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Discussion-OBS slippery plowable moderate to high impact snowstorm with many delays near I95 and inland btwn 10AM Sun 1/19-4AM Mon Jan 20. R/S line uncertain near and east of I95 - parts of LI may be limited snowfall of around 1"?


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And if this is real, that would be a major bust since we've only had a dusting so far...

URGENT - WINTER WEATHER MESSAGE
National Weather Service Mount Holly NJ
331 PM EST Sun Jan 19 2025

Middlesex-Western Monmouth-Eastern Monmouth-Ocean-Southeastern
Burlington-
Including the cities of Freehold, Wharton State Forest, Sandy
Hook, New Brunswick, and Jackson
331 PM EST Sun Jan 19 2025

...WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 1 AM EST MONDAY...

* WHAT...Snow. Additional snow accumulations between 1 and 3 inches.

 

Something weird going on as my point and click still says 2-4" during the daytime and 1-3" at night (after 6 pm).


This AfternoonSnow. The snow could be heavy at times. High near 38. North wind around 10 mph. Chance of precipitation is 90%. Total daytime snow accumulation of 2 to 4 inches possible. TonightSnow, mainly before 11pm. The snow could be heavy at times. Low around 16. Northwest wind around 10 mph, with gusts as high as 25 mph. Chance of precipitation is 90%. New snow accumulation of 1 to 3 inches possible.

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2 minutes ago, winterwarlock said:

do you want to address a map they just put up which is bizarre

For the I-95 corridor, the forecast does remain on track with a 
wintry mix coming down. Temperatures remain just a tad above 
freezing at the moment, but have been steadily declining through the 
afternoon. Some heavier pockets of precip are just beginning to 
filter into the region from southwest to northeast. As the sun sets 
and our coastal low continues to strengthen, we are forecasting 
temperatures to fall over the next few hours to allow for a 
changeover to all snow late this afternoon and into the evening. 
Snowfall amounts in this area have decreased slightly, but largely 
remain on track with a general 3-6 inches by the time snow ends 
later tonight. 
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1 minute ago, RU848789 said:

And if this is real, that would be a major bust since we've only had a dusting so far...

URGENT - WINTER WEATHER MESSAGE
National Weather Service Mount Holly NJ
331 PM EST Sun Jan 19 2025

Middlesex-Western Monmouth-Eastern Monmouth-Ocean-Southeastern
Burlington-
Including the cities of Freehold, Wharton State Forest, Sandy
Hook, New Brunswick, and Jackson
331 PM EST Sun Jan 19 2025

...WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 1 AM EST MONDAY...

* WHAT...Snow. Additional snow accumulations between 1 and 3 inches.

but starters new brunswick should not be lumped in with those cities, its more like my area and mercer...and they still have my area getting 4-6

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1 minute ago, Allsnow said:
For the I-95 corridor, the forecast does remain on track with a 
wintry mix coming down. Temperatures remain just a tad above 
freezing at the moment, but have been steadily declining through the 
afternoon. Some heavier pockets of precip are just beginning to 
filter into the region from southwest to northeast. As the sun sets 
and our coastal low continues to strengthen, we are forecasting 
temperatures to fall over the next few hours to allow for a 
changeover to all snow late this afternoon and into the evening. 
Snowfall amounts in this area have decreased slightly, but largely 
remain on track with a general 3-6 inches by the time snow ends 
later tonight. 

um that doesnt address a ridiculous confusing map they put up..someone goofed big time there..the map starts at 7pm wtf is that

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2 minutes ago, MGorse said:

That goes by the next synoptic time which now is 00z/7PM. Here is the one that is the total from 1 PM. 
 

 

IMG_3693.jpeg

Thanks, Mike, but you guys have to fix this ASAP as the winter weather page shouldn't show that map and the advisory for Middlesex now says 1-3" of "additional" snow when we haven't gotten any yet.  1-3" of additional snow certainly doesn't get us to an event total of 4-6" in the graphic above or the original 3-5" WWA wording.  It's all very confusing and I still don't know what the forecast is.

