IowaStorm05 Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 Guys, when you get a 20 inch snowfall in these conditions, what kind of drifting can I expect at 230' elevation here? The parking lot in front of our building is literally a crescent-shaped bowl below the main road, within the shallow canyon. Snow has seemingly maxed out in the lot before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ineedsnow Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 Just now, IowaStorm05 said: Guys, when you get a 20 inch snowfall in these conditions, what kind of drifting can I expect at 230' elevation here? The parking lot in front of our building is literally a crescent-shaped bowl below the main road, within the shallow canyon. Snow has seemingly maxed out in the lot before. how does elevation have anything to do with it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUNNAWAYICEBERG Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 1 minute ago, IowaStorm05 said: Guys, when you get a 20 inch snowfall in these conditions, what kind of drifting can I expect at 230' elevation here? The parking lot in front of our building is literally a crescent-shaped bowl below the main road, within the shallow canyon. Snow has seemingly maxed out in the lot before. Run out and buy a snorkeler just to be safe. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowcrazed71 Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 2 minutes ago, dryslot said: You don't know who they are? Well.. I have a husband myself.... But didn't know they referred to themselves as queens. Lol. And yes.. I know who they are.... :-) 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JC-CT Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 2 minutes ago, IowaStorm05 said: Guys, when you get a 20 inch snowfall in these conditions, what kind of drifting can I expect at 230' elevation here? The parking lot in front of our building is literally a crescent-shaped bowl below the main road, within the shallow canyon. Snow has seemingly maxed out in the lot before. Why would elevation matter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katabatic Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 Couldn’t stand it living in Maryland so got the last Acela out of DC and barreling towards South Station. Love the commentary and insight. It’s show time - lets get the party started. Cheers to something we’ll be telling stories about 20 years down the road. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spanks45 Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 7 minutes ago, RUNNAWAYICEBERG said: Yea…i’ll hedge a 960ish surface pressure will have tighter mid levels. Just a guess. Well, at this point let's just take the Rap/Euro Kuchera for here and hope for the best... but for real. What are you thinking? I'm hoping for 6-10.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawnmov Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 Seems like the 18z EURO turned the day and the forum’s mood around like a Donta Hightower strip sack 1 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 2 minutes ago, JC-CT said: Why would elevation matter Ever been to the top of a mountain? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 1 minute ago, JC-CT said: Why would elevation matter It piles up higher due to the atmospheric pressure being lower. Much higher. Here at 1k a 2” snowfall routinely drifts to 10-12 feet 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUNNAWAYICEBERG Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 @EastonSN+ I like how we can remove the bottom end of the sref members and see the mean climb. That’s the only way to use these. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warwick WX Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 1 minute ago, dryslot said: Ever been to the top of a mountain? Ever seen a grown man naked. [/Airplane] 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Smith Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 In the 1888 blizzard, people got a daily weather forecast from their newspaper. It might come out around 3-4 p.m. with a forecast sent to NYC from DC by telegraph. So I looked into the situation. On Saturday March 10 the forecast for Sunday (NYC) said something like rain turning to snow, colder. On Sunday March 11th the paper had no forecast. The news reports said something about telegraph lines down between DC and New York due to a storm (DC had 10-12 inches from the blizzard). The storm hit in full force on the night of 11th-12th and raged away all day Monday 12th and into part of Tuesday 13th, 17 inches fell in the city and as you know 30-50 inches over large parts of the Hudson valley and western New England. So in that case, people had some idea that snow was coming and beyond that, no information, complicated by the rare non-appearance of their forecast from the head office. This led to the situation of regional offices in places like New York and Boston. When it comes to times before the telegraph and the infant version of the NWS (the weather bureau), I guess people went with natural signs like a halo around the moon presaging a storm. But from what I've read about the famous "Washington-Jefferson" 30 inch snowfall in Virginia in Jan 1772, even such intelligent people as two of the first presidents had no idea it was coming, both were forced to make alternate plans on routine business journeys and could not reach their homes as planned for days, or without considerable difficulty. Accounts of the big hurricane force windstorm in Ireland in 1839 make it fairly clear that nobody was remotely prepared for such an event there. And the journal of Alexis Caldwell at Providence RI seldom gives any clue as to his state of preparedness for the coming day's weather (his journal runs from 1831 to 1860) although having read much of it I never encountered any expressions of surprise except perhaps for the night that his 7 inch rain gauge overflowed. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolri_wx Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 19 minutes ago, JC-CT said: No, but if it's a squirter then maybe I dunno - the latent heat release might make it chase the convection caused by it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IowaStorm05 Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 10 minutes ago, ineedsnow said: how does elevation have anything to do with it Excuse me for not being more detailed, but on a micro scale elevation affects wind speeds. In my case, it is a shallow canyon that is oriented at a river that runs west to east, surrounded by higher ground on either N/S side, and sometimes it causes our property to jack. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Valley Dryslot Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 The RAP has been slowly ticking slower and deeper with the low for the past several cycles. And even then, the outcome might be slightly west of it because it keeps initializing with the trough not as amped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeonPeon Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 I totally buy a death band in the typical place west of here creating problems for me. What I don't buy is the odd wobble as the storms recenters eastward. I'll be interested to watch it happen though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUNNAWAYICEBERG Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 3 minutes ago, Spanks45 said: Well, at this point let's just take the Rap/Euro Kuchera for here and hope for the best... but for real. What are you thinking? I'm hoping for 6-10.... Upton’s 8-12” is reasonable but I get why you remain cautious at 6-10”. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warwick WX Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 Suitable beer for the occasion after storm prep: 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spanks45 Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 Just now, RUNNAWAYICEBERG said: Upton’s 8-12” is reasonable but I get why you remain cautious at 6-10”. Knowing the dramatic cutoff is going to be somewhere, hopefully it doesn't split Southbury.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhineasC Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 6 minutes ago, HoarfrostHubb said: It piles up higher due to the atmospheric pressure being lower. Much higher. Here at 1k a 2” snowfall routinely drifts to 10-12 feet The drifts are well over my house here at 1550'. Send help. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 That's the best 3k run up here, 1.53" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUNNAWAYICEBERG Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 Just now, Spanks45 said: Knowing the dramatic cutoff is going to be somewhere, hopefully it doesn't split Southbury.... We’ll know fairly early where the western edge will be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JC-CT Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 Just now, RUNNAWAYICEBERG said: We’ll know fairly early where the western edge will be. Doubtful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattb65 Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 16 minutes ago, IowaStorm05 said: Guys, when you get a 20 inch snowfall in these conditions, what kind of drifting can I expect at 230' elevation here? The parking lot in front of our building is literally a crescent-shaped bowl below the main road, within the shallow canyon. Snow has seemingly maxed out in the lot before. I was a senior at BC for the Jan 2005 blizzard with drifting to 5 ft blocking the front of our dorm in the morning. Plenty of cars on Comm Ave turned into snow blobs. For Nemo I lived in JP and we had 4 ft+ drifts. If you get 20+ with these winds the drifts will be solid Edit: these are all at close to sea level so quadruple amounts for your elevation as others have noted. /s 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhineasC Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 10 minutes ago, katabatic said: Couldn’t stand it living in Maryland Lord, I know. I feel you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolri_wx Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 Just took the dog for a walk to get his business done. Took twice as long as usual walked almost over a mile round trip to get it done. If that’s not a sign we are in for a big one tonight and tomorrow, I don’t know what else would be. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiktock Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 Just wanted to say I was here for the 400 page thread. Lurking for years. I watch Ray's posts as I'm just east in Plaistow, NH just north of Haverhill. Looking forward to a good one! 6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 7 minutes ago, IowaStorm05 said: Excuse me for not being more detailed, but on a micro scale elevation affects wind speeds. In my case, it is a shallow canyon that is oriented at a river that runs west to east, surrounded by higher ground on either N/S side, and sometimes it causes our property to jack. 20” of snow could yield 4-6’ drifts. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ineedsnow Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 radar is sweet looking to the south Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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