winterwarlock Posted July 17, 2024 Share Posted July 17, 2024 93 with heat index of 105 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rtd208 Posted July 17, 2024 Share Posted July 17, 2024 Current temp 93/DP 78/RH 64% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted July 17, 2024 Share Posted July 17, 2024 38 minutes ago, uofmiami said: Manhattan microsites back up Central Park temp since winds were out of S mostly yesterday. Need that due W wind for the heat. 31 minutes ago, FPizz said: Why though? I mean I get that wind direction matters as it does everywhere, but why doesn't the tree canopy that everyone bitches about every single day here care about west winds? Does it blow the canopy open all of sudden? The canopy should effect the site no matter what, but on west wind days NYC is sometimes the highest temp. Maybe the tree canopy is overstated and it is really more about the winds. I have noticed that some of the personal sites near NYC often match the temp, and I'm sure those aren't under trees, but that fact often gets ignored. The downtown areas of Manhattan are cooler on a south wind off the Harbor. Midtown and Central Park are the warmest parts of the city since they are away from the water. The old NWS office near the Battery would always run cooler than Central Park. The Manhattan moseonet sites with in a few miles of the park were 98° yesterday. This is why Central Park was always warmer than LGA before the ASOS set up in 1995. The NJ mesonet does a great job measuring temperatures in park-like settings like New Brunswick. The sensor isn’t under the trees and the sensor with the radiation shield is out in the sun. Shift that sensor into the nearby wooded area under the trees like the newer location in Central Park and the temperature would be 3 to sometimes 5 degrees cooler. This is why temperatures were never officially measured underneath trees. In a wet pattern enhanced transpiration can have an even greater cooling effect. The issue in Central Park isn’t that it’s a park, it’s that the old site was out in the open and not underneath the trees. So on major 95°+ days before the 90s it was 3° to 5° warmer than it is now. It’s strictly a change in how they measure the temperature and not whether it’s a park or airport. Trying to compare the warm season high and data to before the change in 1995 is like comparing apples to oranges. Also the rain gauge is under the trees and errors in rainfall and rates occur. This is why they NWS tells their observers not to measure rainfall or temperature under trees at their official COOP sites. Plus the reason the highest Central Park wind gust in 1974 hasn’t been exceeded is the trees are growing around it reducing the wind measurement accuracy. So the Central Park temperature yesterday was at least 4° too low. 28th St. / Chelsea 98 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uofmiami Posted July 17, 2024 Share Posted July 17, 2024 The site closest to NYC was 95 not 98 as claimed. Manhattan Mesonet 95 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psv88 Posted July 17, 2024 Share Posted July 17, 2024 89 now. Maybe we get to 90 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted July 17, 2024 Share Posted July 17, 2024 10 minutes ago, uofmiami said: The site closest to NYC was 95 not 98 as claimed. Manhattan Mesonet 95 Can’t use that site to compare since it’s at an elevation of 311 ft. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psv88 Posted July 17, 2024 Share Posted July 17, 2024 15 minutes ago, bluewave said: Can’t use that site to compare since it’s at an elevation of 311 ft. They’ll keep trying. 89.9 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted July 17, 2024 Share Posted July 17, 2024 2 hours ago, SACRUS said: GFS more prominent in building the Atlantic ridge in 7/24 - 26 with 500 MB height >594DM. That should setup some stronger humidity / heat potential. Looks overall warm-hot and humid with more frequent rain chances. Some of that heat building in the southwest may come east in spurts beyond the end of next week / 29th. Pretty impressive heat closer to the drought areas before the heavy rains arrive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MANDA Posted July 17, 2024 Share Posted July 17, 2024 Sure hope I can cash in later because in this initial round of storms I got skunked. Missed some good stuff just to my NW. Been on the losing end of late around here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eduardo Posted July 17, 2024 Share Posted July 17, 2024 4 hours ago, MANDA said: Well, we are halfway through meteorological Summer. Won't be long before we are playing kick the "Canadian cold" can. Hope not but we'll see. “Some long-range models are seeing a favorable MJO flip guys. Delayed but not denied!” 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRRTA22 Posted July 17, 2024 Share Posted July 17, 2024 Rotation on that cell near Sparta,NJ Edit* rotation just west of hopatcong,NJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hooralph Posted July 17, 2024 Share Posted July 17, 2024 1 hour ago, Gravity Wave said: I assume that these departures are specific to the summer given how the sun roasts everything? It would be interesting to see the winter version. I think that’s the full year. I think it comes from a national study. You can click on the article and then go to the research. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACRUS Posted July 17, 2024 Share Posted July 17, 2024 94 / 72 clouds building in with storms into NW NJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve392 Posted July 17, 2024 Share Posted July 17, 2024 Got nixle town warning for severe thunderstorm warning from my pd. Nothing even close on radar. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MANDA Posted July 17, 2024 Share Posted July 17, 2024 Missed to my northwest and now they are blowing up to my east. Sucks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uofmiami Posted July 17, 2024 Share Posted July 17, 2024 Video of the Ambrose jet yesterday cranking along Long Beach https://www.instagram.com/reel/C9hsHPNxlbs/?igsh=MTJzNmtkMzloZ3h1YQ== 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterwx21 Posted July 17, 2024 Share Posted July 17, 2024 6 minutes ago, MANDA said: Missed to my northwest and now they are blowing up to my east. Sucks. The most widespread activity is supposed to be way later. HRRR has it around 8 to 9pm. Hopefully the majority of the area will get hit then. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Euripides Posted July 17, 2024 Share Posted July 17, 2024 8 minutes ago, winterwx21 said: The most widespread activity is supposed to be way later. HRRR has it around 8 to 9pm. Hopefully the majority of the area will get hit then. Hate that we have to play the waiting game and see if the radar lights up as the evening goes on. At least the conditions are there. Just need a nice soaker with some good thunder. Will pass on damaging winds and hail. I did well on Sunday afternoon and got in on one last night on northern end of that line so it might be my area's turn for the miss today. Areas north of the city look like they will get multiple lines. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MANDA Posted July 17, 2024 Share Posted July 17, 2024 Buddy in Pittstown, Hunterdon County still without power at this hour. Trees down all over the place. Just want some rain. I can do without all of that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted July 17, 2024 Share Posted July 17, 2024 17 minutes ago, uofmiami said: Video of the Ambrose jet yesterday cranking along Long Beach https://www.instagram.com/reel/C9hsHPNxlbs/?igsh=MTJzNmtkMzloZ3h1YQ== Great video. That was actually from the severe storm in the evening. I was on the beach for a storm like that about 20 years and got sandblasted heading home. Thanks for posting as it was only a few blocks away from where I used to go to the beach. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted July 17, 2024 Author Share Posted July 17, 2024 17 minutes ago, winterwx21 said: The most widespread activity is supposed to be way later. HRRR has it around 8 to 9pm. Hopefully the majority of the area will get hit then. Hope so. About to get some nuisance light showers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowlover11 Posted July 17, 2024 Share Posted July 17, 2024 As usual storm blew up north and east of rockland Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golfer67 Posted July 17, 2024 Share Posted July 17, 2024 6 minutes ago, Snowlover11 said: As usual storm blew up north and east of rockland Torrential rain here with lots of thunder/lightning...bit of wind. Just to the north by Carmel town hall looks like they got smoked based off radar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted July 17, 2024 Share Posted July 17, 2024 Line just to my west. Looks like a crush job unless it weakens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm1220 Posted July 17, 2024 Share Posted July 17, 2024 43 minutes ago, bluewave said: Great video. That was actually from the severe storm in the evening. I was on the beach for a storm like that about 20 years and got sandblasted heading home. Thanks for posting as it was only a few blocks away from where I used to go to the beach. Wow that was crazy and one of the more impressive T-storm wind events you’ll see there. Especially since the heart of that storm stayed off the beach, must have been outflow driven? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gravitylover Posted July 17, 2024 Share Posted July 17, 2024 Well that was fun, .8 in less than 10 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted July 17, 2024 Share Posted July 17, 2024 13 minutes ago, jm1220 said: Wow that was crazy and one of the more impressive T-storm wind events you’ll see there. Especially since the heart of that storm stayed off the beach, must have been outflow driven? Yeah, they were on the northern edge and got the strong outflow. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gravitylover Posted July 17, 2024 Share Posted July 17, 2024 33 minutes ago, sn0w said: Torrential rain here with lots of thunder/lightning...bit of wind. Just to the north by Carmel town hall looks like they got smoked based off radar. 1 mile S it was fun, .8 in less than 10 minutes. The HWY Dept station across the street from town hall had 1.2. The wind was good and definitely swirled around but it looks like there may have been a tornado about 3 or 4 miles N of me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BxEngine Posted July 17, 2024 Share Posted July 17, 2024 Haverstraw area got absolutely crushed with that storm that went thru northern rockland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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