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1 minute ago, RU848789 said:

Thanks, Mike, but you guys have to fix this ASAP as the winter weather page shouldn't show that map and the advisory for Middlesex now says 1-3" of "additional" snow when we haven't gotten any yet.  1-3" of additional snow certainly doesn't get us to an event total of 4-6" in the graphic above or the original 3-5" WWA wording.  It's all very confusing and I still don't know what the forecast is.

There is nothing to fix. Read the times on the map. The storm total is on our winter page with winter weather headlines posted. The “additional snow” is in the text products when the forecaster chooses to do that especially when how much snow fell so far in areas is unknown (I tend not to agree with this as the storm total should still be included). Also, always check your local Point and Click forecast for the most updated amounts. 

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6 minutes ago, winterwarlock said:

um nobody looks at things like that...certainly not the public..extremely confusing to put a map like that up...and considering the 4-6 looks to bust anyhow for hillsborough, trenton and philly..philly getting 4-6..wow

Send the feedback to my office. Bitching about it on here won’t do a damn thing! 

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39 minutes ago, donsutherland1 said:

Below is the PNS for the 2/13/2024 storm. For most of NYC (except for parts of the Bronx and Brooklyn), this storm will likely be somewhat larger.

934 
NOUS41 KOKX 132214
PNSOKX
CTZ005>012-NJZ002-004-006-103>108-NYZ067>075-078>081-176>179-141003-

Public Information Statement
National Weather Service New York NY
514 PM EST Tue Feb 13 2024

...SNOWFALL REPORTS...

Location                     Amount    Time/Date       Provider             

...Connecticut...

...Fairfield County...
2 SW Newtown                 13.8 in   0130 PM 02/13   Trained Spotter      
2 NNW Bethel                 13.2 in   1200 PM 02/13   Trained Spotter      
Bethel                       11.8 in   1130 AM 02/13   Emergency Mngr       
4 SSE Sherman                11.5 in   1215 PM 02/13   Trained Spotter      
4 NNE Bethel                 11.4 in   0130 PM 02/13   Trained Spotter      
Sandy Hook                   11.1 in   0100 PM 02/13   COCORAHS             
4 NNW New Fairfield          10.5 in   1053 AM 02/13   Trained Spotter      
Newtown                      10.2 in   0130 PM 02/13   Trained Spotter      
5 ENE Redding                9.7 in    1130 AM 02/13   Trained Spotter      
1 SE Wilton                  9.2 in    1110 AM 02/13   Public               
New Canaan                   9.2 in    0108 PM 02/13   Trained Spotter      
Shelton                      9.1 in    1259 PM 02/13   Trained Spotter      
3 WSW Shelton                8.4 in    1115 AM 02/13   Trained Spotter      
4 SSE Easton                 8.0 in    1100 AM 02/13   Public               
Bridgeport Airport           7.6 in    0100 PM 02/13   Official NWS Obs     
Weston                       7.4 in    1237 PM 02/13   Trained Spotter      
4 N Stamford                 7.0 in    0215 PM 02/13   Cocorahs             
3 SSE Greenwich              7.0 in    1117 AM 02/13   Public               
3 NNE Stamford               6.5 in    0130 PM 02/13   Trained Spotter      
Greenwich                    6.5 in    0120 PM 02/13   Public               
2 N Stamford                 6.2 in    1258 PM 02/13   Trained Spotter      
Norwalk                      6.0 in    1100 AM 02/13   Trained Spotter      
1 NNW Stamford               6.0 in    1115 AM 02/13   Trained Spotter      
1 SE Norwalk                 6.0 in    1130 AM 02/13   Trained Spotter      
1 NW Rowayton                6.0 in    0119 PM 02/13   Public               
Stamford                     5.5 in    1100 AM 02/13   Trained Spotter      

