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32 minutes ago, winterwx21 said:

It did touch 80 very briefly here this afternoon when the sun came out, but then dropped back to the mid 70s quickly due to the east wind. 73 right now. That east wind felt very refreshing when I was out running. 

Yeah the sunny skies didn't last long. Feels refreshing now at 71

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My 5th floor apartment in Douglaston facing west with open sky got so hot with the westward facing wall of the building and now an easterly wind I am running my a/c full blast to try to fully get the heat out. I ran it all night last night and probably will need to run it over night another night to finally get it comfortably cool. Then it warms up with plenty of humidity on Saturday. Unless we sneak a 90 in on Saturday, Sunday, Monday or Tuesday (and it's unlikely since winds will be out of the s-sw) I do not think we see another 90+ day in NYC until the second or more likely the third week of July.

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Continuation of the same pattern into late June. Another weekend with chances for rain but no washout. Saturday looks like the best chance for scattered convection. Drier on Sunday. Then mid 90s on Monday just inland from sea breeze front west of NYC. 

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16 hours ago, LibertyBell said:

No urban heat island in 1948..... 

Yeah in 1948, concrete and asphalt wasn’t invented yet and NYC was nothing but rounded up prairie schooner wagons and teepees sprawled across all the open fields…c’mon man!

2 hours ago, nycwinter said:

62 at almost 5:00 am i could actually go out and wear a hoodie this morning..

61 here this morning with .05 overnight, cooler than recent mornings. I love me some hoodie season…..this ain’t it. 

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15 hours ago, LibertyBell said:

People need to stop creating concrete jungles, not only is it cooler outside of the city, it's also less polluted and much easier to sleep at night and breathe clean air with far lower rates of asthma.

So we should abandon cities and destroy rural areas and turn them into endless suburbs. 
The reality from the perspective of the planet is the EXACT OPPOSITE. We want more people in tightly packed cities and less McMansions on quarter acre lots. Upstate NY reforesting over the last century is a great example of what we want to see. 

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1 minute ago, LongBeachSurfFreak said:

So we should abandon cities and destroy rural areas and turn them into endless suburbs. 
The reality from the perspective of the planet is the EXACT OPPOSITE. We want more people in tightly packed cities and less McMansions on quarter acre lots. Upstate NY reforesting over the last century is a great example of what we want to see. 

We need less buildings  like upstate NY.

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6 minutes ago, LongBeachSurfFreak said:

So we should abandon cities and destroy rural areas and turn them into endless suburbs. 
The reality from the perspective of the planet is the EXACT OPPOSITE. We want more people in tightly packed cities and less McMansions on quarter acre lots. Upstate NY reforesting over the last century is a great example of what we want to see. 

What sucks is living on top each other is not healthy. People underestimate the psychological damage constant noise does to a human for example. 

Air pollution will be worse no matter how "clean" a city gets compared to suburbs/rural. 

For people, I think overall it's much better to live on that half acre lot than living like an ant colony. 

For the planet obviously it's better if people concentrated in as few urban centers as possible and left everything around alone. 

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39 minutes ago, LongBeachSurfFreak said:

So we should abandon cities and destroy rural areas and turn them into endless suburbs. 
The reality from the perspective of the planet is the EXACT OPPOSITE. We want more people in tightly packed cities and less McMansions on quarter acre lots. Upstate NY reforesting over the last century is a great example of what we want to see. 

 

37 minutes ago, MJO812 said:

We need less buildings  like upstate NY.

 

19 minutes ago, Sundog said:

What sucks is living on top each other is not healthy. People underestimate the psychological damage constant noise does to a human for example. 

Air pollution will be worse no matter how "clean" a city gets compared to suburbs/rural. 

For people, I think overall it's much better to live on that half acre lot than living like an ant colony. 

For the planet obviously it's better if people concentrated in as few urban centers as possible and left everything around alone. 

Perhaps we can have both? …… as always …..

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49 minutes ago, MJO812 said:

We need less buildings  like upstate NY.

Upstate NY is turning into one of the most in demand real estate markets as we may be seeing the beginning of a reverse migration process.

 

 

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67 / 58 clouds .  24 hours remaining in the June gloom / onshore flow.   Flow comes around Sw -  tomorrow.   Much warmer. Sat - Mon and with enough sun the hotter spots get to 90 or above, especially Monday with another area of 850 MB temps >18c crossing through.  Storms bring locally > 1 inch and perhaps up to 2 inches focus later tonight, Sunday night and Tuesday afternoon.  Beyond there the drier / warm 3rd and 4th.  The 5/6 weekend is a mix pending.  Beyond there into the week of the 8th hotter.

 

6/27 : Cool / onshore showers
6/28 - 7/2 :  Warm - hot / humid,  storms (focus Fri PM, Sun PM, Tue PM) 1-2 inches locally
7/3 - 7/4  : Warm / Dry fourth
7/5 - 7/7 : could be wetter / humid
7/8 - beyond :  turning hotter

 

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2 hours ago, bluewave said:

Continuation of the same pattern into late June. Another weekend with chances for rain but no washout. Saturday looks like the best chance for scattered convection. Drier on Sunday. Then mid 90s on Monday just inland from sea breeze front west of NYC. 

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Looks like a general steam bath pattern. 92/75 is no fun here either. 

