December 2025 OBS and Discussion

[MJO812]

Coldest night of the season so far. 29 here.

[WeatherGeek2025]

25 here brisk night

[Krs4Lfe]

Well I guess the present thinking is that we’re due for snow here in the NYC metro. We’ve had snow just to our north, just to our west (today and a few days ago) and now to our south for DC and people further south. At some point I’m assuming we’ll get on board just to fill in the map lol. Hopefully soon. It’s truly looking like this is the coldest December since 2013. In terms of the snow department; who knows? But we will have enough cold. Let’s hope we have enough snow as well 

[dmillz25]

Down to 26 here

[the_other_guy]

Cold Nov to Cold Dec…enjoy it guys

[CPcantmeasuresnow]

7 hours ago, Dark Star said:

But Bellayre is certainly not NYC metro...

Certainly not. It's as NYC metro as LBI NJ. Neither place would I call NYC metro.

Geographically Bellayre is SENY. It's upstate to the 85% of the population that lives south of it. It's downstate to the 85% of the land area of NY that lies at a latitude above it. 

[Snowlover11]

20F, feels like 9F.

[psv88]

25. 

[MJO812]

22 minutes ago, psv88 said:

25. 

Same

[JerseyWx]

Looks like low teens are easy here tonight, single digits on Monday night...also looks like it won't hit 30 tomorrow or Monday.

We're not even close to peak snow climo, I think some have expectations way too high this time of year.  Just be happy it feels like winter...

[RU848789]

1 hour ago, CPcantmeasuresnow said:

Certainly not. It's as NYC metro as LBI NJ. Neither place would I call NYC metro.

Geographically Bellayre is SENY. It's upstate to the 85% of the population that lives south of it. It's downstate to the 85% of the land area of NY that lies at a latitude above it. 

Well, it is in Ulster County, which is part of the NYC DMA, as is LBI, in Ocean County, so if one uses the NYC DMA it's part of NYC Metro.  Not everyone uses the DMA, of course.  It's also closer to Central Park than the east end of LI, which I think everyone would consider part of NYC Metro.  

 

[MJO812]

The models keep unleashing very cold air. Now just need snow.

[NEG NAO]

2 hours ago, MJO812 said:

The models keep unleashing very cold air. Now just need snow.

Would rather have snow the last week of December rather then the first week - many times when it has snowed early in the month it warms up towards the end of the month and its mild with no snow on the ground Christmas week .........last year was considered to be a "White Christmas" believe it or not with the little snow that was on the ground in most areas of the immediate metro...........This year the falling SOI and the fading LaNina supported by MJO in phase 8 should activate the southern jet BUT all the players on the field have to align just right to produce a snowstorm here........also another Strat warming event is going to unfold the second half of the month so this pattern should extend well into January.............

[SnoSki14]

2 hours ago, MJO812 said:

The models keep unleashing very cold air. Now just need snow.

Same ole Great lakes tracks. It's cold/dry to warm/wet and back to cold dry. 

Horrible pattern for snow here. Maybe in January when storm track drops south we'll get something but this is a crappy pattern. 

Time to move to the lakes, tons of lake effect snows 

[sussexcountyobs]

Currently down to 10

[donsutherland1]

Some 6 am temperatures:

Albany: 2° (tied record set in 1886 and tied in 1926 and 1989)
Binghamton: 5° (tied record set in 1971 and tied in 1989)
New York City-LaGuardia Airport: 20° (old record: 21°, 1942)
White Plains: 14° (tied record set in 1966)

Albany has its coldest temperature so early in the season since 1989.

[North and West]

Same ole Great lakes tracks. It's cold/dry to warm/wet and back to cold dry. 
Horrible pattern for snow here. Maybe in January when storm track drops south we'll get something but this is a crappy pattern. 
Time to move to the lakes, tons of lake effect snows 

The economy there has been awful for generations.


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[donsutherland1]

JFK Airport has now reached 20°. That ties the daily record that was set in 1966.

[jm1220]

4 hours ago, SnoSki14 said:

Same ole Great lakes tracks. It's cold/dry to warm/wet and back to cold dry. 

Horrible pattern for snow here. Maybe in January when storm track drops south we'll get something but this is a crappy pattern. 

Time to move to the lakes, tons of lake effect snows 

Or Richmond. Seems to snow plenty there these days with these suppressed crap storms. 

First teens-currently 17 here.  

[wdrag]

7 hours ago, RU848789 said:

Well, it is in Ulster County, which is part of the NYC DMA, as is LBI, in Ocean County, so if one uses the NYC DMA it's part of NYC Metro.  Not everyone uses the DMA, of course.  It's also closer to Central Park than the east end of LI, which I think everyone would consider part of NYC Metro.  

 

Presume I can use this map describing the extent of the NYC subforum> Please confirm. Thank you. 