...Middlesex County...
Cromwell                     11.5 in   1135 AM 02/13   Trained Spotter      
Durham                       10.0 in   1230 PM 02/13   Amateur Radio        
Chester Center 2.7 WNW       7.5 in    1255 PM 02/13   COCORAHS             
1 NNW Killingworth           7.0 in    1230 PM 02/13   Amateur Radio        
1 E Westbrook                3.5 in    0350 PM 02/13   Trained Spotter      

...New Haven County...
Waterbury                    12.5 in   1237 PM 02/13   Public               
Middlebury                   11.0 in   0100 PM 02/13   Trained Spotter      
Wallingford                  10.0 in   1230 PM 02/13   Amateur Radio        
4 SSE Durham                 9.9 in    0245 PM 02/13   Public               
Hamden                       9.1 in    0130 PM 02/13   Trained Spotter      
1 N Woodmont                 9.0 in    1230 PM 02/13   Amateur Radio        
Milford                      9.0 in    1230 PM 02/13   Amateur Radio        
Madison                      8.6 in    1150 AM 02/13   Trained Spotter      
North Haven                  8.0 in    0210 PM 02/13   Trained Spotter      
New Haven                    8.0 in    1255 PM 02/13   Trained Spotter      
1 SSW East Haven             7.5 in    1230 PM 02/13   Amateur Radio        
1 WNW Beacon Falls           7.5 in    1230 PM 02/13   Amateur Radio        
Branford                     7.0 in    0127 PM 02/13   Public               
Branford                     6.4 in    0200 PM 02/13   Trained Spotter      
Guilford                     5.5 in    0400 PM 02/13   CO-OP Observer       
1 W Clinton                  5.0 in    0210 PM 02/13   Trained Spotter      

...New London County...
Norwich                      7.5 in    0220 PM 02/13   Trained Spotter      
2 SSE Ledyard Center         6.0 in    0200 PM 02/13   Trained Spotter      
1 NNE New London             6.0 in    0300 PM 02/13   Trained Spotter      
3 SSE Gales Ferry            5.0 in    0131 PM 02/13   Trained Spotter      
Griswold                     4.0 in    0130 PM 02/13   COCORAHS             
4 SW Voluntown               2.3 in    0100 PM 02/13   Public               

...New Jersey...

...Bergen County...
River Vale                   9.8 in    1257 PM 02/13   Trained Spotter      
Franklin Lakes               9.1 in    1138 AM 02/13   Public               
Waldwick                     9.0 in    0150 PM 02/13   Public               
1 ESE Westwood               8.3 in    1200 PM 02/13   Trained Spotter      
Bergenfield                  8.1 in    1235 PM 02/13   Trained Spotter      
Mahwah                       8.0 in    0125 PM 02/13   Public               
1 W Fair Lawn                7.0 in    0315 PM 02/13   Public               
Lyndhurst                    6.5 in    0110 PM 02/13   Trained Spotter      
1 NNE Rutherford             5.5 in    1230 PM 02/13   Public               

...Essex County...
Essex Fells                  9.5 in    1216 PM 02/13   Public               
1 SSW West Orange            8.0 in    1200 PM 02/13   Public               
2 NE Springfield             7.1 in    1210 PM 02/13   Public               
Livingston                   7.0 in    1110 AM 02/13   Public               
1 N Orange                   5.6 in    1134 AM 02/13   Broadcast Media      

...Hudson County...
Harrison                     5.5 in    1148 AM 02/13   CO-OP Observer       
2 NE East Newark             5.0 in    1245 PM 02/13   Trained Spotter      
1 SW Hoboken                 4.8 in    0115 PM 02/13   Cocorahs             
Hoboken                      3.9 in    1245 PM 02/13   Trained Spotter      

...Passaic County...
Clifton                      9.5 in    0217 PM 02/13   Trained Spotter      
1 NE West Milford            9.5 in    1155 AM 02/13   Trained Spotter      
Totowa                       8.5 in    0150 PM 02/13   Public               

