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Good Point. During the 2013/2014 Winter, NYC had 57 inches by mid February. That's a fantastic pace for snowfall in NYC. Barely an inch of snow fell after mid February though. Many thought we were going to break the seasonal record...no dice.

 

We have been seeing plenty of extreme snows focused over 30 to 60 day periods in the 2000's. Even 09-10 had a long

gap in snowfall between the later December storm and  amazing February run before the warmth cut things off in March.

And then we had the extreme front-loaded 03-04, middle- loaded 10-11, and back-loaded 14-15. This year so far has

some similarity with 05-06 in that an historic blizzard followed record to historic warmth which coexisted in the same

DJF period. I guess a fantasy year would be putting all the best runs together in a make believe single season. :D

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Actually 54 inches was our total last year

 

How much at your place in this last storm?

 

That's why NYC still hasn't been able to challenge the 95-96 snowfall season with all the record snowfall of the 2000's.

Even with all the historic snowfall of 2000's so far, it's very difficult to get wall to wall snowfall from late November

through March. But the 30 to 60 day snowfall streaks have been off the charts. 

 

95-96 was remarkable for giving NYC double-digit snowfall in all 4 months DJFM, I think the only time that's happened.  However, the white stuff came in bursts with snow droughts (and often major thaws) in between.  In general, the first 2-3 weeks of those months were snowy and the ends snowless, except for the late 4" dump in March.

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Your hero Bastardi said the North Pacific is flipping to -PDO this year, not me. He's been touting that idea since 2015

 

 

Did you ever grade your Jan forecast ?  How are we looking for Feb ?

 

AN temps  ? NO SNOW ?

 

I am curious ... 

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you can lay into long range guesses all you want but you missed the biggest storm of the season within 48 hours

:lol:

Are you seriously insane ? 

 

8 days out I posted that there was the potential for a BLIZZARD . Don`t make me pull out your posts 6 days and 8 days out while we said the GEM was a crusher , you said , take a pic OTS , progressive .  LOL 

 

2 days out I was 10 plus KNYC when the EPS HAD.6 at the park 

and was 20 in CNJ

2 days out - you said  " what if we get 15 " ? 

 

I did not post a lot here prior to the BLIZZARD I was busy away .

Saying Ignore the 30 inches on the  NAM but buy the 10 -20 on the GEFS/UKMET 2 days out  was a miss ?

 

Dude , I know I have kicked your a$$ in here over and over again . I know it sucks .I am sorry but you need to sharpen your game with me .

Like I said you have these guys fooled not me .

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:lol:

Are you seriously insane ? 

 

8 days out I posted that there was the potential for a BLIZZARD . Don`t make me pull out your posts 6 days and 8 days out while we said the GEM was a crusher , you said , take a pic OTS , progressive .  LOL 

 

2 days out I was 10 plus KNYC when the EPS HAD.6 at the park 

and was 20 in CNJ

2 days out - you said  " what if we get 15 " ? 

 

I did not post a lot here prior to the BLIZZARD I was busy away .

Saying Ignore the 30 inches on the  NAM but buy the 10 -20 on the GEFS/UKMET 2 days out  was a miss ?

 

Dude , I know I have kicked your a$$ in here over and over again . I know it sucks .I am sorry but you need to sharpen your game with me .

Like I said you have these guys fooled not me .

you spit out model numbers while telling people to ignore the best performing model. all while never giving any meteorological reasoning 

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you spit out model numbers while telling people to ignore the best performing model. all while never giving any meteorological reasoning 

 

Mike , I really think you`re sick .

 

I ignored the best skill score model 2 days out  that was only showing  .6 and said follow the number 2 UKIE and 3 GEFS 

both were 1 inch KNYC  2 in CNJ .

2 DAYS OUT 

I use the RGEM inside 36 hours and ignore the NAM because of its DECADE over over inflating QPF .

 

The EPS mean 3 days out at KNYC was 12 then scaled it back to 8 . The NAM had no support .  Every model was jumping the SLP to the convection so after seeing it for 5 days many did not think it was CF .

