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Just now, MarkO said:

Still very tough to bet against Harvey. Even last night he wasn't backing down. 

I'm with him...even these NW models are still giving 6-8" for the pike.

 

But the synoptic setup has me leaning that the WAA is going to have to fight pretty hard to eventually make progress, so I'm hedging a bit colder on the actual outcome and it seems like Harvey is too.  We'll probably get the messenger shuffle inside 24 hours too givne this is not a phased system with an arctic airmass to the north of it.

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Again...toss the surface crap aside...

But when talking about a battle wrt midlevels and synoptics, do you want the euro on your side or the NCEP duo? It's hard to toss the euro when it is steadfast for more than one run...especially with how the GFS is performing lately.

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1 minute ago, ORH_wxman said:

I'm with him...even these NW models are still giving 6-8" for the pike.

 

But the synoptic setup has me leaning that the WAA is going to have to fight pretty hard to eventually make progress, so I'm hedging a bit colder on the actual outcome and it seems like Harvey is too.  We'll probably get the messenger shuffle inside 24 hours too givne this is not a phased system with an arctic airmass to the north of it.

how similar is this to the storm in November, I seem to remember the models doing this as well...I ended up with 8 inches in that storm

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11 minutes ago, dryslot said:

Will be back down to four posters posting.

I'll be hanging in here.

4 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said:

These melts are based on the gfs right? Just want to make sure we are following. 

Yes--and all the exuberance of late was over the NAM.  Make sure we're following that, too. 

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12 minutes ago, Baroclinic Zone said:

Can we just stop posting those dumb TT snow maps that say "includes sleet" in accumulations.  Use some other site like Pivotal.

+1

Also, we (should) all know where to find those, so maybe we don't have to make the thread longer than it needs to be? We're well ahead of MidA in the "most posts" contest as it stands.

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5 minutes ago, dryslot said:

The real problem is the southern stream s/w is more amped which is allowing it to track a little further NW.

The biggest difference is at hour 42.  After that it plunges northeastward to just shy of New York City by hour 48.  Most storms would track east/northeast at hour 42 but this seems to want to go head first right into the arctic dome which I find very strange.

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Just now, Greg said:

The biggest difference is at hour 42.  After that it plunges noreastward to just shy on New York City by hour 48.  Most storms would track east/northeast at hour 42 but this seems to want to go head first right into the arctic dome which I find strange.

not the first time that's happened

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