[WestBabylonWeather]

19 in western Suffolk 

[wdrag]

Heads up early Saturday: NO thread at this time but there could be a frozen-freezing trace to 1/4" snow-sleet-freezing rain event  along I95 tomorrow morning between roughly 2A-8A (rain Long Island). Not threading but multiple models trying for this including the late on board EC. It's minor but worthy of monitoring and I could see this eventually needing a short fuse SPS, or even an advisory.  These are the unexpected travel issues, especially after an afternoon of temps barely above freezing. 

[gravitylover]

8° 

[EastonSN+]

Nice little snow event in Virginia and the Delmarva.

[EastonSN+]

51 minutes ago, donsutherland1 said:

Some 6 am temperatures:

Albany: 2° (tied record set in 1886 and tied in 1926 and 1989)
Binghamton: 5° (tied record set in 1971 and tied in 1989)
New York City-LaGuardia Airport: 20° (old record: 21°, 1942)
White Plains: 14° (tied record set in 1966)

Albany has its coldest temperature so early in the season since 1989.

Even though I am not a fan of the cold, it was kind of nice to step out there.

Was looking at 1989 (Albany and Binghamton records), no wonder that was so cold....

[bluewave]

Earliest 20° reading in NYC since the 2007-2008 La Niña. But the snowfall outcome was lower this time around. We finally got some cold into Eastern Canada which has been lacking in recent years.

Dec 5, 6:51 am

21

2

43

11

ENE

9

10.00

CLR

1027.20

30.18

30.35

24

20

Climatological Data for NY CITY CENTRAL PARK, NY - December 2007
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2007-12-01	38	25	31.5	-11.7	33	0	0.00	0.0	0
2007-12-02	36	20	28.0	-14.9	37	0	0.33	1.4	0
2007-12-03	47	32	39.5	-3.1	25	0	0.31	T	0
2007-12-04	34	28	31.0	-11.3	34	0	0.00	0.0	0
2007-12-05	33	28	30.5	-11.5	34	0	0.02	0.3	0
2007-12-06	33	21	27.0	-14.7	38	0	0.00	0.0	T
2007-12-07	35	28	31.5	-9.9	33	0	T	T	0

 

 

[CPcantmeasuresnow]

8° and snow cover, my kind of December.

[donsutherland1]

The temperature fell to 0F (-17.8C) in Albany. That broke the daily record of 2F (-16.7C) that was set in 1886 and tied in 1926 and 1989. It is also Albany's coldest temperature so early in the season since December 3, 1976 when the mercury hit -1F (-18.3C). 

[Snowlover11]

13F for the low, up to a sweltering 14F.

[bluewave]

20 hours ago, NorthShoreWx said:

 100%

I thought the winters sucked because we never got snow days (except for 1978) and precious few big snows, but I think we had more days with snow on the ground, the ponds were safe for skating, etc.  Even with changeovers, more of them had snow remaining after it refroze than has been the case this century.  Not to say that there haven't always been some epic washouts,  but I remember some of those genuinely sucky winters as being more wintry,

Yeah, the number of 1” snowcover days at ISP the last 7 seasons has been roughly half that of the colder and snowier 70s and 80s at 11 days vs 21 days.
 

Monthly Number of Days Snow Depth >= 1 for ISLIP-LI MACARTHUR AP, NY
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Mean	0	0	2	3	6	0	0	11
2024-2025	0	0	1	7	5	0	0	13
2023-2024	0	0	0	5	6	0	0	11
2022-2023	0	0	0	0	1	1	0	2
2021-2022	0	0	0	6	9	0	0	15
2020-2021	0	0	7	0	23	0	0	30
2019-2020	0	0	3	0	0	0	0	3
2018-2019	0	0	0	1	1	2	0	4

 

Monthly Number of Days Snow Depth >= 1 for ISLIP-LI MACARTHUR AP, NY
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Mean	0	0	2	10	6	2	0	21
1988-1989	0	0	7	2	3	3	0	15
1987-1988	0	1	3	15	0	2	0	21
1986-1987	0	0	1	12	10	1	0	24
1985-1986	0	0	3	4	13	0	0	20
1984-1985	0	0	1	13	10	0	0	24
1983-1984	0	0	1	15	0	6	0	22
1982-1983	0	0	4	3	8	0	1	16
1981-1982	0	0	0	19	0	0	4	23
1980-1981	0	0	1	22	0	2	0	25
1979-1980	0	0	1	3	1	1	0	6
1978-1979	0	0	0	3	14	0	0	17
1977-1978	0	0	0	13	22	18	0	53
1976-1977	0	0	6	23	7	0	0	36
1975-1976	0	0	5	8	7	2	0	22
1974-1975	0	0	0	1	5	1	0	7
1973-1974	0	0	0	14	10	1	0	25
1972-1973	0	0	0	0	2	0	0	2
1971-1972	0	0	0	3	8	1	0	12
1970-1971	0	0	5	11	1	0	1	18
1969-1970	0	0	7	19	6	2	0	34