October 2026 general discussion

[WxWatcher007]

48 minutes ago, 40/70 Benchmark said:

I don't give a rat's ass about the east coast as a whole, I care about MBY.

 @vortex95 will learn. Winter is hand to hand and town to town combat around here. 

43 minutes ago, 40/70 Benchmark said:

Of course Miller A is more prolific for the majority of the east coast, Miller B is dependent on N stream influx, so they are northeast centric....which is why we are more likely to get a favorable track and timing of evolution. Less time for it to go wrong....kind of like how storm chasers on the gulf coast would father a home-brew under pristine conditions than a CV long-tracker.

Michael, Ian, Laura, Ida, Helene, Milton...just to name a few. 

5 minutes ago, ineedsnow said:

Congrats NNE on the 12z GFS 

 

3k Nammy has some flakes in the high peaks this week. More likely than a big event. 

2 minutes ago, ineedsnow said:

Whatever forms in the Gulf it looks like we get the leftovers next weekend

Deeply skeptical of leftovers here, but I think we have a shot at some Gulf development. Might close out the season of futility. 

[WinterWolf]

3 minutes ago, WxWatcher007 said:

 @vortex95 will learn. Winter is hand to hand and town to town combat around here. 

Michael, Ian, Laura, Ida, Helene, Milton...just to name a few. 

3k Nammy has some flakes in the high peaks this week. More likely than a big event. 

Deeply skeptical of leftovers here, but I think we have a shot at some Gulf development. Might close out the season of futility. 

Well…in leftovers I think he meant another Rainey weekend for SNE, and that would be par for this spring, summer and now fall. 

[alex]

First flakes in the forecast. Won’t be up to check lol 

[BrianW]

@tamarack Helped my wifes uncle close up their lake cabin this weekend near Morristown, NJ. Some impressive tree damage from that July 3rd storm with lots of local reports of 75 -80 mph winds.

Almost all the damage was red oaks that split around 25-50 feet up. There is a lot of old growth trees and  tons of 100+ year old giant Tulip Poplars that didnt even loose a branch. 

 

[moneypitmike]

2 hours ago, ineedsnow said:

Congrats NNE on the 12z GFS 

snow day and long weekend.

[ineedsnow]

1 hour ago, moneypitmike said:

snow day and long weekend.

I work weekends and only holidays off are Easter Thanksgiving and Christmas but I get paid for a bunch of them 

[tamarack]

2 hours ago, BrianW said:

@tamarack Helped my wifes uncle close up their lake cabin this weekend near Morristown, NJ. Some impressive tree damage from that July 3rd storm with lots of local reports of 75 -80 mph winds.

Almost all the damage was red oaks that split around 25-50 feet up. There is a lot of old growth trees and  tons of 100+ year old giant Tulip Poplars that didnt even loose a branch. 

 

Red oaks, also white ash, are easy to split.  Therefore, when those species have V-shaped forks, they're vulnerable to ice and/or wind.

Another pure blue day after the frost.  Colors are past peak, ash nearly bare, oaks mostly still green.

[kdxken]

4 hours ago, tamarack said:

Red oaks, also white ash, are easy to split.  Therefore, when those species have V-shaped forks, they're vulnerable to ice and/or wind.

Another pure blue day after the frost.  Colors are past peak, ash nearly bare, oaks mostly still green.

Some red maple today. Dries quick! 

 

[vortex95]

12 hours ago, CoastalWx said:

Talking about Southern New England, though not the mid Atlantic. Don’t care about MEHSIS

#3 NESIS March 1960...you won't find that kind of 20"+ coverage that often in SNE.  31" at ACK for their all-time.  Explain that!

https://www.ncei.noaa.gov/monitoring-content/snow-and-ice/rsi/nesis/19600302-19600305-8.77.jpg

And as I mentioned, if snow measurements were consistent going way back, you;d be surprised at Miller A totals. esp. since their LEQ is usually higher.  Recall many locations through the 1950s used to melt a snowfall down and then multiple by 10!  As if all storms were 10:1?

