psv88 Posted August 15, 2018 Share Posted August 15, 2018 19 minutes ago, LongBeachSurfFreak said: The nyc joke continues. I think this wet period pretty much proved the wet vegetation theory. I wonder when Upton throws in the towel and officially stops using that site as the official one for nyc climate They should. Siting guidelines state that a station should be situated over terrain which represents the general area of the station. Therefore EWR and LGA are proper citings, as they reflect the concrete jungle, while the Park represents Dutchess County, even though it is the official reading for the nearly total concrete Manhattan. To be entirely accurate, the sensor should be placed in the middle of Park Avenue... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravity Wave Posted August 15, 2018 Share Posted August 15, 2018 Where would you put a sensor in NYC that wouldn't be disproportionately affected by the heat from cars/grates/etc? The middle of the Brooklyn Bridge? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rtd208 Posted August 15, 2018 Author Share Posted August 15, 2018 Current temp 90/DP 70/RH 50% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewYorkweatherfan Posted August 15, 2018 Share Posted August 15, 2018 It’s 91 in the Bronx at my station Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted August 15, 2018 Share Posted August 15, 2018 56 minutes ago, Gravity Wave said: Where would you put a sensor in NYC that wouldn't be disproportionately affected by the heat from cars/grates/etc? The middle of the Brooklyn Bridge? The old location in Central Park before the 1996 move was fine. It was out in the open near the castle. The current temperature sensor is in the shade blocked by trees and other vegetation. There are rules for ASOS/ COOP/Mesonet sites that the sensors can't be blocked. In rural or park settings the ideal location is in a clearing like the sensors at BNL. The video below describes the proper siting that NY Mesonet uses. Notice the sensors are in a clearing and not underneath trees. The NYC ASOS photos below show how poorly the site is sitted. Tree growth over the sensor has had another 5 years to grow since 2013. http://www.weather2000.com/ASOS/NYC_ASOS.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongBeachSurfFreak Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 3 hours ago, Gravity Wave said: Where would you put a sensor in NYC that wouldn't be disproportionately affected by the heat from cars/grates/etc? The middle of the Brooklyn Bridge? See above. But the bigger point is NYC’s temps are way off (on the cool side) of other much smaller cities in the north east. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACRUS Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 8 - 15 ACY: 91 LGA: 91 TEB: 90 EWR: 90 New Brnwck: 89 PHL: 89 JFK: 89 TTN: 88 ISP: 88 BLM: 88 NYC: 86 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CIK62 Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 Next 8 days averaging 78degs., or 4degs. AN Month to date is +3.2[79.2]. Should be +3.5[78.7] by the 24th. Not understanding talk about a pattern change becoming apparent by end of the month. CFS has a +200m ridge for us during the month of Sept. on average. Last days of Aug. and LDW look AN. In fact the CFS does not budge till Feb. with this +200m which is INSANE and obviously wrong, but by how much and when/where? The next 5 months can't be +5 to +10 can they?????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACRUS Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 2 hours ago, CIK62 said: Next 8 days averaging 78degs., or 4degs. AN Month to date is +3.2[79.2]. Should be +3.5[78.7] by the 24th. Not understanding talk about a pattern change becoming apparent by end of the month. CFS has a +200m ridge for us during the month of Sept. on average. Last days of Aug. and LDW look AN. In fact the CFS does not budge till Feb. with this +200m which is INSANE and obviously wrong, but by how much and when/where? The next 5 months can't be +5 to +10 can they?????? Looks to turn more wet than heat 8/19 - 8/23-24 before next surge of heat on around 8/25. So wet and warm-at times hot continues overall with an over performing WAR. Today will be the hottest day of this heat surge with Friday and Saturday likely dealing with storms/clouds but have potential to hit 90+. Sat 850s surge to 20C, but plenty of storms could be firing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 Record high minimum this morning at LGA of 79 degrees. Today is the 26th consecutive day at or above 70 for LGA. This is the 4th longest streak on record. http://wxweb.meteostar.com/meteogram/link.shtml?choice=KLGA #1....34 days....2006 #2....32 days....1980 #3....28 days....2010 #4....26 days....2018 Wildfire smoke from the West has made it here. So the sky has a hazy appearance instead of the recent Bermuda Blue pattern. http://mp1.met.psu.edu/~fxg1/GOES_NE/loop60.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterwx21 Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 1 hour ago, SACRUS said: Looks to turn more wet than heat 8/19 - 8/23-24 before next surge of heat on around 8/25. So wet and warm-at times hot continues overall with an over performing WAR. Today will be the hottest day of this heat surge with Friday and Saturday likely dealing with storms/clouds but have potential to hit 90+. Sat 850s surge to 20C, but plenty of storms could be firing. The models are showing us finally getting spectacular weather with very low dewpoints for a few days mid-late next week after the front goes through tuesday night. Probably the nicest weather of the summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyWx Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 2 hours ago, bluewave said: Wildfire smoke from the West has made it here. So the sky has a hazy appearance instead of the recent Bermuda Blue pattern. http://mp1.met.psu.edu/~fxg1/GOES_NE/loop60.html Wow, that's impressive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NycStormChaser Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 Tomorrow night looks good for another round of Crazy thunderstorms in NYC around 8 to 11pm. Soundings suggest a tornado is possible. If so, that would be the second in one month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rtd208 Posted August 16, 