We all saw that there were wasn`t a - 5 SD NAO blocking this like FEB 10 , that`s why 10 - 20 2 days out was still a bigger call than most .

 

 

6 DAYS OUT , I said a blizzard was on the table , you said OTS .

Almost all my posts were done away the 4 days  prior . 

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Did you ever grade your Jan forecast ? How are we looking for Feb ?

AN temps ? NO SNOW ?

I am curious ...

My forecast has done very well. We are above normal in temps and there was an extreme luck storm that threaded the needle with perfect timing. January will be above normal in temps. As for February, more of the same, above normal month, there will be a transient cold shot week 2 followed by a big warmup again. Think roller coaster, no sustained arctic outbreaks. Also, minus another luck storm, snowfall will be below normal for February. El Ninos make winters so easy to forecast. It's a beautiful, wonderful thing
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My forecast has done very well. We are above normal in temps and there was an extreme luck storm that threaded the needle with perfect timing. January will be above normal in temps. As for February, more of the same, above normal month, there will be a transient cold shot week 2 followed by a big warmup again. Think roller coaster, no sustained arctic outbreaks. Also, minus another luck storm, snowfall will be below normal for February. El Ninos make winters so easy to forecast. It's a beautiful, wonderful thing

Give me an exact repeat of January and you can gloat about your "good forecast" all summer. Sincerely, someone who believes you have a say in the weather.
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My forecast has done very well. We are above normal in temps and there was an extreme luck storm that threaded the needle with perfect timing. January will be above normal in temps. As for February, more of the same, above normal month, there will be a transient cold shot week 2 followed by a big warmup again. Think roller coaster, no sustained arctic outbreaks. Also, minus another luck storm, snowfall will be below normal for February. El Ninos make winters so easy to forecast. It's a beautiful, wonderful thing

 

 

Do you really believe this ? 

 

You said No pattern change an no snow 

 

KNYC is + 1.6  AN for the month . There was 1 day of + 18 and another +15 . Those are positives for the month 

 

KNYC  received 27 inches of snow in  JAN . 

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My forecast has done very well. We are above normal in temps and there was an extreme luck storm that threaded the needle with perfect timing. January will be above normal in temps. As for February, more of the same, above normal month, there will be a transient cold shot week 2 followed by a big warmup again. Think roller coaster, no sustained arctic outbreaks. Also, minus another luck storm, snowfall will be below normal for February. El Ninos make winters so easy to forecast. It's a beautiful, wonderful thing

 

2 weeks is transient ? The EPS show it . 

So  does the GEFS 

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What is sustained 3 weeks ? 

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My forecast has done very well. We are above normal in temps and there was an extreme luck storm that threaded the needle with perfect timing. January will be above normal in temps. As for February, more of the same, above normal month, there will be a transient cold shot week 2 followed by a big warmup again. Think roller coaster, no sustained arctic outbreaks. Also, minus another luck storm, snowfall will be below normal for February. El Ninos make winters so easy to forecast. It's a beautiful, wonderful thing

Extreme luck ? We didn't thread the needle. The teleconnectors were in place for a major snowstorm and it occurred. You posted that the jet was too progressive for any snowfall in January and said we most likely will have to wait until February for snow. Now with the long range looking favorable again for a sustained +PNA/-EPO you're calling it a transient change. The weeklies disagree with your warmup as well going into week 4. It's a beautiful wonderful thing that your snowfall forecast for Jan busted hard.

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From the looks of those maps it would not surprise me if we get another major to historic snow event sometime in February. I wonder what his excuse will be then. :whistle:

It's going to be very difficult to get another major event if the AO stays positive but small to moderate events are on the table.

However a strong STJ will add more juice to any system so I could see a MECS if things align perfectly even in a neutral/positive AO regime.

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Day length reached 10 hours today.

The snow is already down to piles in Long Beach. That's just crazy. For the amount of snow that fell, that has to be a record for how fast it melted.

Yeah, I've never seen such a substantial amount of snow melt so quickly. Nearly 20" to mainly piles in less than a week. I'm glad, I hate snowpacks.

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