Given how ridiculously cold the Feb 1899 blizzard was, and the above?  @CoastalWxneeds to adjust! 

And you exclude NNE and @dendrite.  Very disappointing!  Too much IMBY and relying on anecdotal snowstorm experience!  Need to look outside the Weymouth/GHG/Brockton realm.

 

[40/70 Benchmark]

24 minutes ago, vortex95 said:

#3 NESIS March 1960...you won't find that kind of 20"+ coverage that often in SNE.  31" at ACK for their all-time.  Explain that!

https://www.ncei.noaa.gov/monitoring-content/snow-and-ice/rsi/nesis/19600302-19600305-8.77.jpg

And as I mentioned, if snow measurements were consistent going way back, you;d be surprised at Miller A totals. esp. since their LEQ is usually higher.  Recall many locations through the 1950s used to melt a snowfall down and then multiple by 10!  As if all storms were 10:1?

Given how ridiculously cold the Feb 1899 blizzard was, and the above?  @CoastalWxneeds to adjust! 

And you exclude NNE and @dendrite.  Very disappointing!  Too much IMBY and relying on anecdotal snowstorm experience!  Need to look outside the Weymouth/GHG/Brockton realm.

 

Miller B is ideal for his area and it isn't close.

[Torch Tiger]

5 minutes ago, 40/70 Benchmark said:

Miller B is ideal for his area and it isn't close.

Yeah Miller A's almost never work out near 100%/max for the south shore. 

Also iirc 1996 was a wild OES/OEH setup for the south coast, the storm had long passed but it was still snowing 1-3" /hr from S. Wey to TAN to nearly EWB for much longer than everyone.  Wasn't there some secondary development/ Miller B-ish? 

Caught the edge of that persistent banding in N Attleboro/Mansfield, 33" depth iirc.  Maybe I'm not rememering that one correctly

[40/70 Benchmark]

13 minutes ago, Torch Tiger said:

Yeah Miller A's almost never work out near 100%/max for the south shore. 

Also iirc 1996 was a wild OES/OEH setup for the south coast, the storm had long passed but it was still snowing 1-3" /hr from S. Wey to TAN to nearly EWB for much longer than everyone.  Wasn't there some secondary development/ Miller B-ish? 

Caught the edge of that persistent banding in N Attleboro/Mansfield, 33" depth iirc.  Maybe I'm not rememering that one correctly

Well, there was a good amount of preexisting pack going into that one...I had a foot in Wilmington, and you probably had more down there.

I don't think there was a secondary.....that was pure Miller A, although def. could have been some OES assist...it was a really cold storm.

[DirtySnowDen]

[512high]

1 hour ago, kdxken said:

Some red maple today. Dries quick! 

 

Never gets old watching you drop those! Then what? Do you have a skidder to pull out?

chipper? Logging road? Neat stuff….

[WxWatcher007]

11 hours ago, WinterWolf said:

Well…in leftovers I think he meant another Rainey weekend for SNE, and that would be par for this spring, summer and now fall. 

I know. I’m skeptical we ever see anything if high pressure builds in and buries that potential system south. 

2 hours ago, vortex95 said:

#3 NESIS March 1960...you won't find that kind of 20"+ coverage that often in SNE.  31" at ACK for their all-time.  Explain that!

https://www.ncei.noaa.gov/monitoring-content/snow-and-ice/rsi/nesis/19600302-19600305-8.77.jpg

And as I mentioned, if snow measurements were consistent going way back, you;d be surprised at Miller A totals. esp. since their LEQ is usually higher.  Recall many locations through the 1950s used to melt a snowfall down and then multiple by 10!  As if all storms were 10:1?

Given how ridiculously cold the Feb 1899 blizzard was, and the above?  @CoastalWxneeds to adjust! 

And you exclude NNE and @dendrite.  Very disappointing!  Too much IMBY and relying on anecdotal snowstorm experience!  Need to look outside the Weymouth/GHG/Brockton realm.