2018 Author Share Posted August 16, 2018 34 minutes ago, seanick said: Tomorrow night looks good for another round of Crazy thunderstorms in NYC around 8 to 11pm. Soundings suggest a tornado is possible. If so, that would be the second in one month. I think the SPC upgrades us to slight risk for tomorrow afternoon/night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnoSki14 Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 3 hours ago, SACRUS said: Looks to turn more wet than heat 8/19 - 8/23-24 before next surge of heat on around 8/25. So wet and warm-at times hot continues overall with an over performing WAR. Today will be the hottest day of this heat surge with Friday and Saturday likely dealing with storms/clouds but have potential to hit 90+. Sat 850s surge to 20C, but plenty of storms could be firing. That's a significant cool down post Saturday, one of the first signs that summers back is bending. But alas they'll be plenty more warm/wet weather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycwinter Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 6 minutes ago, SnoSki14 said: That's a significant cool down post Saturday, one of the first signs that summers back is bending. But alas they'll be plenty more warm/wet weather. sunday and monday are going to feel very nice.. first time all august and a lot of july it will feel that nice ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WEATHERBUFF Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 4 hours ago, SACRUS said: Looks to turn more wet than heat 8/19 - 8/23-24 before next surge of heat on around 8/25. So wet and warm-at times hot continues overall with an over performing WAR. Today will be the hottest day of this heat surge with Friday and Saturday likely dealing with storms/clouds but have potential to hit 90+. Sat 850s surge to 20C, but plenty of storms could be firing. 90 is not hot for today's climate in reality over the last 15 years or so it is only a bit above normal for NYC and Philly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 12 minutes ago, SnoSki14 said: That's a significant cool down post Saturday, one of the first signs that summers back is bending. But alas they'll be plenty more warm/wet weather. the "backbreaker front" usually the first sign that fall is right around the corner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CIK62 Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 Meanwhile back at the OK Corral it is 85.4 with a hazy sun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongBeachSurfFreak Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 1 hour ago, Brian5671 said: the "backbreaker front" usually the first sign that fall is right around the corner. I can’t wait. I’m just looking forward to lower dews which have been absent this summer. Brutal for guys like me who work outside... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishRob17 Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 1 hour ago, Brian5671 said: backbreaker Not you specifically but that term, so sick of it already Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forkyfork Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 Just now, IrishRob17 said: Not you specifically but that term, so sick of it already they've been waiting since june 1 to post about it. then when it gets hot again they'll say how it's not so bad because the sun angle is lower Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravity Wave Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 2 hours ago, seanick said: Tomorrow night looks good for another round of Crazy thunderstorms in NYC around 8 to 11pm. Soundings suggest a tornado is possible. If so, that would be the second in one month. 12z NAM had a nasty looking squall line along with 3000 CAPE, -6 LI and 3-5(!!!) EHI from NNJ/the City up through the LHV tomorrow at 8:00. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 22 minutes ago, forkyfork said: they've been waiting since june 1 to post about it. then when it gets hot again they'll say how it's not so bad because the sun angle is lower whoopdee do- a day of 90 in September....it's over as far as the big long lasting heatwave by about 9/1 or so....clock's ticking...days are shortening...soon we'll be singing Xmas tunes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishRob17 Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 2 minutes ago, Brian5671 said: whoopdee do- a day of 90 in September....it's over as far as the big long lasting heatwave by about 9/1 or so....clock's ticking...days are shortening...soon we'll be singing Xmas Christmas tunes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 Just now, IrishRob17 said: Holiday tunes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NycStormChaser Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 21 minutes ago, Gravity Wave said: 12z NAM had a nasty looking squall line along with 3000 CAPE, -6 LI and 3-5(!!!) EHI from NNJ/the City up through the LHV tomorrow at 8:00. It backed off from previous run for the immediate NYC metro but we have to wait until to see what happens in the morning first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juliancolton Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 1 minute ago, IrishRob17 said: Maybe there's a difference, "Christmas" songs being timeless Yuletide hymns whereas Xmas music is just that one Mariah Carey song on repeat from Halloween until MLK Day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 2 minutes ago, Juliancolton said: Maybe there's a difference, "Christmas" songs being timeless Yuletide hymns whereas Xmas music is just that one Mariah Carey song on repeat from Halloween until MLK Day same ol 100 burnt out songs over and over and over. Worse than a classic rock station... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravity Wave Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 2 minutes ago, bluewave said: September has become more like a 4th month of summer since the late 90's. Record number of years with a September average temperature at or above 70 for places like EWR and LGA. Almost as warm as an average June. I was born in 92 and can't remember a single "fall-like" September. More like a lot of drier Junes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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