ravensrule Posted 18 hours ago Share Posted 18 hours ago 58 minutes ago, nj2va said: Excellent, if true. Come on, don’t you want to see people die in a tornado. This place cracks me up. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDphotog Posted 18 hours ago Share Posted 18 hours ago 2 minutes ago, wasnow215 said: Considering line doesn't come through til close to 8 that's plenty of time for more destabilization. The 9-10am thing is an opinion only. Pretty big difference in the big models (NAM, Euro) and the HRRR. HRRR has it much earlier in the afternoon for the main line of storms. 2 - 5pm for most of the area. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SolidIcewx Posted 18 hours ago Share Posted 18 hours ago 24 minutes ago, hstorm said: I don’t get why anyone roots for severe storms. Especially in populated areas. There are real people with real homes whose lives could be upended. My hope is for a complete bust. Obviously no one wants anyone hurt or damage to the things we worked hard for such as home and vehicles. Opinion varies widely. I know in my case i work Utility and welcome some overtime as long as there are not any injuries. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasnow215 Posted 18 hours ago Share Posted 18 hours ago 1 minute ago, MDphotog said: Pretty big difference in the big models (NAM, Euro) and the HRRR. HRRR has it much earlier in the afternoon for the main line of storms. 2 - 5pm for most of the area. Not a big HRRR "fan" haha. Not sure of exact verification scores but I know they're not real good 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomeguyfromTakomaPark Posted 18 hours ago Share Posted 18 hours ago Let’s keep the ethics debates in banter. We know severe weenies will be rooting for an F5 even as it barrels towards their house and launches them into the stratosphere. 1 7 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2O Posted 18 hours ago Share Posted 18 hours ago There are already a number of TORs spinning up down south and you can’t tell me they needed a lot of sun at 8am. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aldie 22 Posted 18 hours ago Share Posted 18 hours ago 24 minutes ago, WxUSAF said: If for no other reason, I hope it’s not a total bust because schools and businesses are so reactive to the last event that I don’t want them to overcorrect the wrong way after all these early dismissals and closings. Then we get a slight risk in May and nobody does anything and there’s some bad results. My wife had to go to Hanover MD this morning for Maryland department of emergency management activating from 10 - 10 today. She has to sit in a building with a bunch of emergency management people all day waiting for something to happen,she took a cot in case she has to spend the night there, i'm hoping she gets to come home early otherwise it's Popeyes for dinner. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baldereagle Posted 18 hours ago Share Posted 18 hours ago 25 minutes ago, Kmlwx said: Every year we have the ethics debate. I can't speak for others - but I am not "rooting for severe storms" in the damage sense. I like interesting weather - and I/we/us have no control over it. If it's going to be a substantial severe day, I am going to track it with enthusiasm. Nothing we say or do is going to change the outcome. Consider this - firefighters on a quiet shift will welcome a call coming in... The firemen I have known would never say anything like that. Not faulting your enthusiasm but you must not know any actual firefighters. I don’t believe they generally engage in thoughtless weenie wishing for fires to start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowenOutThere Posted 18 hours ago Share Posted 18 hours ago 6 minutes ago, H2O said: There are already a number of TORs spinning up down south and you can’t tell me they needed a lot of sun at 8am. Feels like the floor of today (assuming we get socked in with crapvection) still feels significant. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmlwx Posted 18 hours ago Author Share Posted 18 hours ago 1 minute ago, baldereagle said: The firemen I have known would never say anything like that. Not faulting your enthusiasm but you must not know any actual firefighters. I don’t believe they generally engage in thoughtless weenie wishing for fires to start. I might have been misunderstood - but the firefighters I know yes, do not WISH for people's homes to catch fire - but on a dead quiet shift absolutely 100% get excited when a call comes in. I thought it was a good parallel because of course they are not hoping for somebody's livelihood to be destroyed or for lives to be lost...but if a fire were to break out - they want to be the ones responding. We have no control over the weather. Regardless - we can take the weather ethics debate to banter - I am 100% sure that zero people here are 'wishing' for people's homes to be destroyed is my point. But we are weather enthusiasts - we have NO CONTROL over it - we are going to track interesting weather with fascination and interest. It doesn't mean we are hoping for dead people. 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
