Great Snow 1717 Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 2 minutes ago, Baroclinic Zone said: We want the Eskimos cryin' for their mamas in the melted permafrost. A nice winter storm warning across much of central AK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STILL N OF PIKE Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 It’s fascinating to me how northern central New England can score consistently more with this pattern , the further south one goes seems you need more and more ducks lining up i would be interested to see what the futility record is for a season North of Concord NH (Dentrite land) , up to say Franklin and Plymouth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 4 minutes ago, STILL N OF PIKE said: It’s fascinating to me how northern central New England can score consistently more with this pattern , the further south one goes seems you need more and more ducks lining up i would be interested to see what the futility record is for a season North of Concord NH (Dentrite land) , up to say Franklin and Plymouth Actually it's mostly been northern New England based of mostly Mesoscale features verses Synoptic scale events but overall yes. Central New England hasn't done that great either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 Just now, Greg said: Actually it's mostly been northern New England based of mostly Mesoscale features verses Synoptic scale events but overall yes. Central New England hasn't done that great either. It wouldn't have taken much for SNE to get hit hard in the last two events....but that's what latitude does. The more you have, there's a little more margin for error on front enders and SWFE type storms. Theres years where we get hit just fine in those types of storms like '07-'08, '08-'09, and then there's patterns like this where we can't catch a break. This system is another. SNE is cold enough the majority of this system but we get "caught" between two areas of lift. There's no large scale longwave pattern that produces that outcome consistently. It's just atmospheric chaos conspiring against the snow enthusiasts in SNE. It happens...some years more often than others. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 10 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said: It wouldn't have taken much for SNE to get hit hard in the last two events....but that's what latitude does. The more you have, there's a little more margin for error on front enders and SWFE type storms. Theres years where we get hit just fine in those types of storms like '07-'08, '08-'09, and then there's patterns like this where we can't catch a break. This system is another. SNE is cold enough the majority of this system but we get "caught" between two areas of lift. There's no large scale longwave pattern that produces that outcome consistently. It's just atmospheric chaos conspiring against the snow enthusiasts in SNE. It happens...some years more often than others. Yea, the gradient idea in the first half has worked out great, it was just a bit too far north for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 30 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said: It wouldn't have taken much for SNE to get hit hard in the last two events....but that's what latitude does. The more you have, there's a little more margin for error on front enders and SWFE type storms. Theres years where we get hit just fine in those types of storms like '07-'08, '08-'09, and then there's patterns like this where we can't catch a break. This system is another. SNE is cold enough the majority of this system but we get "caught" between two areas of lift. There's no large scale longwave pattern that produces that outcome consistently. It's just atmospheric chaos conspiring against the snow enthusiasts in SNE. It happens...some years more often than others. We’ve said it a few times now, but SNE is living thru a DC type winter. AN temps and most storms missing to the north . All we can do is hope that storm track shifts south as the next 60 days move along 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 Euro bumped up QPF again. Could be a sneaky Advisory event as snow growth looks good. 15:1 ratios on this should get widespread 3". But man nothing kills discussion like a NNE-only type event lead-in, ha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 Looks like a win for downeast ME. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 The more I look at this, all the ski areas from Adirondacks/Greens/Whites should do pretty well. Mid-level lift punching through snow growth...a bunch of half foot totals wouldn't surprise me in the favored elevations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 16 minutes ago, weathafella said: Looks like a win for downeast ME. Usually do in these. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 NGW this run. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 James is banned from starting threads. Unless it’s about cape cod oes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 2 hours ago, Greg said: Actually it's mostly been northern New England based of mostly Mesoscale features verses Synoptic scale events but overall yes. Central New England hasn't done that great either. NNE hasn't had a good December either. We've just gotten something as opposed to nothing. J.Spin's stats show how it was a below normal snow December up here, pretty decently. Places like CNH on northward are still riding the big November snows which is why the season totals are somewhat decent despite December. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TauntonBlizzard2013 Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 56 minutes ago, powderfreak said: Euro bumped up QPF again. Could be a sneaky Advisory event as snow growth looks good. 15:1 ratios on this should get widespread 3". But man nothing kills discussion like a NNE-only type event lead-in, ha. Nice middle finger covering the MA RI and CT region. Enjoy the snow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 22 minutes ago, powderfreak said: NNE hasn't had a good December either. We've just gotten something as opposed to nothing. J.Spin's stats show how it was a below normal snow December up here, pretty decently. Places like CNH on northward are still riding the big November snows which is why the season totals are somewhat decent despite December. I would hardly call 5.5" for December anything remotely being normal here, 2 biggest storm were both in November Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamarack Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 8 minutes ago, dryslot said: I would hardly call 5.5" for December anything remotely being normal here, 2 biggest storm were both in November My 7.5" is 12.1" BN. The Friday mess brought 3.5", better than most folks got, and though it was Dec's biggest snow it ranks 5th for the season, behind yesterday and 3 in Novie. Dews here are about zero. Given the modest qpf, I wonder how much will get eaten on the way down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongBeachSurfFreak Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 1 hour ago, powderfreak said: The more I look at this, all the ski areas from Adirondacks/Greens/Whites should do pretty well. Mid-level lift punching through snow growth...a bunch of half foot totals wouldn't surprise me in the favored elevations. Southern Vermont mountains are really really hurting right now. All the rain has soaked into the November pack. The worst ice I have seen. There is a reason I had the mountain to myself yesterday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 26 minutes ago, dryslot said: I would hardly call 5.5" for December anything remotely being normal here, 2 biggest storm were both in November Yeah but to some in SNE it seems better because we've had some chances and a couple light events, that's what I was trying to say. And luckily most of us have kept snow cover consistently from the November snows...even if it resembles a skating rink, it's a white landscape which goes a long ways in the dark Dec days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 1 hour ago, powderfreak said: Euro bumped up QPF again. Could be a sneaky Advisory event as snow growth looks good. 15:1 ratios on this should get widespread 3". But man nothing kills discussion like a NNE-only type event lead-in, ha. Yippee. .02". Sign me up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 9 minutes ago, powderfreak said: Yeah but to some in SNE it seems better because we've had some chances and a couple light events, that's what I was trying to say. And luckily most of us have kept snow cover consistently from the November snows...even if it resembles a skating rink, it's a white landscape which goes a long ways in the dark Dec days. Here its been a different story, We have lost the cover a few times and then was left with rems on a couple others, No pack really to speak of, The one that got me was the brown christmas, It just doesn't feel right unless your in the south i guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 James sucking the hairy wazoo with this thread... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 Fair to say his juju is poo poo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 5 minutes ago, dryslot said: Here its been a different story, We have lost the cover a few times and then was left with rems on a couple others, No pack really to speak of, The one that got me was the brown christmas, It just doesn't feel right unless your in the south i guess. It's been pretty much dogsh*t everywhere since November. Just different degrees of dogsh*t...powderfreak and the elevated areas and some CAD areas like tamarack have kept the glacial pack through the garbage but a lot of peeps like your hood in NNE/CNE have had to start over a couple times. SNE has pretty much been skunked except a bit on Xmas eve in some spots. Hopefully all of that changes 1/8. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 1 minute ago, ORH_wxman said: It's been pretty much dogsh*t everywhere since November. Just different degrees of dogsh*t...powderfreak and the elevated areas and some CAD areas like tamarack have kept the glacial pack through the garbage but a lot of peeps like your hood in NNE/CNE have had to start over a couple times. SNE has pretty much been skunked except a bit on Xmas eve in some spots. Hopefully all of that changes 1/8. And we were not starting from much, lol, It was better in Nov when we went 5.5" on the 16th then 6.5" on the 20th, Had more of a pack then but that got washed away as we torch pretty badly on south winds here, It really has not been good outside of areas that held on to what little they have got, I can relate to the frustration, Maybe we start to turn the corner on the 8th, It does look decent from there on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klw Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 1 hour ago, dryslot said: NGW this run. NGW? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 Just now, klw said: NGW? Nam gone wild 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalcottWx Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 Another exciting event coming! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 1 hour ago, dryslot said: Here its been a different story, We have lost the cover a few times and then was left with rems on a couple others, No pack really to speak of, The one that got me was the brown christmas, It just doesn't feel right unless your in the south i guess. I don't know why I thought you had kept at least 2-3" on the ground...you're usually better at CAD than here. But I do think we just had so much moisture in the pack from the November snows it was just never warm enough long enough to torch it away. And the CAA always seemed to come in quick up here after these events I guess, no days of downslope dandy NW flow. But calling what I've had in my yard a snowpack is a liberal interpretation of the word. More like a 3-5" crusty glacier you can walk on most of this month. The 1-2" of snow/sleet/ZR has been just enough to make most of these cutters a neutral gain/loss...only adding QPF to the concrete in the end. Been a pretty sh*tty month after about the 10th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PowderBeard Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 Burlington just upped things. Definitely heading to Magic tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 1 hour ago, Baroclinic Zone said: Yippee. .02". Sign me up. Just get some 25:1 fluff and you will have 0.5” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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