Damage In Tolland Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 This pattern so reminds me of the 80's. Quick cold shots and minor snow events where you went to bed white and woke up to grass.. happened so many times as I was growing up. Winters where your biggest storm was 6 inches . Harsh cold at times, but little snow. I know it's early but man are the signals showing themselves. Maybe Jan will change that. Time will tell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 22 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said: This pattern so reminds me of the 80's. Quick cold shots and minor snow events where you went to bed white and woke up to grass.. happened so many times as I was growing up. Winters where your biggest storm was 6 inches . Harsh cold at times, but little snow. I know it's early but man are the signals showing themselves. Maybe Jan will change that. Time will tell There were some awful winters back then. Esp late '80s and even into early '90s. I remember several of the dreaded "go to bed snowing and wake up with just some piles leftover" events. Seemed to happen all the time and then we'd go wild when 3-6" with no mixing was forecast. Fwiw I don't think we necessarily are going to see that. We could but next week could easily be a snow to ice event too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 6 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said: There were some awful winters back then. Esp late '80s and even into early '90s. I remember several of the dreaded "go to bed snowing and wake up with just some piles leftover" events. Seemed to happen all the time and then we'd go wild when 3-6" with no mixing was forecast. Fwiw I don't think we necessarily are going to see that. We could but next week could easily be a snow to ice event too. Yeah I know what you mean though. It very well may not happen. Though if I forecast a big winter this year, I'd be very concerned overall. There's a lot of posters here that are younger and think all these snowy winters and big storms are normal. I remember many of my adolescent years thinking 2-5 or 3-6 was a big storm. We'd go entire school years with no snow days. And then maybe once every few years we got a big one that dropped 8-12". It really makes me appreciate what we've had so many winters since the early 90's to current . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 21 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said: There were some awful winters back then. Esp late '80s and even into early '90s. I remember several of the dreaded "go to bed snowing and wake up with just some piles leftover" events. Seemed to happen all the time and then we'd go wild when 3-6" with no mixing was forecast. Fwiw I don't think we necessarily are going to see that. We could but next week could easily be a snow to ice event too. Funny you say that because recent confirmation bias tells me those are winters like '13-14 and '15-16....it rains and there are some brutal air masses at times but it warms up just in time to rain again. The January 2014 more inches of rain than snow pattern while still being cold, or the all out torch of last December followed by some brutal air masses including the February shot but with very little to show for it.... so nice to see those ghosts disappear for now up here. Probably different patterns or background atmospheric states than the 80s, but the snow lovers worst pattern is the rain then brutal cold one. It's the true kick in the nuts. Especially when the snow events hit to the south in the cold shots. Just think if DCA to PHL was getting warning snows every time it got really cold, while it would rain whenever it precipitated at the ORH/BOS latitude. I'm sure that's happened a lot though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8611Blizz Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 13 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said: Yeah I know what you mean though. It very well may not happen. Though if I forecast a big winter this year, I'd be very concerned overall. There's a lot of posters here that are younger and think all these snowy winters and big storms are normal. I remember many of my adolescent years thinking 2-5 or 3-6 was a big storm. We'd go entire school years with no snow days. And then maybe once every few years we got a big one that dropped 8-12". It really makes me appreciate what we've had so many winters since the early 90's to current . Tell me about it. In all my high school years (84-88) I could count on one hand the number of snow days and still have fingers left over. If we head into that type of stretch again this place will have to shut down. Weenie suicides like you read about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnno Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 40 minutes ago, 8611Blizz said: Tell me about it. In all my high school years (84-88) I could count on one hand the number of snow days and still have fingers left over. If we head into that type of stretch again this place will have to shut down. Weenie suicides like you read about. OT but could the lack of snow days been partially because it was a different time and everyone was a little "tougher"... seems like schools close over 2-4" storms these days if the timing is right... I wasn't born until 86 so thankfully I don't remember these terrible winters anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan76 Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 Well....Feb 78' we had the whole week off from school. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 Funny, I was thinking of the 80s, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 Funny how you guys are talking about part of the 80s and 90s sucking. Apparently it's not just limited to New England because we've had the same discussion in the GL/OV forum. There are some years where the seasonal snowfall totals weren't bad but overall, bigger storms were harder to come by. Not like really big storms are as frequent in the Midwest compared to New England but that was a particularly rough stretch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 7 hours ago, Johnno said: OT but could the lack of snow days been partially because it was a different time and everyone was a little "tougher"... seems like schools close over 2-4" storms these days if the timing is right... I wasn't born until 86 so thankfully I don't remember these terrible winters anyway Well, when I was a kid we had to walk to school through 2' of snow uphill. Both ways....