konksw Posted 18 hours ago Share Posted 18 hours ago Snowstorms are deadly as well. Especially blizzards! Anyway it’s possible to be excited for interesting weather and hope everyone is safe at the same time. Otherwise might as well just move to San Diego. 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted 18 hours ago Share Posted 18 hours ago Still a hold with everything on the 1300z SPC OTLK... 15 tor/5 hail/ 60 wind 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasnow215 Posted 18 hours ago Share Posted 18 hours ago There are injuries, sadly sometimes deaths, and lots of property damage in all kinds of extreme weather. Including winter storms. Snowcrete had THOUSANDS of slip injuries enough to go to ER, just in RVA alone. Nobody "wants" any of that. So let's stop with the halo stuff and just talk about possible scenarios. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted 18 hours ago Share Posted 18 hours ago Day 1 Convective Outlook NWS Storm Prediction Center Norman OK 0732 AM CDT Mon Mar 16 2026 Valid 161300Z - 171200Z ...THERE IS A MODERATE RISK OF SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS TODAY ACROSS PARTS OF CENTRAL MARYLAND...MUCH OF CENTRAL AND EASTERN VIRGINIA...CENTRAL NORTH CAROLINA AND ADJACENT PORTIONS OF SOUTH CAROLINA...... ...SUMMARY... Fast moving thunderstorms may become widespread and accompanied by the risk for damaging wind gusts and a few tornadoes across the Mid Atlantic today. There is potential that a couple of storms could become capable of producing strong and long track tornadoes. ...Southeast States... An intense upper trough continues to deepen over the Mid MS Valley, with its associated surface cold front surging eastward across the Appalachians and into the Carolinas/Mid-Atlantic. An active line of thunderstorms is accompanying the front from GA into western SC/NC/VA. Low-level winds are very strong along and ahead of these storms, encouraging the risk of numerous severe wind gusts and embedded QLCS tornadoes along the line. Clusters of thunderstorms have been developing ahead of the line as well, in a moist and strongly sheared environment. These storms will also pose a severe/tornado risk through the day as the primary large-scale ascent arrives. ...Mid Atlantic States into NY... Farther north, low-level moisture is a little more limited and CAPE values will be slightly lower. Nevertheless, intense low and mid level wind fields will be present across this region as the cold front approaches from the west. Thunderstorms are expected to strengthen through the late morning across west-central VA into central NY/PA and spread eastward to the coast by early evening. Forecast soundings across this area show very large low-level shear values that will favor the risk of widespread damaging winds and several tornadoes. Strong tornadoes will be possible - especially from MD southward where the greatest low-level moisture will be present. In the wake of the main convection, secondary cyclogenesis is forecast to occur late this afternoon along the cold front over VA/MD. The initial storms will remove most of the low-level moisture/instability, but the extreme intensity of the low-level winds fields and large-scale forcing could result in a secondary risk of damaging winds from low-topped showers and thunderstorms after dark. This threat could spread northeastward into eastern PA/NJ and perhaps southern New England. ..Hart/Lyons.. 03/16/2026 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSSN+ Posted 18 hours ago Share Posted 18 hours ago First watch coming just to the sw 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted 18 hours ago Share Posted 18 hours ago Tornado Watch coming soon for C VA into C NC 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ephesians2 Posted 18 hours ago Share Posted 18 hours ago About to get hit by this. Will report back. Some peeks of sun this morning. There is also clearly a good deal of wind shear. The breaks in the clouds reveal different layers moving in different directions. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dailylurker Posted 18 hours ago Share Posted 18 hours ago 37 minutes ago, Kmlwx said: Every year we have the ethics debate. I can't speak for others - but I am not "rooting for severe storms" in the damage sense. I like interesting weather - and I/we/us have no control over it. If it's going to be a substantial severe day, I am going to track it with enthusiasm. Nothing we say or do is going to change the outcome. Consider this - firefighters on a quiet shift will welcome a call coming in... I'm hoping my truck gets picked up a little bit and humbles the crap out of me while I'm watching an EF3 ripping across an open field on the eastern shore or across the bay. Who's rooting for an urban nightmare storm? I drove down to LA Plata MD after the EF5 (Yes it was 100% an EF5.) I saw things I'd never imagined wind could do. I talked to a girl that was in shock the following day. She had a blank stare on her face and wouldn't talk. Her father said she was in shock and didn't know what happened. They brought her back to the taco bell she was working at when the monster struck. The entire place was gone except one little wall where the bar stools were bolted to the foundation. The tornado actually missed the building by 50 yards. It ripped the concrete off the ground and dug into the top soil where the direct patch was. I think the girls father told me that his daughter's co working was still missing at the time. (Later found dead.) So.. that said. It was an absolutely beautiful tornado. I wish I was able to have seen it from a safe distance. I'd never wish for what happend to that young lady from the taco bell. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted 18 hours ago Share Posted 18 hours ago 3 minutes ago, yoda said: Tornado Watch coming soon for C VA into C NC https://www.spc.noaa.gov/products/md/md0268.html Mesoscale Discussion 0268 NWS Storm Prediction Center Norman OK 0740 AM CDT Mon Mar 16 2026 Areas affected...Parts of central Virginia into central North Carolina Concerning...Severe potential...Watch likely Valid 161240Z - 161445Z Probability of Watch Issuance...80 percent SUMMARY...The potential for damaging wind gusts and tornadoes will gradually increase into parts of central North Carolina and Virginia through the morning into this afternoon. A watch issuance is likely. DISCUSSION...A remnant QLCS is emerging east of the Appalachians, where it is showing some early signs of re-intensification. Farther east, a disorganized band of thunderstorms is also evolving over parts of western VA into NC. While overall convective evolution is not clear, these storms will continue spreading eastward into a destabilizing air mass (around 500-1000 J/kg MLCAPE). Despite the somewhat limited buoyancy, strong low/deep-layer shear characterized by clockwise-curved low-level hodographs (see GSO 12Z sounding) will favor a mix of organized line segments and supercells, with a risk of damaging wind gusts and a few tornadoes (some potentially strong). A watch issuance is likely for this activity. ..Weinman/Hart.. 03/16/2026 ...Please see www.spc.noaa.gov for graphic product... ATTN...WFO...AKQ...LWX...RAH...ILM...RNK...CAE...GSP... LAT...LON 35018062 36058067 37938001 38327941 38387851 38157795 37767769 37037785 35917834 35137889 34707944 34798025 35018062 MOST PROBABLE PEAK TORNADO INTENSITY...100-130 MPH MOST PROBABLE PEAK WIND GUST...65-80 MPH MOST PROBABLE PEAK HAIL SIZE...UP TO 1.25 IN 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eskimo Joe Posted 18 hours ago Share Posted 18 hours ago the warm air is definitely surging into the region. Nanjemoy mesonet site already up to 67 degrees. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeesburgWx Posted 18 hours ago Share Posted 18 hours ago Sun poking through now in tysons 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted 18 hours ago Share Posted 18 hours ago Pretty wild environment as expected and there is already decent instability in place and satellite suggests that there will be at least partial breaks to allow for additional destabilization. What's really eye popping to me right now is 200-300 m2/s2 of effective storm-relative helicity and you have ~20 knots of sfc-2km winds which are nearly due easterly (inflow winds). The timing of the forcing out west looks more than favorable too. Mesoanalysis (using RAP background) gets 3km CAPE values >100 J/KG later this morning and early afternoon...pretty eye opening given the shear magnitudes. 4 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted 18 hours ago Share Posted 18 hours ago Tornado Watch up for the above MCD area... isolated significant gusts to 85mph in the watch 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowenOutThere Posted 18 hours ago Share Posted 18 hours ago Cod nexrad already has some sun filtering through past the line of storms near Roanoke. Wonder if they’re actually working to mix out the low level clouds. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormtracker Posted 18 hours ago Share Posted 18 hours ago 1 hour ago, WxUSAF said: If for no other reason, I hope it’s not a total bust because schools and businesses are so reactive to the last event that I don’t want them to overcorrect the wrong way after all these early dismissals and closings. Then we get a slight risk in May and nobody does anything and there’s some bad results. This. It’s my main worry believe it or not. I’m not a met, but I get super defensive when the public start shitting on yall and my God, the whining if this doesn’t happen will be insufferable. 2 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
somecallmetim Posted 18 hours ago Share Posted 18 hours ago 30 minutes ago, aldie 22 said: otherwise it's Popeyes for dinner. Whereas I might view this as an upside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted 18 hours ago Share Posted 18 hours ago No LWX CWA counties in the newly issued Tornado Watch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted 18 hours ago Share Posted 18 hours ago URGENT - IMMEDIATE BROADCAST REQUESTED Tornado Watch Number 66 NWS Storm Prediction Center Norman OK 855 AM EDT Mon Mar 16 2026 The NWS Storm Prediction Center has issued a * Tornado Watch for portions of Central North Carolina Central Virginia * Effective this Monday morning and afternoon from 855 AM until 200 PM EDT. * Primary threats include... Several tornadoes and a couple intense tornadoes likely Widespread damaging winds expected with isolated significant gusts to 85 mph likely Isolated large hail events to 1 inch in diameter possible SUMMARY...A fast-moving line of severe thunderstorms will sweep across the watch area through the morning hours, posing a risk of widespread damaging wind gusts and a few tornadoes. Strong tornadoes are possible. The tornado watch area is approximately along and 60 statute miles east and west of a line from 50 miles east northeast of White Sulphur Springs WV to 35 miles south southwest of Southern Pines NC. For a complete depiction of the watch see the associated watch outline update (WOUS64 KWNS WOU6). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Chill Posted 18 hours ago Share Posted 18 hours ago 13 minutes ago, Ephesians2 said: About to get hit by this. Will report back. Some peeks of sun this morning. There is also clearly a good deal of wind shear. The breaks in the clouds reveal different layers moving in different directions. It's pretty nasty buy but not anything crazy. Biggest gusts during torrential rain and some decent CG. Power is still on lol 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted 18 hours ago Share Posted 18 hours ago https://www.spc.noaa.gov/products/watch/ww0066.html 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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