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2015/16 Winter Banter, Complaint, Whining Thread - Part 2

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2015-2016 #worstwinterever in Detroit.

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At least you have 2013-2014 and 2014-2015 to hang your hat on. We're on a multi-year true snowstorm drought down here in Columbus.

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At least you have 2013-2014 and 2014-2015 to hang your hat on. We're on a multi-year true snowstorm drought down here in Columbus.

Hope you guys down in Ohio get a big dog soon.

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For the crap sandwich that this winter has served up here, it's had some moments. Two 6"+ snowstorms and a big sleet storm beats nickel and diming.

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For the crap sandwich that this winter has served up here, it's had some moments. Two 6"+ snowstorms and a big sleet storm beats nickel and diming.

 

 

It has been plain miserable here.  I have tried not to be bitter but today is just too much.  A couple inches of sleet mixed in with rain and a lot of contact melting.  Now I am told to wait, there is another storm brewing.  I'm sick of brewing.  Bring on *SPRING* and do it now!

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Typical storm for the midwest, nothing to get upset over (if you got snow).

 

The standard 4-10 inch band.

 

Our systems are comparable to electric circular saws.... They are scary as heck until the cord gets pulled out of the wall. That's essentially what happens with the system gets more than 800 miles from the gulf. The cord came unplugged and its now the blade is coasting until it stops. 

 

Peak at radar, it looks exactly like that.

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Typical storm for the midwest, nothing to get upset over (if you got snow).

The standard 4-10 inch band.

Our systems are comparable to electric circular saws.... They are scary as heck until the cord gets pulled out of the wall. That's essentially what happens with the system gets more than 800 miles from the gulf. The cord came unplugged and its now the blade is coasting until it stops.

Peak at radar, it looks exactly like that.

Yeah I still get suckered into thinking that the biggest storms out here *could* drop 18+ inches, but it seems like it takes something just short of a meteorological miracle for that to happen.

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Typical storm for the midwest, nothing to get upset over (if you got snow).

The standard 4-10 inch band.

Our systems are comparable to electric circular saws.... They are scary as heck until the cord gets pulled out of the wall. That's essentially what happens with the system gets more than 800 miles from the gulf. The cord came unplugged and its now the blade is coasting until it stops.

Peak at radar, it looks exactly like that.

Haven't you had a 12" + storm each year for the past 3 years? Lol.

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To bad that run 6 days ago on the GFS never happened in Indiana, Ohio and Michigan. That was the one run where the bomb exploded and created a true blizzard with widespread 50+ miles gusts over a large distance.

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Haven't you had a 12" + storm each year for the past 3 years? Lol.

Lol, he just had one in November, while us in the metro got the shaft.

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Typical storm for the midwest, nothing to get upset over (if you got snow).

The standard 4-10 inch band.

Our systems are comparable to electric circular saws.... They are scary as heck until the cord gets pulled out of the wall. That's essentially what happens with the system gets more than 800 miles from the gulf. The cord came unplugged and its now the blade is coasting until it stops.

Peak at radar, it looks exactly like that.

Totally disagree. The hilly areas of semi....Since 2014.

Early Jan 2014 17.0"

Early Feb 2015 14.5"

Nov 2015 13.2"

This storm gunning for 10-12"

We do real well here. I cannot complain!

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Since 2005, how many 12"+ storms have you had?

7.

April 05, NYE 08, Dec 08, Jan 14, feb 15, nov 15 and if it that band to the NW hits us should get me over a foot. Just under 11" now.

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I'm not getting sucked into following every model run on the storm next week. I can't handle getting fringed again after watching for a week. Good luck to the Chicago-Detroit corridor. My big dog down here:

 

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7.

April 05, NYE 08, Dec 08, Jan 14, feb 15, nov 15 and if it that band to the NW hits us should get me over a foot. Just under 11" now.

Thats incredible.

 

Since 2005, even DTW has had 2 with 6 storms of 10"+. Imby its been 2 of 12"+ and 7 of 10"+. That is incredibly good for us.

 

Since 2005, DTW has had 26 storms of 6"+ (I dont have my data available to count attm, but its probably the same or a few more). Climo would indicate in that time frame we should have seen 13 or 14. Ill say it again....its been good times for snow lovers all around here.

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Thats incredible.

 

Since 2005, even DTW has had 2 with 6 storms of 10"+. Imby its been 2 of 12"+ and 7 of 10"+. That is incredibly good for us.

 

Since 2005, DTW has had 26 storms of 6"+ (I dont have my data available to count attm, but its probably the same or a few more). Climo would indicate in that time frame we should have seen 13 or 14. Ill say it again....its been good times for snow lovers all around here.

 

In speaking with locals around here, apparently that sweet zone was often here in the 60s, 70s, and 80s. The past couple decades...not so much.

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I'm not getting sucked into following every model run on the storm next week. I can't handle getting fringed again after watching for a week. Good luck to the Chicago-Detroit corridor. My big dog down here:

 

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I have watched a lot from the sidelines this winter and am so fed up with near misses, dry slots, marginal temps.  Next week's system will feature cold rain again after another decent weekend.  I keep hoping we have a decent weekend and then it doesn't flip back. 

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The saw analogy works for Iowa.  Our biggest storms tend to be capped around a foot.  I don't think I've measured a foot in my lifetime.  It's tough enough to just get six inches.

 

Wow, that sucks.  I can think of several big dogs where we got 8-11" and just missed out on some higher amounts, but even here I can think of at least 6 or 7 footers since grade school.  GHD1 and NY99 both were in the 16-18" range.  Think 87 was right around a foot.  Feb 22 '94 gave us like 13-14".  Jan '95 15".  GHD2 was 15.x".