...Union County...
New Providence               7.9 in    1226 PM 02/13   Trained Spotter      
Mountainside                 7.5 in    0107 PM 02/13   Public               
Cranford                     6.0 in    0130 PM 02/13   Trained Spotter      
Plainfield                   5.7 in    1200 PM 02/13   Public               
Rahway                       5.0 in    1135 AM 02/13   Trained Spotter      
Newark Airport               4.9 in    0100 PM 02/13   Official NWS Obs     
1 WSW Elizabeth              4.6 in    1208 PM 02/13   Trained Spotter      
Elizabeth                    4.6 in    0216 PM 02/13   Trained Spotter      
Linden                       4.0 in    1141 AM 02/13   Amateur Radio        

...New York...

...Bronx County...
1 NNE East Tremont           5.0 in    0228 PM 02/13   Public               
1 SSW Parkchester            4.6 in    1245 PM 02/13   Broadcast Media      

...Kings County...
Coney Island                 6.9 in    1132 AM 02/13   Public               
1 N Coney Island             6.1 in    1128 AM 02/13   Public               
Midwood                      3.0 in    0145 PM 02/13   Trained Spotter      

...Nassau County...
Locust Valley                8.7 in    0235 PM 02/13   Public               
1 ENE Glen Cove              8.1 in    1134 AM 02/13   Public               
Muttontown                   7.8 in    1234 PM 02/13   Cocorahs             
Syosset                      7.5 in    0124 PM 02/13   Trained Spotter      
Plainview                    7.4 in    0215 PM 02/13   Public               
Levittown                    6.0 in    1214 PM 02/13   Public               
East Williston               5.7 in    0100 PM 02/13   Public               
1 SE Plainview               5.5 in    0145 PM 02/13   Public               
1 SSW South Massapequa       5.3 in    1200 PM 02/13   Cocorahs             
East Meadow                  5.2 in    1213 PM 02/13   NWS Employee         
Hicksville                   5.0 in    0110 PM 02/13   Public               
Floral Park                  5.0 in    0234 PM 02/13   Public               
1 SE Bethpage                5.0 in    0245 PM 02/13   Public               
Carle Place                  5.0 in    1215 PM 02/13   Amateur Radio        
1 ESE Malverne               4.6 in    1150 AM 02/13   Cocorahs             

...New York (Manhattan) County...
1 WNW Fordham                6.1 in    1230 PM 02/13   Cocorahs             
Central Park                 3.2 in    0100 PM 02/13   Official NWS Obs     

...Orange County...
Warwick                      13.4 in   0123 PM 02/13   Trained Spotter      
1 WNW Monroe                 13.0 in   1130 AM 02/13   Trained Spotter      
Chester                      12.8 in   0126 PM 02/13   Cocorahs             
2 E Highland Mills           12.7 in   0130 PM 02/13                        
3 NNE Unionville             11.8 in   1109 AM 02/13   Trained Spotter      
Salisbury Mills              11.6 in   0100 PM 02/13   Trained Spotter      
Fort Montgomery              11.0 in   1145 AM 02/13   Trained Spotter      
1 ENE Goshen                 10.6 in   1130 AM 02/13   Public               
2 SSW Stewart Airport        10.4 in   1140 AM 02/13   Public               
2 SW Greenwood Lake          10.3 in   1116 AM 02/13   Public               
Cornwall On Hudson           10.2 in   0200 PM 02/13   COCORAHS             
West Point                   9.7 in    1135 AM 02/13   Trained Spotter      
1 SSE Gardnertown            9.1 in    1129 AM 02/13   Public               

...Putnam County...
1 N Fahnestock State Park    12.1 in   1150 AM 02/13   Public               
3 WNW Fahnestock State Park  11.8 in   1200 PM 02/13   Public               
Mahopac                      11.3 in   1258 PM 02/13   Amateur Radio        

