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2026 Mid-Atlantic Severe Storm General Discussion


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1 minute ago, Kmlwx said:

I can't imagine their page is hosted onsite - but I may be wrong. Probably just coincidental. 

I guess so... just getting a lot of internal service errors no matter where I go on the NWS website past 15 minutes 

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3 minutes ago, mappy said:

Got home from dance taxiing before the storm 

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Sorta weird how these storms didn’t have the sky filling effect they sometimes do. Had a good shelf and then some smooth bands but didn’t build up as a thunderhead and barely had cirrus. Made me seem insane when I kept telling my coaches a storm was coming in. Any met want to take a stab at why these looked atypical?

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Sorta weird how these storms didn’t have the sky filling effect they sometimes do. Had a good shelf and then some smooth bands but didn’t build up as a thunderhead and barely had cirrus. Made me seem insane when I kept telling my coaches a storm was coming in. Any met want to take a stab at why these looked atypical?

Had a similar thought looking at them approaching.
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33 minutes ago, Kmlwx said:

Any reason that it seems to be more prominent this season than prior ones? Or is that just recency bias? 

It's always been an issue, but it seems when models get upgraded to more vertical levels it's more of an issue.

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21 minutes ago, Eskimo Joe said:

Agree 9/10 times. IMO, this is the 1 out of 10 times I'll differ given the numerous 250 Anniversary event from Baltimore to DC. In a situation like this, it's just easier to slap down a big polygon and say "it's coming everyone".

I get the big metro area part, but look at this warning in NY/PA. Larger than the MD one, and much more rural.

Not saying one should treat a more populated area differently than a less populated area, or an area w/ more outdoor events than another.  Ethically, that is wrong as all people and infrastructure are important, but it does not seem always consistent w/ watches/warnings. 

It's no secret, as one example, that there is a bulls-eye of svr tstm watches centered over the DCA-BWI area and less in surrounding areas.  It's not simply due to climo of the area.  That suggests it is not done from an objective forecast science standpoint.  It's no different looking at tornado warnings in various CWAs, and some have *way* more warnings than the adjacent ones, and again, that's not b/c of sudden difference in supercell/tornado climo.

And this all leads back to public apathy caused by too many or excessive warnings.  More is not always better.  There comes a point of diminishing returns.
 

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40 minutes ago, SnowenOutThere said:

Sorta weird how these storms didn’t have the sky filling effect they sometimes do. Had a good shelf and then some smooth bands but didn’t build up as a thunderhead and barely had cirrus. Made me seem insane when I kept telling my coaches a storm was coming in. Any met want to take a stab at why these looked atypical?

Yeah these storms reminded me of a lower CAPE day but with steep LLLRs still allowing for big wind. 

Kind of similar to June 26, 2024 with a line of impressive wind producing storms with limited lightning.

Hopefully LWX was able to launch the 00z sounding before the storms rolled through. The sounding would probably show some clues as we did have large CAPE and decent MLLRs (6.5+C) during the day.

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17 minutes ago, George BM said:

Yeah these storms reminded me of a lower CAPE day but with steep LLLRs still allowing for big wind. 

Kind of similar to June 26, 2024 with a line of impressive wind producing storms with limited lightning.

Hopefully LWX was able to launch the 00z sounding before the storms rolled through. The sounding would probably show some clues as we did have large CAPE and decent MLLRs (6.5+C) during the day.

The lack of lightning does indicate how these storms were relatively low topped. Just seems odd as forecasted soundings showed a high enough EL point and we had big CAPE throughout the layer. I’m sure something caused it though. 

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3 minutes ago, SnowenOutThere said:

The lack of lightning does indicate how these storms were relatively low topped. Just seems odd as forecasted soundings showed a high enough EL point and we had big CAPE throughout the layer. I’m sure something caused it though. 

Sounding is in.

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