rates we could flip or mix earlier if we end up with a layer thats like 2 or 3C and not 5 or 6C. if it were even just a few weeks later in the season - like turkey day - i'd be more optimistic on primarily frozen precip. i think there's a pretty serious wind threat too...probably in the 00z to 08z time frame.

Thanks and I agree. I do like the accumulation maps the models are spitting out because it mostly shows what you're talking about with the SST's. If it played out as modeled I see a situation where you and I are in the proverbial wet boat while an area just to my west a mile is mainly non-accumulating mush, back by 195/495 they see accumulations just back from the marine air.

Water temps are 55-56 in Boston Harbor and all the way east. Any marine influence off that water is going to roast the BL.

Amazing though, it is so cold aloft on these models it could conceivably be overcome in some incredible precip rates.

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