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 7 hours ago, Dan76 said: Well....Feb 78' we had the whole week off from school. 3 weeks for some of us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathertree4u Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 12 minutes ago, HoarfrostHubb said: 3 weeks for some of us Places well south of your region had an unusually harsh winter 77'-78'; Nashville TN had at least a trace of snow on the ground from January 16 1977 - March 6 1978; in March alone we recorded 5.5"; the seasonal total that year was 41.3" many times over our seasonal average! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 18 minutes ago, weathertree4u said: Places well south of your region had an unusually harsh winter 77'-78'; Nashville TN had at least a trace of snow on the ground from January 16 1977 - March 6 1978; in March alone we recorded 5.5"; the seasonal total that year was 41.3" many times over our seasonal average! Nice! In the Feb 1978 Blizzard we got close to 48", although reports vary. My school's roof collapsed, hence the long time off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 There was a reason why I've been saying mullets and Iroc-Zs for the last 10 days . Terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8611Blizz Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 Well some of us couldn't afford the iroc and had to settle for the z28.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazey Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 Nothing new about a Christmas torch. We're used to it by now. Actually you can plan around it. I'm going to deep fry the turkey again this year if the rain holds off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted December 12, 2016 Author Share Posted December 12, 2016 I just want easy driving to NYC 12/26 to pick up our daughter at JFK 6AM 12/27 after 4 months away and an immediate drive back. Looks good but it's way out there. Parts of the 50s were like the 80s so maybe these patterns repeat every 30 years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoth Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 7 hours ago, 40/70 Benchmark said: Funny, I was thinking of the 80s, too. A rough about face on the models since the Euro's weenie run last Wednesday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 1 hour ago, CoastalWx said: There was a reason why I've been saying mullets and Iroc-Zs for the last 10 days . Terrible. Are you thinking 60's most of Xmas week and Day itself for everyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 3 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said: Are you thinking 60's most of Xmas week and Day itself for everyone? Seems we're having a wonderful Torchmas Time. 60s are tough and I would never speculate this far out. Just a terrible fooking look. Hopefully it changes, but it's vomit worthy down here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 5 minutes ago, CoastalWx said: Seems we're having a wonderful Torchmas Time. 60s are tough and I would never speculate this far out. Just a terrible fooking look. Hopefully it changes, but it's vomit worthy down here. Any hope of change to colder sometime in Jan or Feb? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Googlymoogly Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 8 minutes ago, CoastalWx said: Seems we're having a wonderful Torchmas Time. 60s are tough and I would never speculate this far out. Just a terrible fooking look. Hopefully it changes, but it's vomit worthy down here. Odds of it changing? The non-meteorologist in me wants to say something about model volatility, cold blast residue, etc. Can't believe we torch another Xmas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JC-CT Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 Any hope of change to colder sometime in Jan or Feb?No. No hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JC-CT Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 Rock-a-bye weenie, on the hill top.When the wind blows, we'll be in the warm sector... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 2 minutes ago, Googlymoogly said: Odds of it changing? The non-meteorologist in me wants to say something about model volatility, cold blast residue, etc. Can't believe we torch another Xmas Well they'll be a boundary nearby so perhaps it's not that torchy....I wouldn't get specific this far out. I'm just annoyed at the look. I haven't heard anything about January. It did look colder a couple of weeks ago, but perhaps it changed. We'll see what the weeklies do...they did get the breakdown right it seems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathertree4u Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 2 hours ago, HoarfrostHubb said: Nice! In the Feb 1978 Blizzard we got close to 48", although reports vary. My school's roof collapsed, hence the long time off Sweet, people down here would lose their everlasting minds if we got something like that. The most we have ever gotten was back in the late 1800's at 17" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 Looks like models honing in on a sneaky 1-2 inch snowfall tomorrow night in SNE south of Interstate 90.. even for Jimmy perhaps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 Lol at the Christmas meltdowns on Dec 12th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 1 minute ago, Ginx snewx said: Lol at the Christmas meltdowns on Dec 12th Everything is awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 2 minutes ago, CoastalWx said: Everything is awesome. You are going to miserable this year, your hand has shown lol. Oh me o my Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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