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July 2025 Obs/Disco ... possible historic month for heat


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3 minutes ago, weatherwiz said:

The extended is slightly above-average and probably some days well above average as we would likely get pieces of max 850 temps shunted our way at times. 

Goodluck maybe a couple  hot days but we're pretty much average after next week maybe even slightly below for a bit in my opinion

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8 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said:

You made identical posts in June about Julorch 

I literally said I was wrong and said it was still coming :lol: Midwest and west will be best after next week.. remember how you said no 40s anywhere and a top 5 Summer with no cool shots in sight?

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It's an overall above-average pattern with brief cool shots mixed in which are the product of a post FROPA airmass but within 2-3 days of the FROPA any troughing flattens out and we begin building heights. The southern ridge has been flexing west/east for the last month-plus...deviations west/east in the ridge axis doesn't quantify as a pattern change. It's just like today/tomorrow...these are the product of ripping a decent FROPA through and is something which should be more common for us given our latitude. This isn't a "broken back" its our climatology. 

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8 minutes ago, weatherwiz said:

It's an overall above-average pattern with brief cool shots mixed in which are the product of a post FROPA airmass but within 2-3 days of the FROPA any troughing flattens out and we begin building heights. The southern ridge has been flexing west/east for the last month-plus...deviations west/east in the ridge axis doesn't quantify as a pattern change. It's just like today/tomorrow...these are the product of ripping a decent FROPA through and is something which should be more common for us given our latitude. This isn't a "broken back" its our climatology. 

"The southern ridge has been flexing west/east for the last month-plus...deviations west/east in the ridge axis doesn't quantify as a pattern change"

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A wild card too late next week and into the first week of August is the western Atlantic ridge. There is a possibility the degree of troughing across the East is overdone as well, especially if there is a greater connection of the southern ridge and WAR. Now, we'll probably see some sort of trough because there will be a weakness in the ridge and there will be shortwaves/developing FROPAs. But IMO, we are far more likely to see above average and well above at times versus anything else (again, outside for a day or two behind a FROPA). 

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46 minutes ago, weatherwiz said:

A wild card too late next week and into the first week of August is the western Atlantic ridge. There is a possibility the degree of troughing across the East is overdone as well, especially if there is a greater connection of the southern ridge and WAR. Now, we'll probably see some sort of trough because there will be a weakness in the ridge and there will be shortwaves/developing FROPAs. But IMO, we are far more likely to see above average and well above at times versus anything else (again, outside for a day or two behind a FROPA). 

There's blocking at higher latitudes over the western Aleutian arch and also up over the western Beaufort Sea, but that's far away. It is unclear in summer wave scaling if that would be much of an exertion on the circulation mode over eastern N/A's mid latitudes ...

Meanwhile, the NAO is rising positive - though telecon correlation in summer gets rather vague.  Right now the EPO and PNA are flatlining neutral, making any signal utterly not there either way. I sense these operational runs - which are exhibiting typical summer bad continuity out in time - are about as useful as shitty toilet paper.  Just go back two runs in the GFS and it's different hemisphere.

As we've noted many times in the past ... these deep vortices/SPV's in the late mid ranges tend to de-amplify in time.  True in winter or summer.

I don't know, it seems to me we've been down this end summer in the middle of summer routine before, and routinely these haven't occurred.  The onus is on one of those to actually verify.  

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2 minutes ago, Typhoon Tip said:

There's blocking at higher latitudes over the western Aleutian arch and also up over the western Beaufort Sea, but that's far away. It is unclear in summer wave scaling if that would be much of an exertion on the circulation mode over eastern N/A's mid latitudes ...

Meanwhile, the NAO is rising positive - though telecon correlation in summer gets rather vague.  Right now the EPO and PNA are flatlining neutral, making any signal utterly not there either way. I sense these operational runs - which are exhibiting typical summer bad continuity out in time - are about as useful as shitty toilet paper.  Just go back two runs in the GFS and it's different hemisphere.

As we've noted many times in the past ... these deep vortices/SPV's in the late mid ranges tend to de-amplify in time.  True in winter or summer.

I don't know, it seems to me we've been down this end summer in the middle of summer routine before, and routinely these haven't occurred.  The onus is on one of those to actually verify.  

I would expect that this deep into summer the EPO and especially the PNA would have minimal, if any, influence on the pattern at all. the other thing I think to keep in mind too (and this fits in with your bolded) is with this pattern upcoming, it is likely to be quite convectively active across the International border with potential for numerous MCSs and squall lines. Given we're downstream of this, the impacts (or how the models think downstream will behave) are going to be more pronounced over our region. 

I mean at some point we are going to start to see noticeable changes occur as we continue approaching the equinox, but we are a good 4 weeks or so before we start to see these changes take place. 

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