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23 minutes ago, rclab said:

 

 

Perhaps we can have both? …… as always …..

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Your article from which these pics came from has a line that supports my position:

"In Wales, a 10-year study looking at the presence of anxiety and depression in 2.3 million medical records, found that the greenest home surroundings were associated with 40% less anxiety and depression than those living in the least green areas." 

We aren't meant to live piled up on top of one another. 

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Records:
 

Highs:

EWR: 101 (1966)
NYC: 101 (1966)
LGA: 97 (2003)
JFK: 98 (1963)


Lows:

EWR: 52 (1940)
NYC: 55 (1940)
LGA: 56 (1972)
JFK: 54 (1965)

HIstorical:

 

 

 

1881: Intense downpour of 2.34 inches in Washington, DC. was recorded in 37 minutes.
 

1901 - There was a rain of fish from the sky at Tiller's Ferry. Hundreds of fish were swimming between cotton rows after a heavy shower. (David Ludlum)

1915 - The temperature at Fort Yukon AK soared to 100 degrees to establish a state record. (The Weather Channel)

 

1923" Boston, Massachusetts recorded its lowest pressure 29.26 inches of mercury for the month of June. (Ref. NOAA Boston Weather Events)

1957 - Hurricane Audrey smashed ashore at Cameron, LA, drowning 390 persons in the storm tide, and causing 150 million dollars damage in Texas, Louisiana and Mississippi. Audrey left only a brick courthouse and a cement-block icehouse standing at Cameron, and when the waters settled in the town of Crede, only four buildings remained. The powerful winds of Audrey tossed a fishing boat weighing 78 tons onto an off-shore drilling platform. Winds along the coast gusted to 105 mph, and oil rigs off the Louisiana coast reported wind gusts to 180 mph. A storm surge greater than twelve feet inundated the Louisiana coast as much as 25 miles inland. It was the deadliest June hurricane of record for the U.S. (David Ludlum) (The Weather Channel)

1978: Worst thunderstorm in 20 years wind gust greater than 70 mph in the Washington, DC. with over 1000 trees down in DC. and 100,000 homes with no power. (The Washington Post)

1987 - Thunderstorms moving out of Nebraska produced severe weather in north central Kansas after midnight. Thunderstorm winds gusting to 100 mph damaged more than fifty camping trailers at the state park campground at Lake Waconda injuring sixteen persons. Thunderstorm winds gusted to 80 mph at Beloit and Sylvan Grove. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data)

1988 - The afternoon high of 107 degrees at Bismarck, ND, was a record for the month of June, and Pensacola, FL, equalled their June record with a reading of 101 degrees. Temperatures in the Great Lakes Region and the Ohio Valley dipped into the 40s. (The National Weather Summary)

1989 - Thunderstorms produced severe weather from the Ohio Valley to western New England. Thunderstorm spawned six tornadoes, and there were 98 reports of large hail and damaging winds. Tropical Storm Allison spawned six tornadoes in Louisiana, injuring two persons at Hackberry. Fort Polk LA was drenched with 10.09 inches of rain in 36 hours, and 12.87 inches was reported at the Gorum Fire Tower in northern Louisiana. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data)

 

 

1992: A severe thunderstorm dropped hail to golf ball size near the top of WA’s Sherman Pass; accumulations to 8 inches. 2 motorcyclists were injured in separate accidents due to the hail-clogged highway. Several cars slid into ditches. (Ref. Weather Guide Calendar with Phenomenal Weather Events 2011 Accord Pub. 2010, USA)

1994: Waste Isolation. Pilot Plant, New Mexico: High temperatures in the Southwest as New Mexico sets its hottest temperature ever: 122°F the state record.All-time record temperatures for the state tied at Tipton, Oklahoma: 120°F.
 

1995: The Madison County Flood on June 27, 1995, was the worst flash floods Virginia had seen since the remnants of Camille dropped up to 30 inches of rain one night in Nelson County in August 1969. The Nelson County flood ranked as one of the nation's worst flash floods of this century and resulted in the deaths of 117 people. The Madison County flood killed one person.

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8 hours ago, Wxoutlooksblog said:

My 5th floor apartment in Douglaston facing west with open sky got so hot with the westward facing wall of the building and now an easterly wind I am running my a/c full blast to try to fully get the heat out. I ran it all night last night and probably will need to run it over night another night to finally get it comfortably cool. Then it warms up with plenty of humidity on Saturday. Unless we sneak a 90 in on Saturday, Sunday, Monday or Tuesday (and it's unlikely since winds will be out of the s-sw) I do not think we see another 90+ day in NYC until the second or more likely the third week of July.

WX/PT

Even central park on Monday  may make a run at 90, 850 MB temps spiking to >18c , looks p cloudy.

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9 minutes ago, SACRUS said:

 

6/26 Highs

 

PHL: 92
ACY: 90
EWR: 86
NYC: 85
JFK: 85
ISP: 84
TEB: 84
New Brnswck: 84
LGA: 83
TTN: 83 
BLM: 79

Are almost all of these fake midnight highs?

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2 minutes ago, Brian5671 said:

models are fairly wet over the next 10 days too...daily T-storm chances it appears

The lack of storms this year around here has been the biggest surprise. It seems like heat waves always used to end with a widespread severe event or at least some decent storms 

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