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Just now, Stormpc said:

The snow plow/brine boys are really juicing up the storm thread. Ready to poke my eyes out. 

About how I feel reading people argue over COMPUTER ANIMATED weather 20 days out.. I never share or post because idk anything about meteorology but I saw a topic I KNOW.. sorry for ruining your dusting event following. Enjoy

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7 minutes ago, Plow'n said:

About how I feel reading people argue over COMPUTER ANIMATED weather 20 days out.. I never share or post because idk anything about meteorology but I saw a topic I KNOW.. sorry for ruining your dusting event following. Enjoy

There's room for both.  If a particular topic post doesn't interest me, I just skim through.  Sometimes you learn a neat fact, like how road deicing fluid is sometimes mixed with beet juice.  

I will admit that I made a snide remark about road deicing discussion in the storm thread, but it was gallows humor about the lightness of the event as opposed to not wanting the discussion to be there.

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9 minutes ago, Plow'n said:

About how I feel reading people argue over COMPUTER ANIMATED weather 20 days out.. I never share or post because idk anything about meteorology but I saw a topic I KNOW.. sorry for ruining your dusting event following. Enjoy

lol easy now, you know why your here $.    and again i agree with you.  ain’t it fun. and i’d like to hold a cook out to see how many people can pull a truck up to a plow, pay em double to hitch it, and pay em triple to see their reactions when that damn car pulls in behind them in the first area they clear.  lol. 

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2 hours ago, H2O said:

Very. But it’s more about how much harm all of it doing to freshwater supplies. It’s becoming a problem for treated water systems. 

Is it more of an issue now than it used to be because of the sheer volume of the stuff they use nowadays, or is it because of the chemical composition? Or maybe both?

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6 hours ago, mattie g said:

Is it more of an issue now than it used to be because of the sheer volume of the stuff they use nowadays, or is it because of the chemical composition? Or maybe both?

Probably volume due to frequency of use.  They slap it down for ANY hint of frozen. The amount of sodium showing up in our freshwater streams and waterways is alarming. It’s a problem. A big problem

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7 hours ago, yoda said:

1.  That is all.

One is enough.  The best pure scorer this generation has seen has lifted the cup.  Your boy won’t lift 700 goals

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Just now, snowfan said:

So much petty snark on the board for what looks to be nothing more than a nuisance event.

Despair has descended upon the snow starved weenie masses in earnest.

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Maybe the road salts are becoming suspended in air as fine particulates which is lowering the freezing point of water. Maybe that's why our winters have sucked for the past 3 years because of so many airmasses that are too warm for snow.

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8 minutes ago, snowfan said:

So much petty snark on the board for what looks to be nothing more than a nuisance event.

i do what i can. :wub: 

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Every time a threat fails or a pattern degrades some variation of the “I told you so” posts start. Except almost no one thinks snow is likely here. Even when the pattern looks “better” often that just means we have a 25% vs a 5% chance.  Most here know our climo. We’re just tracking for fun and knowing every once in a while we get lucky.  Telling us told you so is like saying “haha” every time you don’t win the lottery. Oh you told us so?  Really. Thanks Nostradamus, really went out on a limb there. Those people look smart 80% of the time until it finally does snow then they look stupid.  Of course they disappear when that happens. 

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12 hours ago, psuhoffman said:

Just like anywhere else elevation matters. I’ve been in Killington/Rutland for snowstorms several times. Last year I was there and Rutland got about 10” and Killington had 18”. Few years back Killington got 24” and there was about 12 in the valley. Just how it is. But it’s only a short drive up from Rutland so you can spend all day up at Killington to catch the “show”. They have some nice restaurants and bars up there. Don’t know what you’re looking to do. 

I would definitely take the trip up Sunday to Montpelier and Stowe. Nice drive. And they will get more snow. It’s climo. They almost always do in a storm tracking this far north.  Plus Stowe will get upslope snow behind the storm. You can take the Ben and Jerry’s factory tour right outside Stowe. 

Another option is to check out Stowe during the day and stay at Burlington. Short drive. It’s in the valley and won’t get as much snow but it’s an awesome college town with a lot to do at night. Would be a cool place to spend the last night before heading home. Montpelier is a smaller quieter town but I’m sure you can find a bar anywhere. Just depends what you’re looking for. 

One last thing...if you do go to Stowe make sure you drive up the access road to the ski resort. Sometimes there is a significant difference in snow. Worth the 5 miles. 