...Queens County...
Howard Beach                 5.7 in    0233 PM 02/13   Trained Spotter      
1 W Whitestone               5.2 in    0130 PM 02/13   Public               
1 SW Russell Gardens         5.0 in    0345 PM 02/13   Trained Spotter      
Kennedy Airport              4.2 in    0100 PM 02/13   Official NWS Obs     
1 S Elmhurst                 3.3 in    1240 PM 02/13   Trained Spotter      
NYC/La Guardia               3.3 in    0100 PM 02/13   Official NWS Obs     

...Richmond County...
Westerleigh                  3.3 in    0145 PM 02/13   Public               

...Rockland County...
1 NW Stony Point             10.5 in   1200 PM 02/13   Cocorahs             
Nanuet                       10.3 in   1200 PM 02/13   Public               
1 SE New City                9.7 in    1255 PM 02/13   Public               
1 ENE Viola                  8.1 in    1130 AM 02/13   Public               

...Suffolk County...
Commack                      8.0 in    0300 PM 02/13   Public               
1 E Commack                  7.0 in    0140 PM 02/13   Broadcast Media      
1 WSW Smithtown              7.0 in    0224 PM 02/13   Public               
Stony Brook                  7.0 in    1230 PM 02/13   NWS Employee         
Huntington                   6.6 in    0108 PM 02/13   Public               
2 NNW Ridge                  6.5 in    0255 PM 02/13   Trained Spotter      
2 N Coram                    6.1 in    1115 AM 02/13   Public               
Smithtown                    6.1 in    1254 PM 02/13   Public               
1 SSW Miller Place           6.0 in    0200 PM 02/13   Public               
Centereach                   6.0 in    0315 PM 02/13   Official NWS Obs     
Upton                        5.5 in    0100 PM 02/13   Official NWS Obs     
1 NNE North Babylon          5.5 in    0145 PM 02/13   Public               
1 NNE Greenlawn              5.5 in    1200 PM 02/13   Public               
Hampton Bays                 5.0 in    0330 PM 02/13   Emergency Mngr       
1 NE Hauppauge               5.0 in    1100 AM 02/13   Public               
Mount Sinai                  5.0 in    1121 AM 02/13   Public               
1 NNW Coram                  5.0 in    1242 PM 02/13   Public               
Brookhaven National Laborato 5.0 in    0100 PM 02/13   Official NWS Obs     
Islip Airport                4.3 in    0205 PM 02/13   Official NWS Obs     
Calverton                    4.0 in    1240 PM 02/13   Public               
Riverhead                    4.0 in    0200 PM 02/13   Public               
3 WNW Aquebogue              3.7 in    0300 PM 02/13   Cocorahs             
1 W Jamesport                3.6 in    0252 PM 02/13   Public               
Mastic                       3.5 in    1140 AM 02/13   Public               
Bay Shore                    3.3 in    0201 PM 02/13   NWS Employee         
Sayville                     2.8 in    0132 PM 02/13   Cocorahs             

...Westchester County...
1 NNE Peekskill              13.1 in   0133 PM 02/13   Public               
Peekskill                    10.8 in   0109 PM 02/13   Trained Spotter      
Yorktown Heights             10.0 in   1230 PM 02/13   Public               
Montrose                     9.8 in    1230 PM 02/13   Trained Spotter      
North Castle                 9.5 in    1137 AM 02/13   Public               
2 S Mahopac                  9.5 in    1215 PM 02/13   Trained Spotter      
Croton-on-Hudson             9.0 in    0100 PM 02/13   Public               
2 N Mamaroneck               8.2 in    0345 PM 02/13   Public                     
2 NW Woodlawn                8.0 in    0130 PM 02/13   Public               
2 NNE Briarcliff Manor       8.0 in    1243 PM 02/13   Public               
1 ESE Hartsdale              7.2 in    1230 PM 02/13   Trained Spotter      
White Plains                 7.0 in    1230 PM 02/13   Trained Spotter      
&&

Thanks Don, do you have the one for February 17th too?

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