Bubbler86 Posted Monday at 05:02 PM Share Posted Monday at 05:02 PM 1 minute ago, stormy said: I'm going by the Staunton official records. A thermometer exposed to the rays of the sun or other artificial heating can register significantly higher than actual air temperature. Even reflective heat can artificially inflate the temperature. My west facing analog therm has hit 100+ several times already this year :-) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pazzo83 Posted Monday at 05:03 PM Share Posted Monday at 05:03 PM 1 minute ago, stormy said: I'm going by the Staunton official records. A thermometer exposed to the rays of the sun or other artificial heating can register significantly higher than actual air temperature. Even reflective heat can artificially inflate the temperature. i was being facetious lol. I do remember somewhat frequent brownouts due to heat in the mid-late 1990s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormy Posted Monday at 05:28 PM Share Posted Monday at 05:28 PM 20 minutes ago, pazzo83 said: i was being facetious lol. I do remember somewhat frequent brownouts due to heat in the mid-late 1990s. LOL, I was building a case! AI makes it easy in today's world. I should tell you sometime about all the acrobatics I went thru during the late 60's to construct a temperature measuring shelter to NWS standards!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midatlanticweather Posted Monday at 06:14 PM Share Posted Monday at 06:14 PM LWX Discussion had some good Climate Summary data 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowenOutThere Posted Monday at 06:15 PM Share Posted Monday at 06:15 PM Coaching this week is gonna suck. We have a B-meet Wednesday which may be rather miserable as well. I’ll push to cancel if excessive heat warnings are issued. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nw baltimore wx Posted Monday at 06:17 PM Share Posted Monday at 06:17 PM 2 minutes ago, SnowenOutThere said: Coaching this week is gonna suck. We have a B-meet Wednesday which may be rather miserable as well. I’ll push to cancel if excessive heat warnings are issued. PDS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EC609 Posted Monday at 06:24 PM Share Posted Monday at 06:24 PM Originally from Fairfax so I follow you guys a lot but currently it's 89/80 here in East Central Illinois. Something to look forward to. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pazzo83 Posted Monday at 07:11 PM Share Posted Monday at 07:11 PM the fact that we are easily getting into the upper 80s today is concerning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pazzo83 Posted Monday at 07:12 PM Share Posted Monday at 07:12 PM 47 minutes ago, EC609 said: Originally from Fairfax so I follow you guys a lot but currently it's 89/80 here in East Central Illinois. Something to look forward to. yeah that "corn sweat" must be maxing out lol. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pazzo83 Posted Monday at 07:26 PM Share Posted Monday at 07:26 PM man - we're looking at an easy 89-90F probably for the high on NE / ENE wind today. Yikes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSSN+ Posted Monday at 07:37 PM Share Posted Monday at 07:37 PM 9 minutes ago, pazzo83 said: man - we're looking at an easy 89-90F probably for the high on NE / ENE wind today. Yikes. We cooked. 84 was the predicted high here today it’s 89 currently. Might close in on mid 90s tomorrow. Wed-Sat going to be brutal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormy Posted Monday at 08:36 PM Share Posted Monday at 08:36 PM 3 hours ago, Bubbler86 said: My west facing analog therm has hit 100+ several times already this year :-) You need to get that thermometer in ventilated shade, all the time. This is very important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAPE Posted Monday at 08:43 PM Share Posted Monday at 08:43 PM Quote URGENT - WEATHER MESSAGE National Weather Service Mount Holly NJ 210 PM EDT Mon Jun 29 2026 DEZ002>004-MDZ012-015-019-020-301000- /O.EXA.KPHI.XH.A.0001.260702T1600Z-260705T0000Z/ Kent-Inland Sussex-Delaware Beaches-Kent MD-Queen Annes-Talbot- Caroline- Including the cities of Georgetown, Centreville, Denton, Chestertown, Easton, Dover, and Rehoboth Beach 210 PM EDT Mon Jun 29 2026 ...EXTREME HEAT WATCH IN EFFECT FROM THURSDAY AFTERNOON THROUGH SATURDAY EVENING... * WHAT...Dangerously hot conditions with heat index values up to 110 possible. * WHERE...In Delaware, Kent, Delaware Beaches, and Inland Sussex Counties. In Maryland, Caroline, Kent MD, Queen Annes, and Talbot Counties. * WHEN...From Thursday afternoon through Saturday evening. * IMPACTS...Heat related illnesses increase significantly during extreme heat and high humidity events. PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS... Drink plenty of fluids, stay in an air-conditioned room, stay out of the sun, and check up on relatives and neighbors. Big heat is kinda boring as a weather event. Just have to deal. Luckily it wont last that long this time. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAPE Posted Monday at 08:47 PM Share Posted Monday at 08:47 PM 7 minutes ago, stormy said: You need to get that thermometer in ventilated shade, all the time. This is very important. For accuracy measuring the actual temperature, it is important. My station gets "sun soaked" briefly early afternoon this time of year, and I discard those readings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowenOutThere Posted Monday at 09:53 PM Share Posted Monday at 09:53 PM I find the argument over how to measure temperature so interesting. A big point of my climate near the ground course was the idea of what makes a measure standard and for who is that standard useful. For instance, we take the 2m shade as our “normal” temperature measure. Yet, conditions near the ground are almost always subadabatic during daytime conditions and can be several degrees (even 10+ in extreme circumstances!) degrees C warmer closer to 1m and below. Not to mention we take the shaded measurement when midday in most environments (besides forest) sun is dominant. We also try to control environments to be flat and clear; meanwhile, the majority of lived places aren’t that! Of course, the 2m shade/open areas are the standard due to it accounting for variables, but too often we forget those complications exist in the first place. Makes me wonder if there should be “real feel” weather stations say 1.5m on the street of NYC or DC where people actually experience weather to best capture the experience of how weather impacts people. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVclimo Posted Monday at 10:16 PM Share Posted Monday at 10:16 PM 8 hours ago, nw baltimore wx said: If you want to really suffer, I hope you’re baling hay. 1980. Worst summer of my life. I worked in an orchard picking apples and peaches that summer. If I hadn't been 17 years old, I doubt I would have survived it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAPE Posted Monday at 10:24 PM Share Posted Monday at 10:24 PM 13 hours ago, SnowenOutThere said: I find the argument over how to measure temperature so interesting. A big point of my climate near the ground course was the idea of what makes a measure standard and for who is that standard useful. For instance, we take the 2m shade as our “normal” temperature measure. Yet, conditions near the ground are almost always subadabatic during daytime conditions and can be several degrees (even 10+ in extreme circumstances!) degrees C warmer closer to 1m and below. Not to mention we take the shaded measurement when midday in most environments (besides forest) sun is dominant. We also try to control environments to be flat and clear; meanwhile, the majority of lived places aren’t that! Of course, the 2m shade/open areas are the standard due to it accounting for variables, but too often we forget those complications exist in the first place. Makes me wonder if there should be “real feel” weather stations say 1.5m on the street of NYC or DC where people actually experience weather to best capture the experience of how weather impacts people. A few practical things to consider. Fundamentally temperature is a measure of the average(random) atomic kinetic energy of a substance. There is a sensor involved in this measurement- usually a Pt 100 RTD. It produces a predictable change in resistance with a change in temperature. Errors associated with this measurement include self heating(electrical current flowing through the resistance of the sensor = heat). Minor effect. Absorbing solar energy in direct sunlight has a similar effect- but it produces a more significant error(due to sensor heating) while measurement of actual air temperature is the objective. That can't be accomplished in direct sunlight. The 2 meter/in shade 'requirement' allows consistency in the measurement regardless of location. That became the standard. It could have easily been at some other level, but 2 meters off the ground is where we live. One of the topics I teach is temperature measurement for industrial processes- so I am a bit geeky about the topic lol. 2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAPE Posted Tuesday at 12:32 AM Share Posted Tuesday at 12:32 AM @SnowenOutThere Metrology is important(essential) to meteorology. Not sure that it is taught in a meteorology program(probably not), but imo it probably should be. If not, you can get a more profound understanding of some of the questions you seek by learning a bit more about it. Just a suggestion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pazzo83 Posted Tuesday at 12:48 AM Share Posted Tuesday at 12:48 AM High of 89F at DCA, 90F here. not great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nw baltimore wx Posted Tuesday at 12:50 AM Share Posted Tuesday at 12:50 AM 2 hours ago, WVclimo said: I worked in an orchard picking apples and peaches that summer. If I hadn't been 17 years old, I doubt I would have survived it. I was also 17. Skinny, 110 lbs, and allergic to hay. It was miserable. My older brother had it worse tho. He cut tobacco that summer in Calvert county. He’s still scarred. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eskimo Joe Posted Tuesday at 02:06 AM Share Posted Tuesday at 02:06 AM It's 10 pm and our Baltimore City mesonet site, which is located on about 10 acres of grass, is still 80°. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormtracker Posted Tuesday at 02:53 AM Share Posted Tuesday at 02:53 AM 10 hours ago, yoda said: For tomorrow URGENT - WEATHER MESSAGE National Weather Service Baltimore MD/Washington DC 1243 PM EDT Mon Jun 29 2026 MDZ502-WVZ050-055-502-504-506-300100- /O.NEW.KLWX.HT.Y.0003.260630T1500Z-260701T0000Z/ Central and Eastern Allegany-Hampshire-Hardy-Eastern Grant- Eastern Mineral-Eastern Pendleton- 1243 PM EDT Mon Jun 29 2026 ...HEAT ADVISORY IN EFFECT FROM 11 AM TO 8 PM EDT TUESDAY... * WHAT...Heat index values up to 102 expected. * WHERE...In Maryland, Central and Eastern Allegany County. In West Virginia, Eastern Grant, Eastern Mineral, Eastern Pendleton, Hampshire, and Hardy Counties. * WHEN...From 11 AM to 8 PM EDT Tuesday. * IMPACTS...Hot temperatures and high humidity may cause heat illnesses. PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS... Drink plenty of fluids, stay in an air-conditioned room, stay out of the sun, and check up on relatives and neighbors. Take extra precautions when outside. Wear lightweight and loose fitting clothing. Try to limit strenuous activities to early morning or evening. Take action when you see symptoms of heat exhaustion and heat stroke. To reduce risk during outdoor work, the Occupational Safety and Health Administration recommends scheduling frequent rest breaks in shaded or air conditioned environments. Anyone overcome by heat should be moved to a cool and shaded location. Heat stroke is an emergency! In cases of heat stroke, call 9 1 1. If we don’t get an Excessive Heat Watch/Warning, we’ve failed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravensrule Posted Tuesday at 03:24 AM Share Posted Tuesday at 03:24 AM 34 minutes ago, stormtracker said: If we don’t get an Excessive Heat Watch/Warning, we’ve failed. Oh don't worry we will, it's more guaranteed than me making dirty jokes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVclimo Posted Tuesday at 03:36 AM Share Posted Tuesday at 03:36 AM My point and click now has 100 on Saturday, 96 on Sunday and 94 on Monday. I had thought the worst of the heat was expected to subside by then. Not surprised though. July is gonna July. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arlwx12 Posted Tuesday at 07:25 AM Share Posted Tuesday at 07:25 AM Hear=t advisories posted for virtually the entire LWX area. WWA Summary for Heat Advisory Issued by LWX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WxUSAF Posted Tuesday at 10:38 AM Share Posted Tuesday at 10:38 AM Storms Wednesday-friday look isolated at best. Maybe scattered Saturday, with far NW favored. Potentially widespread Sunday and Monday. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WxWatcher007 Posted Tuesday at 01:18 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 01:18 PM 10 hours ago, stormtracker said: If we don’t get an Excessive Heat Watch/Warning, we’ve failed. lol what the hell is the criteria down there??? A heat advisory seems…insufficient. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George BM Posted Tuesday at 01:23 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 01:23 PM 3 minutes ago, WxWatcher007 said: lol what the hell is the criteria down there??? A heat advisory seems…insufficient. Yeah, big heat coming. We are now under an Extreme Heat Watch (formerly 'Excessive Heat Watch') for Thursday morning through at least Friday evening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSSN+ Posted Tuesday at 01:44 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 01:44 PM 84 feels like 90 at 945am on the coolest day of the heat wave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eskimo Joe Posted Tuesday at 01:49 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 01:49 PM 06z GFS/Euro try to keep the upper 90s to 100° through Sunday, 7/5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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