 

1899 is one of the all time greats in U.S. history imo. 

[DirtySnowDen]

I don’t want to wade into the Canadian vs. USA maple syrup debate, but isn’t this week similar to a 6.9/7 for production (or reduction, as its Fall) ?

[CoastalWx]

7 hours ago, 40/70 Benchmark said:

Well, there was a good amount of preexisting pack going into that one...I had a foot in Wilmington, and you probably had more down there.

I don't think there was a secondary.....that was pure Miller A, although def. could have been some OES assist...it was a really cold storm.

There was definitely some OE for sure. 

[kdxken]

8 hours ago, 512high said:

Never gets old watching you drop those! Then what? Do you have a skidder to pull out?

chipper? Logging road? Neat stuff….

I buck the tree into rounds and load onto my ATV trailer. Works out well . I bring it right to the splitter. Certainly not high volume but with my small ATV I can get almost anywhere.

[kdxken]

23 hours ago, dendrite said:

One of the historically fun obs out of SCH

KSCH 041300Z 30016G26KT 5/16SM TSSN FG OVC005 00/M A2978 RMK LTG HIT TREE AE SLPNO T0000////

Get on it. 

 

[CoastalWx]

Stein and boredom are back 

[forkyfork]

3 minutes ago, CoastalWx said:

Stein and boredom are back 

time to talk about snow that melted decades ago

[40/70 Benchmark]

2 hours ago, CoastalWx said:

There was definitely some OE for sure. 

Tough not to be in that area when dealing with a true arctic airmass and NE winds.

[40/70 Benchmark]

20 minutes ago, forkyfork said:

time to talk about snow that melted decades ago

Your trolling is growing on me 

[dendrite]

1 hour ago, kdxken said:

Get on it. 

 

Lawn thread

And that burr looks a bit hybrid 

[CoastalWx]

19 minutes ago, 40/70 Benchmark said:

Tough not to be in that area when dealing with a true arctic airmass and NE winds.

We slotted briefly too. Sun was almost visible for an hour.

[Typhoon Tip]

Must've beeen distracted ... because the speed in which I've just realized we're moving through the solar transition season is something else.  It just occurred to me we are closer to the solar minimum now, than the max, along that timeline journey.  

[Brewbeer]

51/51F, sun if peaking through as the morning fog finally lifts

[dendrite]

I think the boundary just went through. Was overcast most of the morning and just had a thin line of showers go through. Mostly clear now.

51.4°

[Great Snow 1717]

12 hours ago, vortex95 said:

#3 NESIS March 1960...you won't find that kind of 20"+ coverage that often in SNE.  31" at ACK for their all-time.  Explain that!

https://www.ncei.noaa.gov/monitoring-content/snow-and-ice/rsi/nesis/19600302-19600305-8.77.jpg

And as I mentioned, if snow measurements were consistent going way back, you;d be surprised at Miller A totals. esp. since their LEQ is usually higher.  Recall many locations through the 1950s used to melt a snowfall down and then multiple by 10!  As if all storms were 10:1?

Given how ridiculously cold the Feb 1899 blizzard was, and the above?  @CoastalWxneeds to adjust! 

And you exclude NNE and @dendrite.  Very disappointing!  Too much IMBY and relying on anecdotal snowstorm experience!  Need to look outside the Weymouth/GHG/Brockton realm.

 

You are correct regarding snow measurements. Back in the day the measurements were often taken after a storm had ended. I'll go to my grave stating the snowfall totals for the Merrimack Valley area for the Blizzard of 78 were on the low side..

[40/70 Benchmark]

1 minute ago, Great Snow 1717 said:

You are correct regarding snow measurements. Back in the day the measurements were often taken after a storm had ended. I'll go to my grave stating the snowfall totals for the Merrimack Valley area for the Blizzard of 78 were on the low side..

That is true, but the same issue concerning measuring inconsistencies plagued Miller B events, as well.