Discussion-OBS slippery plowable moderate to high impact snowstorm with many delays near I95 and inland btwn 10AM Sun 1/19-4AM Mon Jan 20. R/S line uncertain near and east of I95 - parts of LI may be limited snowfall of around 1"?

[LibertyBell]

1 minute ago, etudiant said:

I stand corrected, there is some snow in Manhattan now.

I'g guess a quarter inch of wet slop on the ground, maybe building up to as much as an inch if the radar holds.

Still not close to the 3-6" hoped for, but we'll be happy with what we got.

might be sleet here, whatever it is is making a loud gravelly kind of sound on my windows.

the Park and airports can get to 3 inches but not more than that.

[wdrag]

17 minutes ago, MGorse said:

You can all you want. I am here to try and clarify. Bitching here won’t get your feedback to where it needs to be. 

In a little defense of the NWS... they work within the mapping constraints that are set by NWS region-nationally.  

The forecast team answers your ph calls, including reports, they keep the forecasts updated as much as they can and then its out of their hands when all the updates transmit.  They keep the emergency managers updated including government officials. 

Its sundown now and temps generally below freezing NJT westward into PA with wintry precip, mostly snow and some of that at rapid rates. If you go out in the next few hours and slide off the road or slip on the sidewalk, they did all they could to advise you. Forecasts are imperfect and sometimes forecasts are less than desired but I suggest ride this one out through 8PM. 

[Allsnow]

The snow by phl will work itself up here 

 

Game is a snow globe currently 

[weatherpruf]

1 minute ago, MANDA said:

For the most part I think this forecast is going to work out fine.  Some spots will be on low end of range and some spots close to high end.

Question if anyone sees 8" based on radar though.

My 4-6" forecast is going to work out fine for Morris county.  I am currently just a a little over 4.  Expect to finish near 6, maybe a bit more.

That swath of I95 just isn't performing right now though. Now some people said 7 pm here so we'll see. These kinds of events were typical of my childhood. Always was more north and west. I didn't care as long as I got the day off, which in Catholic schools didn't take much. We'd be closed and I'd watch the poor public schoolers trudging off in boots to a delayed opening. i didn't know yet they were having more fun in school.....

[Rjay]

Ripping at the Eagles game

[allgame830]

4 minutes ago, cleetussnow said:

I’ve got graupel for the last hr here.  Snow growth sucks still. 

Since we live in same town… I am leaving work now and it’s really coming down now. Main streets are covered 

[kat5hurricane]

Snowing hard in Philly, I suppose this is a good sign for us.

[jm1220]

Looking at DE and E MD that’s probably our chance to really accumulate east of the city when that pivots in. We need that to last a couple hours at least. 

[Allsnow]

1 minute ago, jm1220 said:

Looking at DE and E MD that’s probably our chance to really accumulate east of the city when that pivots in. We need that to last a couple hours at least. 

Phl is ripping which is a good sign for us 

[hooralph]

Escalated quickly here on the UWS. All cross streets snow covered, even Riverside Drive (the main road). Not having trouble sticking now

[weatherpruf]

2 minutes ago, Allsnow said:

Phl is ripping which is a good sign for us 

Indeed

[the_other_guy]

Alright…shit got real in Westchester over last hour. inch down real quick

[BxEngine]

Legit heavy snow now, vis under 1200’ for sure. 

[MANDA]

[donsutherland1]

14 minutes ago, weatherpruf said:

I'll be pleasantly surprised to see 4. NW has already got that. It's cold enough here, we just aren't getting banding. Not sure if it is getting here or not. In a way I'm glad as my wife is at the hospital visiting her sister who had a stroke. It's been tough.

I'm sorry to hear of your sister-in-law's stroke. I wish her a full recovery.

[the_other_guy]

Yeh heavy snow Mid Westchester too.

all roads covered with 1/2 mile vis at most

[LibertyBell]

10 minutes ago, Rjay said:

Ripping at the Eagles game

Here's what I found out about why snow doesn't accumulate near the lines and numbers on the football field

 

https://www.quora.com/How-do-the-lines-on-the-football-field-stay-snow-free

 

Keeping the lines on a football field snow-free typically involves a combination of techniques and equipment. Here are some common methods:

1. Field Heating Systems: Many professional and college football fields are equipped with heating systems beneath the turf. These systems can warm the ground and help prevent snow from accumulating on the field.
2. Snow Removal Equipment: Grounds crews often use specialized snow removal equipment, such as snow plows or blowers, to clear the lines and the field quickly after a snowfall.
3. Field Paint: The paint used for marking lines can be formulated to resist snow accumulation and can also be more visible against a snowy background.
4. Maintaining Turf Conditions: Ensuring that the turf is in good condition can help with drainage and reduce snow accumulation. Proper maintenance practices can keep the grass healthy and more resistant to snow.
5. Regular Monitoring: Grounds crews monitor weather conditions closely and may take preemptive actions, such as applying salt or sand, to prevent snow from sticking to the lines.

