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Feb 8th-9th Obs/Discussion Thread


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If Euro comes in at least semi-snowy for Baltimore and Northern MD, I expect Winter Storm Warnings for them, Anne Arundel County and south should drop to Winter Weather Advisories. Also UKMET is another Baltimore precip jack. ,UKMET map shows 3C around DC 18z tomorrow, 5C Line Richmond ENE. UKIE is a little warm for comfort for Baltimore/NE MD PUMMELED , highs 36 Tuesday Afternoon. >>Well I was wrong NWS Pulled Trigger, might change to Advisory though with bad Euro/18z RGEM and GFS.

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Watches and warnings don't cause snow to fall.

 

Having said that, I think that it says something that there are no advisories at all for most of the region

 

LWX has been holding them off since no precip was to fall in the form of snow till late tonight, so they have time to evaluate more model runs (per their AFD)

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Agreed. Neither does a forecast for 6-9". Don't need the euro to make my forecast but I'll probably toss my numbers up around 115

I think a model gives much more insight into what might happen that a watch or warning.  I think for some, the watch/warning thing just adds to their excitement.  And that's ok.

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Up here in NE MD, I feel like this is the first storm since I've lived here (2010) that might not go lock step with DC.

 

Still not much confidence. The cold air will be where the rates are. Light rates will be non accu snow IMO.

 

thanks! I can rest easy now

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MDZ004>006-011-014-503-505>508-090115-
/O.UPG.KLWX.WS.A.0002.160209T0500Z-160210T1100Z/
/O.NEW.KLWX.WS.W.0002.160209T0300Z-160210T1100Z/
FREDERICK MD-CARROLL-NORTHERN BALTIMORE-SOUTHERN BALTIMORE-
ANNE ARUNDEL-NORTHWEST MONTGOMERY-NORTHWEST HOWARD-
CENTRAL AND SOUTHEAST HOWARD-NORTHWEST HARFORD-SOUTHEAST HARFORD-
1210 PM EST MON FEB 8 2016

...WINTER STORM WARNING IN EFFECT FROM 10 PM THIS EVENING TO 6 AM
EST WEDNESDAY...

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN BALTIMORE MD/WASHINGTON HAS
ISSUED A WINTER STORM WARNING FOR SNOW...WHICH IS IN EFFECT FROM
10 PM THIS EVENING TO 6 AM EST WEDNESDAY. THE WINTER STORM WATCH
IS NO LONGER IN EFFECT.

* PRECIPITATION TYPE...SNOW

* ACCUMULATIONS...SNOW ACCUMULATION OF 4 TO 8 INCHES...WITH
LOCALLY HIGHER AMOUNTS POSSIBLE.

* TIMING...PRECIPITATION WILL BEGIN THIS EVENING INITIALLY AS A
RAIN AND SNOW MIX. THE PRECIPITATION WILL TRANSITION TO ALL SNOW
BY MIDNIGHT AND LAST THROUGH TUESDAY NIGHT...WITH PERIODS OF
HEAVY SNOW DURING THIS TIME.

* IMPACTS...ROADS WILL BECOME SNOW COVERED...RESULTING IN
HAZARDOUS TRAVEL CONDITIONS.

* WINDS...NORTH 5 TO 10 MPH.

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URGENT - WINTER WEATHER MESSAGE

NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE BALTIMORE MD/WASHINGTON DC

1210 PM EST MON FEB 8 2016

DCZ001-MDZ013-504-VAZ052>054-501-505-506-090115-

/O.EXB.KLWX.WW.Y.0005.160209T0300Z-160210T0500Z/

DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA-PRINCE GEORGES-

CENTRAL AND SOUTHEAST MONTGOMERY-

PRINCE WILLIAM/MANASSAS/MANASSAS PARK-FAIRFAX-

ARLINGTON/FALLS CHURCH/ALEXANDRIA-NORTHERN FAUQUIER-

WESTERN LOUDOUN-EASTERN LOUDOUN-

1210 PM EST MON FEB 8 2016

...WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY IN EFFECT FROM 10 PM THIS EVENING TO

MIDNIGHT EST TUESDAY NIGHT...

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN BALTIMORE MD/WASHINGTON HAS

ISSUED A WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY FOR SNOW...WHICH IS IN EFFECT

FROM 10 PM THIS EVENING TO MIDNIGHT EST TUESDAY NIGHT.

* PRECIPITATION TYPE...SNOW.

* ACCUMULATIONS...SNOW ACCUMULATION OF 1 TO 3 INCHES...WITH

LOCALLY HIGHER AMOUNTS PARTICULARLY IN THE NORTHWEST SUBURBS.

* TIMING...A MIXTURE OF RAIN AND SNOW WILL DEVELOP THIS EVENING.

PRECIPITATION WILL TURN TO ALL SNOW AROUND OR SHORTLY AFTER

MIDNIGHT. PERIODS OF SNOW WILL CONTINUE INTO TUESDAY AND THE

ADVISORY MAY NEED TO BE EXTENDED.

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I think likely is the prudent way to go.

 

Public products don't need anything else.  Personally it has always seemed like a CYA tool to me.

 

Not even sure why they do these maps animated (unless I am wrong on that)... put the map out once or twice a day, and have it done by an actual person. Would make it better, imo...

 

But yeah, I'm not expecting much and definitely not staying up for it. If I wake up with snow on the ground, great. 

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URGENT - WINTER WEATHER MESSAGE
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE BALTIMORE MD/WASHINGTON DC
1210 PM EST MON FEB 8 2016


MDZ004>006-011-014-503-505>508-090115-
/O.UPG.KLWX.WS.A.0002.160209T0500Z-160210T1100Z/
/O.NEW.KLWX.WS.W.0002.160209T0300Z-160210T1100Z/
FREDERICK MD-CARROLL-NORTHERN BALTIMORE-SOUTHERN BALTIMORE-
ANNE ARUNDEL-NORTHWEST MONTGOMERY-NORTHWEST HOWARD-
CENTRAL AND SOUTHEAST HOWARD-NORTHWEST HARFORD-SOUTHEAST HARFORD-
1210 PM EST MON FEB 8 2016

...WINTER STORM WARNING IN EFFECT FROM 10 PM THIS EVENING TO 6 AM
EST WEDNESDAY...

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN BALTIMORE MD/WASHINGTON HAS
ISSUED A WINTER STORM WARNING FOR SNOW...WHICH IS IN EFFECT FROM
10 PM THIS EVENING TO 6 AM EST WEDNESDAY. THE WINTER STORM WATCH
IS NO LONGER IN EFFECT.

* PRECIPITATION TYPE...SNOW

* ACCUMULATIONS...SNOW ACCUMULATION OF 4 TO 8 INCHES...WITH
  LOCALLY HIGHER AMOUNTS POSSIBLE.

* TIMING...PRECIPITATION WILL BEGIN THIS EVENING INITIALLY AS A
  RAIN AND SNOW MIX. THE PRECIPITATION WILL TRANSITION TO ALL SNOW
  BY MIDNIGHT AND LAST THROUGH TUESDAY NIGHT...WITH PERIODS OF
  HEAVY SNOW DURING THIS TIME.

* IMPACTS...ROADS WILL BECOME SNOW COVERED...RESULTING IN
  HAZARDOUS TRAVEL CONDITIONS.

* WINDS...NORTH 5 TO 10 MPH.

* TEMPERATURES...IN THE LOWER 30S.
Uh-huh...I knew they were gonna back off of that 6-9 inches in the previous watch. That was just crazy, lol
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