butterfish55 Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 65-70% 12"+ SREF probs on top of me. f12s33.gif I see the 06z GFS went bonkers too. That yellow dot is pretty much my house..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billski Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 It's ridiculous schools were closed today. Period. Some districts, like mine opted for a half day today. Aside from the weather and politics, it can become a snowday issue. If you get too many snowdays, you sink under the state minimum and must make them up later in the year. It would be interesting to see how this behavior changes after 3,4,5 snow days. that is, full days now, but half days (which count as a full day) later in the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forkyfork Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 Yeah pretty cool, You snowing now? I'm actually curious to see the 12z runs today. The NAM/GFS/SREFs were rather robust for overnight out my way.nada. temps are slowly dropping though. i liked the euro despite the slight cutback up there (but that could just be noise). more N stream energy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 That yellow dot is pretty much my house..... Yup. I see Raynham kept schools running. Tough call. WIth the size of Taunton and the logistics of getting a few thousand kids safely to and from school, I can see why they hedged themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 nada. temps are slowly dropping though. i liked the euro despite the slight cutback up there (but that could just be noise). more N stream energy 1.25mi vis at TAN, mid 20's. I have not been able to see the better Euro maps. I was using Wunderground but since NY's they went all screwy. Subtle stuff indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 Pretty obvious OES contribution starting now in E MA...you can see the elements starting to press westward from off the ocean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NECT Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 It's ridiculous schools were closed today. Period. Think of Providence, December 2007. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
butterfish55 Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 Yup. I see Raynham kept schools running. Tough call. WIth the size of Taunton and the logistics of getting a few thousand kids safely to and from school, I can see why they hedged themselves.They already cancelled afternoon K, so I think they are going to announce early dismissal as soon as the last kid gets off the bus this morning. Saves a snow day I guess. On the salt issue some we're talking about earlier...our small street was salted this morning and is now frozen/covered and the main roads in raynham are salted but appear to be frozen also. We're at 23/22, seems like sand is the way to go now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIPPYVALLEY Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 If anything, delayed opening would make more sense than early dismissal. Unless things redevelop, it looks like the lull will reach up here---and not ramp up too much later on as I'll be so far from the coastal. Thinking the lower end of my 6-8 range when all is said and done as I think the overrunning will be underperforming here. Closure makes sense up here today. Almost 2" down now with steady snow falling, low temps, poor visibility - not a great day for kids to be waiting for buses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 They already cancelled afternoon K, so I think they are going to announce early dismissal as soon as the last kid gets off the bus this morning. Saves a snow day I guess. On the salt issue some we're talking about earlier...our small street was salted this morning and is now frozen/covered and the main roads in raynham are salted but appear to be frozen also. We're at 23/22, seems like sand is the way to go now Yeah, once you get around 20F, salt becomes pretty ineffective at keeping roads cleared. Sand would be preferable, I agree or perhaps something else more effective at melting the snow at lower temps. Would guess that for most towns/cities that may be cost prohibitive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TauntonBlizzard2013 Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 I get the school closing in taunton. Taunton is huge, and there are so many kids going to so many different places. I bet all schools close tomorrow, I really didn't see the point of dragging kids to school for one day after a vaca when they know they have a snowday the following day. Not much will be getting accomplished. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 Some one start a school closings thread, tia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 Pretty obvious OES contribution starting now in E MA...you can see the elements starting to press westward from off the ocean Just captured this from AWIPS. You can see convective rolls beginning off Midcoast ME. Nice long fetch to feed to OES. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxsniss Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 Impressive visibilities here in Longwood from these OES echoes moving into Boston metro, animated they're moving ~240-260˚: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROOSTA Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 OES will no be denied, many underestimate the enhancement powers. Basing BY snowfall on models QPF will bust IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 Just captured this from AWIPS. You can see convective rolls beginning off Midcoast ME. Nice long fetch to feed to OES. kgyx.jpg Yeah this is about as good as you can get for OES contribution realistically in E MA without having the flow a bit more aligned vertically....the BL is so darn cold though that we don't need the flow that high up to get dendritic growth. I was saying yesterday that I wouldn't be surprised if by afternoon that some spots along the shore had pretty decent totals while just a few miles away only had a couple inches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 Yeah this is about as good as you can get for OES contribution realistically in E MA without having the flow a bit more aligned vertically....the BL is so darn cold though that we don't need the flow that high up to get dendritic growth. I was saying yesterday that I wouldn't be surprised if by afternoon that some spots along the shore had pretty decent totals while just a few miles away only had a couple inches. Wouldn't surprise me at all either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 What stations on the Cape would be used to verify a blizzard? HYA and what else? Tim Kelly's call might have been a good one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 What stations on the Cape would be used to verify a blizzard? HYA and what else? Tim Kelly's call might have been a good one It's also possible to verify through impacts, if enough people call and report whiteout conditions. You would generally like to see some automated stations in the area consistently at 35 mph and 1/4SM though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 It's also possible to verify through impacts, if enough people call and report whiteout conditions. You would generally like to see some automated stations in the area consistently at 35 mph and 1/4SM though.Too bad those conditions will be overnight. Fewer people up to verify. That is one thing we don't have to think about much here in the interiorYou coastal folks will have fun. I hope BOS gets a blizzard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 Too bad those conditions will be overnight. Fewer people up to verify. That is one thing we don't have to think about much here in the interior You coastal folks will have fun. I hope BOS gets a blizzard It's going to be close. GFS says yes, NAM just below, Euro yesterday said yes. For us, PSM, SFM, PWM, RKD are all already gusting to the low 20s. What will they be doing tonight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 12z NAM looks a hair better than 06z run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ackwaves Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 It's also possible to verify through impacts, if enough people call and report whiteout conditions. You would generally like to see some automated stations in the area consistently at 35 mph and 1/4SM though. I'm a little confused why ACK isn't included in the BW area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 I'm a little confused why ACK isn't included in the BW area. It's reaching criteria based on the forecast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 It's reaching criteria based on the forecast. Here;s one it seems Matt Noyes @MattNoyesNECN4m 20 to 1 ratio of snow to water. RT @PeterK_J: at 7 am in Brighton we had 1.0 inch of snow and 0.05 inch of precip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walthsnow Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 Long time lurker here. Thanks for all of the awesome insights and forecasts that everyone provides. What are the thoughts on the OES? Is it possible to set up like this throughout the event? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan11295 Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 Getting into nowcasting at this point, but the NAM seems to hold onto the precip a bit longer vs 0z and 6z. Total precip looks about the same when you add what has already fallen. Probably underdoing localized OES effects based on current radar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 Here;s one it seems Matt Noyes @MattNoyesNECN4m 20 to 1 ratio of snow to water. RT @PeterK_J: at 7 am in Brighton we had 1.0 inch of snow and 0.05 inch of precip Again, it will be possible for periods during the event, but not the entire duration. I'm just making sure the weenies don't get their hopes up by doubling and tripling their QPF to snow numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinch Leatherwood Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 Some one start a school closings thread, tia I will as soon as you start a Leon Lett thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 Again, it will be possible for periods during the event, but not the entire duration. I'm just making sure the weenies don't get their hopes up by doubling and tripling their QPF to snow numbers.A lot easier to do with < 2" of snow too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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