I hope you have a great time. I’m taking a mini trip myself. My sister is watching the kids so I can take my wife to a little B&B in Gettysburg for the night.  

Thanks!

No real plans, but that all sounds great. Thanks for the sugestions! I am seeing now that those areas you mentioned will probably do better so I will definitely have to take a trip.

Gettysburg BB sounds awesome, that would have been my choice if they were getting snow.

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8 minutes ago, psuhoffman said:

Every time a threat fails or a pattern degrades some variation of the “I told you so” posts start. Except almost no one thinks snow is likely here. Even when the pattern looks “better” often that just means we have a 25% vs a 5% chance.  Most here know our climo. We’re just tracking for fun and knowing every once in a while we get lucky.  Telling us told you so is like saying “haha” every time you don’t win the lottery. Oh you told us so?  Really. Thanks Nostradamus, really went out on a limb there. Those people look smart 80% of the time until it finally does snow then they look stupid.  Of course they disappear when that happens. 

Ever since I moved north I have seen how much snow really impacts peoples personalities, and its really mind boggling. It's just snow. Why be a dick to the people receiving some because they live in a more favorable location for snow and you don't? Ill never get it. 

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13 minutes ago, psuhoffman said:

Every time a threat fails or a pattern degrades some variation of the “I told you so” posts start. Except almost no one thinks snow is likely here. Even when the pattern looks “better” often that just means we have a 25% vs a 5% chance.  Most here know our climo. We’re just tracking for fun and knowing every once in a while we get lucky.  Telling us told you so is like saying “haha” every time you don’t win the lottery. Oh you told us so?  Really. Thanks Nostradamus, really went out on a limb there. Those people look smart 80% of the time until it finally does snow then they look stupid.  Of course they disappear when that happens. 

But this isn't actually how its portrayed. That's the core issue I think.

When people here see "a snowy look" or " a lot of potential hits on the 15 day outlook" etc......they tend to think its more than this. Especially in a heavily moderated thread which says to people "this is important".

While the knowledge and science behind it are amazing. Its end output is basically complete junk most of the time.

Maybe there need to be a disclaimer "Hey guys, this stuff we are talking about is actually garbage and probably won't happen. DC usually gets about 10 inches of snow a year if they are really lucky".

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9 hours ago, yoda said:

1.  That is all.

OVI has actually become a better all around player over the years. Earlier in his career he didnt like playing any D at all but he's realized what it takes to win in the spring. Youll see him back check and do things on D that he didnt do 10 years ago.

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Gosh. I remember the days when all you had was the weather channel, local news, and the NWS forecast phone number. And local channels would go off the air at night. So, all you could do was go to sleep and hope for the best.

Now there is so much data at our fingertips, there is no rest for the mind or emotions. Too much data can be a bad thing for our weary data driven souls in the 21st century.


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10 hours ago, yoda said:

Technically he still needs 77 more goals after tonight

No he doesn't.  Jagr didn't score all his goals for the penguins.  Mario did

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1 hour ago, Amorphous Iodine said:

All weekend storms are non-events.  In my 29 years in DC I think there was only one weekend storm that was bad enough for OPM to give us Feds a snow day.

2016 blizzard.  

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One thing so far in this rather yet again disappointing winter, I seem to recall the seasonal outlooks from the various long range modeling showing it at last average in terms of precip if not above average, and more than a little hinting at southern stream moisture being available. To this point, that is not how this has played out at all, I don't believe. And we certainly have not seen a lot of juiced up storms miss us up the coast or very many juiced up monsters cutting to our west and threatening to become 50/50 lows for follow-up systems. Mostly it has been pretty quiet in terms of organized storm activity from my perception.

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58 minutes ago, North Balti Zen said:

One thing so far in this rather yet again disappointing winter, I seem to recall the seasonal outlooks from the various long range modeling showing it at last average in terms of precip if not above average, and more than a little hinting at southern stream moisture being available. To this point, that is not how this has played out at all, I don't believe. And we certainly have not seen a lot of juiced up storms miss us up the coast or very many juiced up monsters cutting to our west and threatening to become 50/50 lows for follow-up systems. Mostly it has been pretty quiet in terms of organized storm activity from my perception.

I feel that is a common theme of many below avg winters. At least here it seems to be.

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For once l’ll be rooting against the snow since I have a flight back from Boston tomorrow afternoon. Would be pretty fitting for my flight to get canceled or delayed coming back from a weather conference. Only supposed to get a few inches up here though so not worth being a weenie and rooting for a cancellation.

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