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The saw analogy works for Iowa. Our biggest storms tend to be capped around a foot. I don't think I've measured a foot in my lifetime. It's tough enough to just get six inches.

Yup it's tough in this neck of the woods too. I haven't measured 12"+ since February 2007, March 2013 came very close, but fell short. Meanwhile Alek has pulled in two 20"+ storms in 5 years. Lol. Snow climo just isn't that great without the lakes in the Midwest.

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In speaking with locals around here, apparently that sweet zone was often here in the 60s, 70s, and 80s. The past couple decades...not so much.

That is completely believable. This area did not do great in the '60s and while we had good '70s winters, they didn't compare to areas in SW MI. We had more warning criteria snowstorms this decade then the vaunted '70s.

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It's worked out pretty good for you, no?

Compared to other areas I suppose. A 7 inch November storm, A big sleet storm, A 14 inch early February storm and the recent 10 inch storm were the highlights. December was of course a dumpster fire and January was nothing special. So, while we made out better than most, it still wasn't great. Depending on what March brings, I could end up with above average seasonal snowfall though. lol

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Here's a sampling of climate sites across the Midwest/Great Lakes and their percent of normal snowfall thus far this season. Not many surprises here, basically 100ish miles either side of a line from Indy to Cleveland is this year's screw zone. 

Site	Observed Snowfall	Normal	Percent of Normal
CLE	21.6	51.2	42.2%
TOL	14.6	30	48.7%
IND	12.1	22.8	53.1%
DAY	10.6	18.9	56.1%
ANJ	55.6	99.1	56.1%
FWA	16.2	28	57.9%
MSN	24.4	40.5	60.2%
BUF	47.1	77.7	60.6%
HTL	33.4	53.8	62.1%
MQT	94.3	149.7	63.0%
GRR	41.2	63.9	64.5%
CMH	14.5	21	69.0%
RFD	21.2	30.6	69.3%
STL	10.6	14.7	72.1%
PIA	15.1	20.9	72.2%
APN	47.9	65	73.7%
PIT	23.9	32.3	74.0%
MSP	30.7	41.1	74.7%
MKE	29.1	37.2	78.2%
DTW	26.6	33.2	80.1%
MLI	21.2	26.3	80.6%
LSE	27.4	33.9	80.8%
DLH	53.2	64.5	82.5%
RST	32.5	39.3	82.7%
GRB	33.5	39.5	84.8%
SPI	15.6	17.8	87.6%
CVG	16.9	18.3	92.3%
ORD	27.5	29.3	93.9%
SBN	59.3	57.3	103.5%
DSM	30	27.9	107.5%
FNT	50.4	37.9	133.0%
SDF	14.4	10.8	133.3%
EVV	14.2	10.5	135.2%
ALO	41.5	28.5	145.6%

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Here's a sampling of climate sites across the Midwest/Great Lakes and their percent of normal snowfall thus far this season. Not many surprises here, basically 100ish miles either side of a line from Indy to Cleveland is this year's screw zone. 

Site	Observed Snowfall	Normal	Percent of Normal
CLE	21.6	51.2	42.2%
TOL	14.6	30	48.7%
IND	12.1	22.8	53.1%
DAY	10.6	18.9	56.1%
ANJ	55.6	99.1	56.1%
FWA	16.2	28	57.9%
MSN	24.4	40.5	60.2%
BUF	47.1	77.7	60.6%
HTL	33.4	53.8	62.1%
MQT	94.3	149.7	63.0%
GRR	41.2	63.9	64.5%
CMH	14.5	21	69.0%
RFD	21.2	30.6	69.3%
STL	10.6	14.7	72.1%
PIA	15.1	20.9	72.2%
APN	47.9	65	73.7%
PIT	23.9	32.3	74.0%
MSP	30.7	41.1	74.7%
MKE	29.1	37.2	78.2%
DTW	26.6	33.2	80.1%
MLI	21.2	26.3	80.6%
LSE	27.4	33.9	80.8%
DLH	53.2	64.5	82.5%
RST	32.5	39.3	82.7%
GRB	33.5	39.5	84.8%
SPI	15.6	17.8	87.6%
CVG	16.9	18.3	92.3%
ORD	27.5	29.3	93.9%
SBN	59.3	57.3	103.5%
DSM	30	27.9	107.5%
FNT	50.4	37.9	133.0%
SDF	14.4	10.8	133.3%
EVV	14.2	10.5	135.2%
ALO	41.5	28.5	145.6%

 

That NE line of screwage continues up here. Toronto's at 31.6% of normal (12.0" vs a normal of 38.1").

 

London's doing better. 47.2"/normal 61.1" (77.3%).

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That NE line of screwage continues up here. Toronto's at 31.6% of normal (12.0" vs a normal of 38.1").

 

London's doing better. 47.2"/normal 61.1" (77.3%).

 

I figured it continued northeast into Canada, I wasn't sure where to find the official stats though. That Toronto number is just brutal. Sad when Louisville, Kentucky is beating Toronto for snowfall.

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I figured it continued northeast into Canada, I wasn't sure where to find the official stats though. That Toronto number is just brutal. Sad when Louisville, Kentucky is beating Toronto for snowfall.

 

Yep, brutal as it gets. Still have a chance at futility if we can avoid another 3.9". I think CLE is still in the running for futility as well? I believe you said you mark is in the low 30s.

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