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Two Mdt to high impact events NYC subforum; wknd Jan 6-7 Incl OBS, and mid week Jan 9-10 (incl OBS). Total water equiv by 00z/11 general 2", possibly 6" includes snow-ice mainly interior. RVR flood potential increases Jan 10 and beyond. Damaging wind.


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1 minute ago, Brasiluvsnow said:

Reading this and other reports is just amazing as here in New City I went outside a few times and although it was raining ridiculously hard the wind did not seem to not be an issue here at all and you are very close to me 

I believe new city fh or the town garage registered 23 mph and 2 miles southeast hit 46 lol

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5 minutes ago, jm1220 said:

Some flooding in Long Beach in the vulnerable spots but it’s probably good news that the worst of the winds last night were during low tide. Out east may be worse since the SW winds generate a fetch that builds toward the east end. 

Yeah I have family on the water in west islip and the canals are spilling over 

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8 minutes ago, BxEngine said:

I believe new city fh or the town garage registered 23 mph and 2 miles southeast hit 46 lol

I had friends asking me last night "how is it by you" and I was telling them besides that it was absolutely pouring and I kept checking my basement and garage for water the wind as I said was not bad,,,,I was outside a few times checking the perimeter  of my house,,,,,,wild how it varied so close to home

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8 minutes ago, Brasiluvsnow said:

Reading this and other reports is just amazing as here in New City I went outside a few times and although it was raining ridiculously hard the wind did not seem to not be an issue here at all and you are very close to me 

 

6 minutes ago, BxEngine said:

I believe new city fh or the town garage registered 23 mph and 2 miles southeast hit 46 lol

I'm in Bardonia just off 304 and the wind here wasn't crazy. The power flickered around 10:30 but that was it. I feel the wind was stronger in the December storm. The rain performed as forecasted. My hometown of Pompton Plains is completely flooded this morning.

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1 minute ago, NJwx85 said:

 

I'm in Bardonia just off 304 and the wind here wasn't crazy. The power flickered around 10:30 but that was it. I feel the wind was stronger in the December storm. The rain performed as forecasted. My hometown of Pompton Plains is completely flooded this morning.

Yes the winds in that storm were definitely worse,,,,,my lights never flickered last night not once you know how that goes when we see them flickering there's a good chance its going out

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4 minutes ago, NJwx85 said:

 

I'm in Bardonia just off 304 and the wind here wasn't crazy. The power flickered around 10:30 but that was it. I feel the wind was stronger in the December storm. The rain performed as forecasted. My hometown of Pompton Plains is completely flooded this morning.

I just drove west from tappan to montvale, the difference in a couple miles is kind of staggering. Tappan still had flooding issues, debris everywhere, flooded houses in sparkill and tappan. Montvale there arent branches down.

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2 minutes ago, BxEngine said:

I just drove west from tappan to montvale, the difference in a couple miles is kind of staggering. Tappan still had flooding issues, debris everywhere, flooded houses in sparkill and tappan. Montvale there arent branches down.

Just read that Clarkstown recorded 4.7 inches of rain,,,,yep it was absolutely pouring

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3 minutes ago, BxEngine said:

I just drove west from tappan to montvale, the difference in a couple miles is kind of staggering. Tappan still had flooding issues, debris everywhere, flooded houses in sparkill and tappan. Montvale there arent branches down.

I think the wind had an easier time in areas closest to the river. So that explains why Nyack, Tappan had more damage than areas even a few miles further West.

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51 minutes ago, mikeysed said:

Does Sussex county have any snowpack left or did it melt the 10 to 13 inches?

I have patches and piles left, but I'm only at 800 feet and started from about 8".  I'm guessing higher up the mountain still has a few inch snowpack, especially out toward the ridges of Stokes and High Point.  I might take a ride up Sparta Mountain later on if I have time.

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as for the rivers in New Jersey perhaps it’s time to start thinking like they did on Staten Island after Sandy.

 

Maybe it’s time to move people away from those rivers.

 

Obviously, we’re in a new climate regime now with this kind of thing is going to be happening frequently and it’s not right to keep people in harms way. Especially when harm seems to come every few weeks now.

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Pressure peaked at 1030.8mb overnight yesterday and bottomed out at 981.4mb overnight today. Nearly a 50mb difference.

3.55 event total, rainfall rates peaked at just under 5” per hour in the squall line, in the dead of winter. Our climate is really living up to my username this decade.