These methods help ensure that the lines remain visible and the field is playable, even during winter weather conditions.

[MANDA]

1 minute ago, donsutherland1 said:

I'm sorry to hear of your sister-in-law's stroke. I wish her a full recovery.

@weatherpruf Same.

[wdrag]

7 minutes ago, jm1220 said:

Looking at DE and E MD that’s probably our chance to really accumulate east of the city when that pivots in. We need that to last a couple hours at least. 

Have some confidence.  N shore of LI will do well... might see some 4 and 5s...not done there til at least 1A. 

[weatherpruf]

1 minute ago, donsutherland1 said:

I'm sorry to hear of your sister-in-law's stroke. I wish her a full recovery.

Thanks Don, she is coming along. Was a congenital thing. Can happen to anyone. 

[Snowlover11]

Snowing like hell currently.

[Rjay]

1 minute ago, donsutherland1 said:

I'm sorry to hear of your sister-in-law's stroke. I wish her a full recovery.

Best wishes Weatherpruf

[donsutherland1]

Just now, weatherpruf said:

Thanks Don, she is coming along. Was a congenital thing. Can happen to anyone. 

I'm happy to learn she's making a recovery. Let's hope all goes well and that she can go home, soon.

[LibertyBell]

Just now, weatherpruf said:

Thanks Don, she is coming along. Was a congenital thing. Can happen to anyone. 

I hope she gets better quickly, best wishes my friend.

[Allsnow]

Huge flakes currently 

[cleetussnow]

13 minutes ago, allgame830 said:

Since we live in same town… I am leaving work now and it’s really coming down now. Main streets are covered 

It flipped about when I hit the button on this post.  Snow now.

[dmillz25]

Ripping here flakes are huge

[MANDA]

4 minutes ago, wdrag said:

Have some confidence.  N shore of LI will do well... might see some 4 and 5s...not done there til at least 1A. 

Yes.  Just be a little patient.   Friend down in Mt. Laurel is really sweating it out.  Just a coating down there so far.  He is in a far more perilous situation of getting ripped off.  By ripped off I mean <2".

[weatherpruf]

2 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

Here's what I found out about why snow doesn't accumulate near the lines and numbers on the football field

 

https://www.quora.com/How-do-the-lines-on-the-football-field-stay-snow-free

 

Keeping the lines on a football field snow-free typically involves a combination of techniques and equipment. Here are some common methods:

1. Field Heating Systems: Many professional and college football fields are equipped with heating systems beneath the turf. These systems can warm the ground and help prevent snow from accumulating on the field.
2. Snow Removal Equipment: Grounds crews often use specialized snow removal equipment, such as snow plows or blowers, to clear the lines and the field quickly after a snowfall.
3. Field Paint: The paint used for marking lines can be formulated to resist snow accumulation and can also be more visible against a snowy background.
4. Maintaining Turf Conditions: Ensuring that the turf is in good condition can help with drainage and reduce snow accumulation. Proper maintenance practices can keep the grass healthy and more resistant to snow.
5. Regular Monitoring: Grounds crews monitor weather conditions closely and may take preemptive actions, such as applying salt or sand, to prevent snow from sticking to the lines.

These methods help ensure that the lines remain visible and the field is playable, even during winter weather conditions.

In the famous WC qualifier in CO in 2012, they shoveled the field ( which was a football field IIRC ) off during half time and switched to an orange soccer ball; the US beat Costa Rica who later protested they shouldn't have had to play in the snow. But they were offered a chance to stop the game and because they were only down by 1 goal, they thought they could get one back and tie or win. They got pissy when they went on to lose.

[etudiant]

Wherever it is, it is not here in Manhattan.

We're getting very light snow, maybe at an inch every 3 hours rate. Temperatures are around freezing, so stuff melts or sticks, depending on where it lands.

We're nowhere close to any 3" forecast.

No dings on the weather service, their maps told the tale, it is more a reproach to all the people who tried to make this into something it was not.