[email protected] Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago It will happen at the eleventh hour, if it does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhiEaglesfan712 Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago 46 minutes ago, snowman19 said: What’s the target date/dates for the arctic cold and east coast snowstorm pattern to start up again? For this year, it's finished. The sun angle is going to prevent us from getting arctic cold. As for the next east coast snowstorm pattern, your guess is as good as mine. I can guarantee you, though, that there probably won't be one until at least November. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago 16 minutes ago, PhiEaglesfan712 said: For this year, it's finished. The sun angle is going to prevent us from getting arctic cold. As for the next east coast snowstorm pattern, your guess is as good as mine. I can guarantee you, though, that there probably won't be one until at least November. Sun angle has nothing to do with cold with a cold pattern in place. Your predictions this winter have been outrageous . 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoulderWX Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago 54 and sunny with a real feel of 60 - bye bye snow! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthShoreWx Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago 2 hours ago, EastonSN+ said: If we have seen the last snowfall for NYC this season, the average snowfall for this decade so far would be 20.43 The average for the 30 year period of 1970 through 1999 was 21.91 NYC is behind by 1.47 inches. The 1970s avg was 21.25. NYC is behind by 0.82 The # of above average snowfall winters from 1970 through 1999 was 4 (including 78/79 which was 29.4). NYC has already received 2 above average snowfall winters in 6 seasons this decade, well ahead of the pace. We have seen 3 <50% snowfall winters this decade. The 1970 through 1999 total was 11, NYC is ahead of that pace. Will continue to monitor. The fact that this decade in NYC is still below the lowest 30 year average in the climate record is noteworthy. I think it will surpass that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowman19 Posted 3 hours ago Author Share Posted 3 hours ago 1 hour ago, vegan_edible said: they dont know Well, Contentweatherguy, who has been very bullish on the cold and snow train all winter long, has this to say about March: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RU848789 Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago 1 hour ago, MJO812 said: Sun angle has nothing to do with cold with a cold pattern in place. Your predictions this winter have been outrageous . This. For some reason people don't seem to understand that we don't need arctic cold to get major snowfall up through at least early April in these parts. All that's needed is for it to be just cold enough for snow and snowfall intensity that's enough to overcome any melting even at midday. We've seen it happen so many times that it boggles my mind that there are people who say it can't happen - if people want to say it's harder for that to happen after 3/15, sure, that's obvious, but it's nowhere near impossible. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago 56 here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastonSN+ Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago 50 minutes ago, NorthShoreWx said: The fact that this decade in NYC is still below the lowest 30 year average in the climate record is noteworthy. I think it will surpass that. 1.47 inches of snow loss is probably right IF we have started to see a decline. I still contend that a lot is up in the air like storm intensity increase and general added moisture leading to higher snowfall per event, even if the number of storms potentially decrease. Also the first 6 years of that horrible 30 year stretch averaged 15.85 inches, including one 2.8 inch snowfall year, which we are 4.58 inches ahead of the first 6 years of this decade. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_other_guy Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago 17 minutes ago, EastonSN+ said: 1.47 inches of snow loss is probably right IF we have started to see a decline. I still contend that a lot is up in the air like storm intensity increase and general added moisture leading to higher snowfall per event, even if the number of storms potentially decrease. Also the first 6 years of that horrible 30 year stretch averaged 15.85 inches, including one 2.8 inch snowfall year, which we are 4.58 inches ahead of the first 6 years of this decade. I think the non linear factors such as the Pacific effecting the jetstream which affects storm track really threw the bigger storm/more moisture overriding warmer winter equation out the window. The whole process is getting messed up and it is a net negative for average snowfall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastonSN+ Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 5 minutes ago, the_other_guy said: I think the non linear factors such as the Pacific effecting the jetstream which affects storm track really threw the bigger storm/more moisture overriding warmer winter equation out the window. The whole process is getting messed up and it is a net negative for average snowfall Time will tell. However the waters in the phase 7 and 8 regions are warming fast which will allow for more big storms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 4 hours ago, Freezing Drizzle said: I don't remember this one. How much did area locations get? Superstorm of 1993??? That snowfall was on a Saturday morning though. 6 to 8 then 3 to 4 a few days later Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wthrmn654 Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago Man, 60 and 70s so early on models? That's not to my liking at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthShoreWx Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 1 hour ago, EastonSN+ said: 1.47 inches of snow loss is probably right IF we have started to see a decline. I still contend that a lot is up in the air like storm intensity increase and general added moisture leading to higher snowfall per event, even if the number of storms potentially decrease. Also the first 6 years of that horrible 30 year stretch averaged 15.85 inches, including one 2.8 inch snowfall year, which we are 4.58 inches ahead of the first 6 years of this decade. Good point. Calling the past 5 or 6 years the new normal is no more accurate than doing so in 2018 would have been. We just don't know about snowfall and the main consistency in the patterns has been the inconsistency. We do know that it's been considerably warmer on average, for whatever reasons. It was nice that this winter bucked the trend. I suspect there will be more decent winters ahead, but don't ask me which 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycwinter Posted 55 minutes ago Share Posted 55 minutes ago i saw many people not even wearing coats but jackets today while i was wearing a coat a hoodie a hat and gloves.. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthShoreWx Posted 43 minutes ago Share Posted 43 minutes ago Meanwhile, 18z NAM has .1 to .15" qpf as snow during the day Sunday and HRRR seems like it's going to do the same. Others can argue about accumulation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted 42 minutes ago Share Posted 42 minutes ago 12 minutes ago, nycwinter said: i saw many people not even wearing coats but jackets today while i was wearing a coat a hoodie a hat and gloves.. I wore short sleeves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterwx21 Posted 7 minutes ago Share Posted 7 minutes ago In addition to tomorrow's snow, we still have to watch Tuesday for the snow changing to rain event. I see 18z RGEM actually gives us a pretty good hit of snow Tuesday morning. The cold air is moving out on Tuesday, but we can get an inch or two if it starts early enough in the morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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