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12 minutes ago, Cfa said:

Pressure peaked at 1030.8mb overnight yesterday and bottomed out at 981.4mb overnight today. Nearly a 50mb difference.

3.55 event total, rainfall rates peaked at just under 5” per hour in the squall line, in the dead of winter. Our climate is really living up to my username this decade.

I peaked at 1030.6mb and bottomed out at 980.6mb, making for exactly a 50mb difference.

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56 minutes ago, Brasiluvsnow said:

Reading this and other reports is just amazing as here in New City I went outside a few times and although it was raining ridiculously hard the wind did not seem to not be an issue here at all and you are very close to me 

According to the NWS gust reports, there were winds, but perhaps some gusts in most parts, unless of course you were very close to the coast, as usual.  Sustained winds have picked up this morning though.  Winds rarely follow the forecast, as its hard to mix down to surface level.  

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52 minutes ago, Allsnow said:

My local area made it out relatively unscathed. Didn’t loose power and wind wasn’t very strong imby. Can’t believe schools had a 2 hour delay for this haha 

It isn't just about the kids in your town, teachers have to drive to get there and many might need the extra time from floods.

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OKX max gust reports herein.  https://www.weather.gov/media/okx/windpns2.pdf

PHI max gust reports herein.    https://www.weather.gov/wrh/TextProduct?product=pnsphi

 

Attached CoCoRaHs rainfall reports and snowfall reports. 

 

CP had 1.95" the two storms total 2.6". 

ABE two storms total near 3.39"

This above does it for me... hopefully most here found this thread some fun. Hopefully more of a wintry fun develops for NYC-LI before spring.

 

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54 minutes ago, the_other_guy said:

as for the rivers in New Jersey perhaps it’s time to start thinking like they did on Staten Island after Sandy.

 

Maybe it’s time to move people away from those rivers.

 

Obviously, we’re in a new climate regime now with this kind of thing is going to be happening frequently and it’s not right to keep people in harms way. Especially when harm seems to come every few weeks now.

After Irene FEMA finally came in and moved people out of the hardest hit areas. It's not as easy as it sounds. People are stubborn and don't want to leave. It's not just homes that are hit hard. The Pompton and Passaic rivers both impact highways and businesses. Rt 23 is now shutdown in both directions in Pequannock Township. If you're not familiar with the area you wouldn't know but this is the major artery that connects Rt 80/46 with I-287 and points North and West.

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19 minutes ago, FPizz said:

This is 5 minutes from me.

3.35 ambient station, 3.42 cocorahs gauge.

Schools closed since the Raritan and its branches flooded over here leaving some neighborhoods cutoff.

Was trying to figure out which bridge that is. On Old York going towards Duke Island? Not Studdiford, right?

3.4" on my station...didn't lose power for once.

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1 hour ago, the_other_guy said:

as for the rivers in New Jersey perhaps it’s time to start thinking like they did on Staten Island after Sandy.

 

Maybe it’s time to move people away from those rivers.

 

Obviously, we’re in a new climate regime now with this kind of thing is going to be happening frequently and it’s not right to keep people in harms way. Especially when harm seems to come every few weeks now.

 

3 minutes ago, NJwx85 said:

After Irene FEMA finally came in and moved people out of the hardest hit areas. It's not as easy as it sounds. People are stubborn and don't want to leave. It's not just homes that are hit hard. The Pompton and Passaic rivers both impact highways and businesses. Rt 23 is now shutdown in both directions in Pequannock Township. If you're not familiar with the area you wouldn't know but this is the major artery that connects Rt 80/46 with I-287 and points North and West.

The government is rarely effective at this type of thing (nor should they be?). What will eventually happen is that the Insurance industry will review the hardest hit areas and - if warranted - rates will skyrocket and it will become nearly impossible to obtain coverage. This, in turn, drives people to leave. 

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1 hour ago, the_other_guy said:

as for the rivers in New Jersey perhaps it’s time to start thinking like they did on Staten Island after Sandy.

 

Maybe it’s time to move people away from those rivers.

 

Obviously, we’re in a new climate regime now with this kind of thing is going to be happening frequently and it’s not right to keep people in harms way. Especially when harm seems to come every few weeks now.

There is one area in town that floods badly multiple times a year. Every time people have all their ruined stuff on the curb and it's sad, but nothing is going to change. They live in the lowest point right next to the river. 

It's a very old section of town with some historic buildings, but people need to get out of there. Not sure what can be done with it. Abandoned houses and a park it will become.

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