vortex95 Posted 18 hours ago Share Posted 18 hours ago Given the fcst 850-200 mb wind shear over the northern Gulf is fcst in excess of 50 kt and how the global models depict the storm structure, I have a tough time thinking this can sustain a tropical status once farther N. Sfc winds E of the center will likely get quite strong, but due to baroclinic deepening. If this were a well-established strong TC already, I would not be as concerned about the shear here. Here are two storms in early Oct 1992 and 1994 that fit this scenario. The 1992 event deepened to 996 mb and and 1994 to 1000 mb from baroclinic processes. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaWx Posted 17 hours ago Share Posted 17 hours ago 0Z UKMET: landfall ~175 miles W of 12Z run with it near far SE LA and then MS. Strongest run yet with high end TS/990 mb: NEW TROPICAL CYCLONE FORECAST TO DEVELOP AFTER 54 HOURS FORECAST POSITION AT T+ 54 : 22.2N 92.1W LEAD CENTRAL MAXIMUM WIND VERIFYING TIME TIME POSITION PRESSURE (MB) SPEED (KNOTS) -------------- ---- -------- ------------- ------------- 1200UTC 08.10.2026 60 22.7N 91.7W 1003 30 0000UTC 09.10.2026 72 22.9N 89.9W 1001 30 1200UTC 09.10.2026 84 25.4N 88.6W 999 39 0000UTC 10.10.2026 96 26.4N 88.5W 997 48 1200UTC 10.10.2026 108 29.2N 88.7W 990 58 0000UTC 11.10.2026 120 32.1N 89.5W 992 29 1200UTC 11.10.2026 132 33.8N 88.8W 1002 25 0000UTC 12.10.2026 144 38.4N 83.2W 1003 12 1200UTC 12.10.2026 156 CEASED TRACKING Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windspeed Posted 14 hours ago Share Posted 14 hours ago 00z GFS was much more realistic with the progression of this system and the synoptic setup. Though it does still bring the TC to hurricane status in the southern and central GOM, significant weakening occurs by landfall due to all the aforementioned issues discussed previously. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vortex95 Posted 12 hours ago Share Posted 12 hours ago 2 hours ago, Windspeed said: 00z GFS was much more realistic with the progression of this system and the synoptic setup. Though it does still bring the TC to hurricane status in the southern and central GOM, significant weakening occurs by landfall due to all the aforementioned issues discussed previously. The 00z ECMWF still has a stark 700-300 mb RH gradient early on that just intensifies as it heads N. The pattern/structure at 108 hr for this parameter looks more like a baroclinic leaf than anything. It dependents it to 998 mb, 9 nm weaker than the 00z, which is in line w/ the 1992 and 1994 early Oct events as to am ET low development in the Gulf making landfall. The HAFS-B is much deeper, but also look at its 700-300 mb RH fcst (attached). That configuration strongly suggests a frontal structure and baroclinic leaf. I would find it hard to believe it could drop into the 970s from largely baroclinic forcing. The deepest ET low in the Gulf ion record s 980 mb from the Bliz of 1993 and that had unreal baroclinic support! The GFS does the opposite of the HAFS-B, it makes it strong as a TC early, and *then* weakens is as it heads N. That coulld happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted 10 hours ago Share Posted 10 hours ago Tropical Weather Outlook NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL 800 AM EDT Tue Oct 6 2026 For the North Atlantic...Caribbean Sea and the Gulf of America: Southwestern Gulf of America (AL92): Showers and thunderstorms are showing signs of organization in association with a broad area of low pressure located over the southwestern Gulf of America. Continued development of this system is expected, and a tropical depression is anticipated to form over the next day or so while it drifts eastward. The low pressure area could bring gusty winds and areas of heavy rain to the western portions of the Yucatan Peninsula of Mexico in a couple of days. The disturbance is expected to turn to the north or northeast toward the northern Gulf Coast by the end of the week. It is still too early to determine specific impacts to the northern Gulf Coast, but interests from the Florida Panhandle to Louisiana should closely monitor the progress of this system. The NOAA Gulfstream is scheduled to sample the environment over the Gulf later today and an Air Force reconnaissance aircraft is scheduled to investigate the system tomorrow. * Formation chance through 48 hours...high...90 percent. * Formation chance through 7 days...high...90 percent. $$ Forecaster Cangialosi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthHillsWx Posted 9 hours ago Share Posted 9 hours ago Guidance is pretty stacked towards this becoming a hurricane at some point. Also starting to look like this becomes the dominant system between it and the EPAC storm, which will have some lessening of shear than we were thinking yesterday. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthHillsWx Posted 9 hours ago Share Posted 9 hours ago 92L is very clearly organizing this morning with a robust and cohesive flare up of thunderstorms overnight. Organizational trends today will be critical as to whether this system manages to take advantage of the more favorable conditions present before shear increases later in the week. A lot of the weak models keep this thing disorganized for 48 hours whereas the stronger ones really start ramping up by tonight/tomorrow morning 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm1220 Posted 7 hours ago Share Posted 7 hours ago Looks like a wall of shear before anything hits the Gulf coast. The SE is pretty dry so a good rainer would help. If we’re really dealing with 40kt shear on the Gulf coast, hard for me to see how anything beyond a moderate/strong TS can make it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olafminesaw Posted 7 hours ago Share Posted 7 hours ago 35 minutes ago, jm1220 said: Looks like a wall of shear before anything hits the Gulf coast. The SE is pretty dry so a good rainer would help. If we’re really dealing with 40kt shear on the Gulf coast, hard for me to see how anything beyond a moderate/strong TS can make it. Depending on the track, shear could be a net neutral, even allowing for strengthening through landfall as the shear vector is aligned with the storms track if it tracks more to the East/faster. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowGoose69 Posted 7 hours ago Share Posted 7 hours ago Obviously early RI would probably make this stronger at landfall too as if it becomes a Cat 3 extremely rapidly over the next 60 hours that would allow it to do the whole "making its whole environment around it" thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthHillsWx Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago Right now, I’d say a strong TS or Cat 1 hurricane impact on the northern gulf coast is looking most likely. Does it peak as higher end intensity in middle of the gulf (most hurricane models)? Does it stay mostly weak (Euro, GFS)? Think the next 24 hours answer those questions but if I was on the northern gulf coast from lake Charles to Panama City I’d probably start planning for strong TS or Low end hurricane impacts being most probable with impacts likely starting late Friday 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaWx Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago I wonder if the GA/AL game in Tuscaloosa on Sat night (7:30PM EDT start) will be heavily impacted by the Gulf tropical cyclone forecasted to form soon. Any guesses? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winter Wizard Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago The new GFS has future Isaias positioned just above the Yucatan Saturday at 6z whereas yesterday's 12z run had a hurricane landfall over Louisiana. The slower progression mean that it makes landfall as barely a tropical storm. Very much in line with what Andy Hazleton said: this is a rare case where you actually want this to spend more time over the warm waters of the Gulf to minimize impacts, as shear will tear it apart. Whereas a faster, or more NE tracking storm would limit time in a hostile environment and therefore is more likely to peak as a hurricane. 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaWx Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago 12Z UKMET is strongest run yet with a H (65 knots/983 mb) hitting Biloxi followed by a move N into MS: NEW TROPICAL CYCLONE FORECAST TO DEVELOP AFTER 24 HOURS FORECAST POSITION AT T+ 24 : 21.6N 93.7W LEAD CENTRAL MAXIMUM WIND VERIFYING TIME TIME POSITION PRESSURE (MB) SPEED (KNOTS) -------------- ---- -------- ------------- ------------- 1200UTC 07.10.2026 24 21.6N 93.7W 1005 29 0000UTC 08.10.2026 36 22.0N 93.2W 1003 28 1200UTC 08.10.2026 48 22.6N 92.4W 1000 35 0000UTC 09.10.2026 60 22.7N 90.9W 999 31 1200UTC 09.10.2026 72 24.6N 89.6W 995 41 0000UTC 10.10.2026 84 26.4N 89.2W 992 45 1200UTC 10.10.2026 96 29.2N 88.7W 983 65 0000UTC 11.10.2026 108 32.3N 90.0W 994 26 1200UTC 11.10.2026 120 33.4N 90.4W 1003 27 0000UTC 12.10.2026 132 CEASED TRACKING Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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NavarreDon Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago ZCZC MIATWOAT ALLTTAA00 KNHC DDHHMMTropical Weather OutlookNWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL200 PM EDT Tue Oct 6 2026For the North Atlantic...Caribbean Sea and the Gulf of America:1. Southwestern Gulf of America (AL92):Satellite images and surface observations indicate that showers and thunderstorms are becoming better organized while surface pressures are gradually falling. If these trends continue, advisories will likely be issued on this system later today or tonight while it moves slowly eastward. The low pressure area could bring gusty winds and areas of heavy rain to the western portions of the Yucatan Peninsula of Mexico in a couple of days.The disturbance is expected to turn to the north or northeast toward the northern Gulf Coast by the end of the week. It is still too early to determine specific impacts to the northern Gulf Coast, but interests from the Florida Panhandle to Louisiana should closely monitor the progress of this system. The NOAA Gulfstream jet is en route to sample the environment over the Gulf this afternoon and Air Force and NOAA reconnaissance aircraft are scheduled to investigate the system tomorrow.* Formation chance through 48 hours...high...near 100 percent.* Formation chance through 7 days...high...near 100 percent.Forecaster Cangialosi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wncsnow Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago Euro AI looks similar to the UK and Google Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olafminesaw Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago 5 minutes ago, wncsnow said: Euro AI looks similar to the UK and Google The GFS is so bad it has quite literally been replaced by AI 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MANDA Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago 14 minutes ago, olafminesaw said: The GFS is so bad it has quite literally been replaced by AI GFS is a useless model. Not sure why anyone uses it for anything more than 36-48 hours in advance. It flips and flops like a fish out of water from one run to the next. The big snow event in the Northeast last February was one of the very few times the blind squirrel found the nut. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wncsnow Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago Euro has a much deeper storm this run compared to last. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowGoose69 Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago AI's seem too fast with track 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WxWatcher007 Posted 3 hours ago Author Share Posted 3 hours ago Very sensitive solutions still based on track. What’s becoming increasingly likely however is that the rain associated with this extends well into the south, mid-Atlantic, and maybe further north. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott747 Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago 1 hour ago, MANDA said: GFS is a useless model. Not sure why anyone uses it for anything more than 36-48 hours in advance. It flips and flops like a fish out of water from one run to the next. The big snow event in the Northeast last February was one of the very few times the blind squirrel found the nut. I get the hate for the last few years for the GFS and you can go with the ol 'broken clock twice a day' angle. But the GFS has been sniffing this out since a week ago. And pretty damn good if it hits on the corresponding storm in the EPAC that far out. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkeye_wx Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago 12z Google... pretty locked into the FL panhandle. It's pretty bullish on the strength before weakening at landfall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomz Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago Advisories for TD Nine forthcoming at the top of the hour per the NHC website 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomz Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago Google 12z is really quite aggressive. Worth noting the other AI models tend to agree while the classic models are less bullish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthHillsWx Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago NHC brings this to cat 2 at landfall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 1 minute ago, NorthHillsWx said: NHC brings this to cat 2 at landfall Tropical Depression Nine Discussion Number 1 NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL AL092026 400 PM CDT Tue Oct 06 2026 Satellite imagery indicates that the area of low pressure located over the southwestern Gulf of America has recently developed a closed circulation, though it might still be elongated. Associated showers and thunderstorms have also become better organized, and this system now meets the criteria to be a tropical depression, the ninth one of the season. The initial intensity is set at 30 kt based on a Dvorak classification from TAFB. The depression has barely moved over the past 6 to 12 hours, with the initial motion estimated to be 120/1 kt. The cyclone is expected to track slowly eastward or east-northeastward during the next couple of days while it moves in the flow near the base of a broad deep-layer trough, and could bring gusty winds and heavy rains to the western portions of the Yucatan Peninsula on Thursday. By Friday, a sharp turn to the northeast is expected when a shortwave trough forms over Texas and a ridge strengthens over the western Atlantic. This pattern change should cause the system to accelerate toward the northern Gulf Coast on Friday and into early Saturday. The NHC track forecast lies near the fast side of the guidance, in best agreement with the GDMI and ECAI aids. It should be noted that there is significant uncertainty in where the system makes the northeast turn and how fast it moves toward the coast. It appears that the stronger the system gets, the faster it will move toward the coast given the strength of the deep-layer flow. The NOAA G-IV jet is currently sampling the environment and special upper-air soundings are being deployed over the south-central U.S. The assimilation of these data into the dynamical models should improve their representation of the current environmental conditions, ideally yielding more reliable track and intensity guidance. The environmental conditions appear generally conducive for strengthening over the next few days, and given that the storm appears compact, it will likely steadily strengthen during that time. The NHC intensity forecast shows the system becoming a tropical storm by early Wednesday and a hurricane on Thursday. Based on the environmental conditions and the model guidance, the cyclone will likely peak in strength before reaching the coast. Although not seen in the forecast, some weakening seems likely when the storm nears the Gulf Coast due to an increase in vertical wind shear, but it is still expected to be a dangerous hurricane when it makes landfall. This forecast is in fair agreement with the consensus aids, but it should be noted that there are skillful models that are higher than the current forecast. Although the storm is expected to be compact for the next few days, it will likely grow significantly in size, particularly on the eastern side, when it reaches the northern Gulf Coast. Therefore, based on the forecast uncertainty and expected larger size, users are urged not to focus on the forecast points and stay tuned to updates. Key Messages: 1. There is an increasing risk of dangerous wind and storm surge impacts along portions of the northern Gulf Coast, and watches could be required on Wednesday. Residents from Louisiana to the Florida Panhandle should closely monitor the latest forecast updates and ensure they have their hurricane plan in place. 2. The system will bring areas of heavy rainfall to the central U.S. Gulf coast Friday into the weekend. Flash and urban flooding, along with isolated river flooding, will be possible. 3. Yucatan Peninsula of Mexico: The depression is expected to strengthen and could bring gusty winds and areas of heavy rain to the western portion of the Yucatan Peninsula in a couple of days. FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS INIT 06/2100Z 22.1N 95.6W 30 KT 35 MPH 12H 07/0600Z 22.1N 95.0W 35 KT 40 MPH 24H 07/1800Z 22.6N 93.4W 45 KT 50 MPH 36H 08/0600Z 23.1N 91.8W 55 KT 65 MPH 48H 08/1800Z 24.2N 90.1W 70 KT 80 MPH 60H 09/0600Z 25.9N 88.8W 80 KT 90 MPH 72H 09/1800Z 28.5N 88.3W 85 KT 100 MPH 96H 10/1800Z 34.0N 88.7W 30 KT 35 MPH...INLAND 120H 11/1800Z 38.9N 86.5W 20 KT 25 MPH...POST-TROP/INLAND $$ Forecaster Cangialosi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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